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  1. I love the Hallmark car ornaments. I believe I had a complete collection of both the cars and trucks but I think some of the trucks got lost or destroyed over the years. I actually had to dial it back a bit because it was getting to the point that the tree was ALL cars. I have a friend who does have an all-car tree, if I only had more space I would do just that. 

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  2. 44 minutes ago, auburnseeker said:

    And boy do I have the kit to set you up.  Best of both worlds,  stamps with little cars on them.  Still sealed even so it's NOS.  Doesn't get any better. ;) 

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    I have one of them, it's a great start. I collect stamps. Not as much as some of my other hobbies, but I do enjoy it. Some stamps can be really expensive, but most aren't. It truly is a hobby anyone could partake in, no matter what their financial or physical limits. 

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  3. 21 hours ago, Harold said:

    I've had the same percentage of losers no matter what website I use. When I list on CL, I have the following statement in every ad:  "Send phone number and I'll call you.  I won't reply by email."   The serious buyers send a phone number, if no number the reply gets trashed.  No exceptions.

     

    Most of what I sell ends-up going via eBay.   Maybe 15% is through other venues, including make-specific forums (grass-roots target marketing!) The $5.00 thing really turned me off to CL for listing cars.  I was skeptical about using Facebook but listed a car there anyway and it sold in a few days.  I list non-vehicles wherever I can, as long as it's free (yes, many older folks are cheapskates). 

    I'm not a telephone person. Hate, hate hate talking on the phone. I'd rather write a letter and wait for the postal system than call someone. If I was in position to buy something from you you would have lost the sale. I am not going to jump through hoops to buy something, I'll just move on. Also, I'm usually awake in the middle of the night. Very few people want a 4 am phone call. 

     

    Now, I'm not in that position, but who knows how many people are like me? 

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  4. 9 hours ago, wayne sheldon said:

    Personally, I hate facebook. (Actually, I hate using the word "hate", but for facebook, I really can't think of a better word for how I feel about them?). I have from their beginning, it has gotten worse with each passing year, and I don't think I will change.

     

    The biggest problem with facebook anything, is that the people that run the thing are clueless virtual reality and gamer inhabitants that do not understand that there is a world outside their part of the internet. I cannot connect to facebook because their programming is so bad, their "dancing googaws" and popup "you gotta like this" garbage can't get through the "not quite a DSL" internet connection I am limited to. The fact IS, that there are tens of millions of people in this country that CANNOT reasonably connect to facebook. And that means YOUR ad. To make this worse. The far and away vast majority of people that follow facebook also tend to be more interested in virtual reality than in turning a wrench or actually driving a car (any car!). There are a lot of people in this country interested in antique and classic automobiles that do not live in the center of the major urban areas. And for good reason. We don't like to drive so much in an urban setting. The building and storage costs are much higher in urban areas. A lot of us do have good high speed internet access. But a lot of us do not. 

    While I do think facebook should be utilized as club informational point of entry, I do not think it should be the primary point. Websites open to anywhere there is an internet connection should be first and foremost. That goes for club websites, and I think also sound advice for advertising.

     

    This is not accurate at all. Facebook has zero popup ads. They do have sidebar ads but so does this very website, they aren't intrusive. The virtual reality comments I have no idea what spurred on but I've been on there every day since 2008 have no idea what you're talking about.

     

    Not saying Facebook is great. Or that I particularly enjoy it...it used to be fun but it's mostly devolved into political whining. The groups are usually fun but can get frustrating at times. 

     

    Like everything in life lately it can be a lot of people trying to shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them...but that's not the platform's fault as it is the users. 

     

    Any thoughts of leaving it behind are quickly quashed due to the fact that it's my only real contact with many family and friends. 

     

    Don't ever try Twitter...that's a true cesspool. I maintain an account because it's the place to find up to the minute sports news, and where the athletes and sports lesgues themselves post...but it's not fun wading through the garbage to find the nuggets of good. Most of the hobby accounts on there in every hobby is just people trying to sell stuff...the actual collectors posting about their collection are there but it takes some effort to find them.

  5. 2 hours ago, TerryB said:

    Billy K-  Go for it my friend, whatever car you like and can afford and as old or new as fits your liking.  There is no bad/wrong choice as long as you like it.  Don’t mind the naysayers.  I’m like you in that I cannot drive with the exception that I could for many years and in the process was able to buy what I liked.  Now I have the memories of those days and I hope you can too in your lifetime.  I had several 1970s cars and trucks back when they were new.  Some were good, others, well they would not be at the top of my wish list to own again.  My 1973 Chevelle SS is one that sure heads up the list of less than desirable from the issues I had with it (rust).  Still, if I saw one at a show I’d definitely stop and take a look.  Hope you get to fulfill your dream!

     

    1 hour ago, 1912Staver said:

    Billy , I like lots of old cars but I consider the 1973 - 1977 El Camino's to be overlooked gems. Very handy for Swap Meets, parts pick up and lighter duty towing. Reasonable in price to buy and operate. What more could a thrifty old car guy want ?

    Just as useful as a 1968 - 1972 at a fraction of the price. I have tempted to buy one a few times but still have a 1966 Mercury { Canadian  market} 1/2 ton I bought 30 years or so ago for $175.00. It's pretty primitive and many times I have thought a El Camino 

    would be better in an all round role although I would give up a bit of towing capacity.

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    I hope to make that dream come true in 2020 or 2021 at the latest. I have the opportunity to do something else I've always wanted to do in 2020 and plan to take that opportunity when I can...unfortunately its's almost entirely a spending event. Then it's saving for the car time!

     

    One thing I neglected to mention in my previous post, if I ever do build a hot rod, it will almost surely be built using one of the reproduction 30s Ford bodies. I'm pretty sure you can build an entire car via the aftermarket. I would not feel any twinge of guilt starting from a fresh canvas.  

  6. On 7/11/2017 at 9:33 PM, LINC400 said:

     

    Older members calling 1970's and later cars "used junk" does not endear them to younger members. I have seen it countless times on this forum, and also heard it many times in person. Not everyone shares your opinion. I may or may not be interested in your prewar car, but at least I don't call it old junk.

     

     

    THIS! This is the #1 problem. 

     

    I've been into cars my entire life...I literally cannot remember a time before I was obsessed with cars. I have photographic evidence that I was already obsessed by the time I turned 2 years old...which was October 1986. I used to be one of those people who only cared about pre-1972 cars. Then, the post-1972 cars I grew up with disappeared. Cars I used to view as basically nothing, now when I see one rarely, took me back to when I was young. When I was not beset by numerous health problems, when my family was still alive and healthy. Nostalgia is the driving factor in this hobby, and most hobbies. People my age grew up with 70s, 80s and early 90s cars, that's what our nostalgia brings us to. 

     

    Yet, tell someone you are a fan of these cars, and you get flack. I once commented on the AACA Facebook page that I hoped to own a 1973-77 El Camino some day, and I was beset with several insults...so much so that I didn't even look at that forum for over a year. I eventually only went back when I decided I was missing out on too many car photos, so I decided to just block anyone who was an idiot towards me. And God forbid you are a fan of anything post 2000...I am...you will surely hear crap like "they all look alike". No, they do NOT all look alike, you just don't care to learn what they are. 

     

    My health problems manifested when I was in the 6th grade. By then I had already built a collection of diecast cars that would eventually grow to be larger than the one listed in the Guinness Book of World Records...I stopped counting at 10,000. So, what do I see on a GTO forum but a post where somebody was proud of his collection of scale GTOs, but multiple people attacking him, with one comment in particular standing out to me: "if you hadn't wasted that much money on toys, you could have had a real GTO". We never found out of the guy did have a GTO or any other classic car, because I believe he left the group...I don't blame him. 30+ comments attacking and belittling him would do that to anybody. 

     

    Unfortunately my health problems prevent me from driving. (I can't see well enough) Yet, I've dreamed of owning a classic car my entire life. Somewhere around here I probably still have the handwritten list of the cars I was going to own someday, that I wrote in 7th grade. I have not been able to make that happen, with any of them, due to the health problems I mention. 

     

    I have to be honest, I have not joined the AACA yet. I didn't even visit the website, because of the negative reaction I've seen, and had directed towards me. I decided that I needed to gain more information, so I visited the website a few months back...saw there was a forum and joined up. The pre-war bias was apparent immediately, but, that didn't drive me off...that's where I have the least amount of knowledge so I'm taking it as an opportunity to learn. Perhaps, if I hadn't seen so much bad behavior towards other car enthusiasts, I might have joined up sooner and seen this post when it went around 2 years ago. (I do plan to join in 2020)

     

    I have a 1994 Jeep, that was my mom's daily driver from 2003-2015 when it died. I tried so hard to keep it going because Rhinebeck has a 25 year limit and it would have been eligible this year. I could have taken part in a car show for the first time in my life, a true dream to me. I didn't even go to the show this year, due to the fact that it was pouring rain, and I couldn't do the walking involved after going to a model car show the day before and touring a bit of Long Island on foot. I know...know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I would have been insulted for entering my 1994 Jeep. And I don't care. Because I love all old cars, and new cars, too. 

     

    I do not understand the vitriol espoused towards newer cars on this forum...Yes, I understand that it's a focus group for old cars. But the new cars are going to be old in a matter of time. Why would you not want to learn about them, and experience them, when they are common? I just can't grasp that...it's how I used to feel, and now, that I'm a better "car guy" then I was then, I don't know what I was thinking. I also grew up mostly as a hot rod guy. I know the exact moment I became a factory stock guy. It was at the Goodguys show in 2005 or 2006. I was walking the show field, and saw a Terraplane that had some rather unpleasant things done to it. It was right then, right there on the field- I even remember where it was parked!- that my allegiance switched from hot rod to factory stock. (I still attend hot rod shows, and I still won't rule out owning one someday...I wouldn't do it myself, but if somebody else had already, then maybe, but it would have to be something really special and not too far changed- IE, no chops, no trim removal)

     

    I don't know if I will ever be able to own an old car. I cannot drive it, but my brother has said he would. My mom has finally warmed up to the idea. For the entire time, even the brief time I could drive, whenever I talked about getting an old car, she always said that "you don't need an old car", and that's something that has caused some hard feelings on my part...and it's odd because my mom is who got me into cars, and who has taken me to car shows since I was in a stroller. And not just local shows- we've driven cross-country to visit the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg Museum, and the Studebaker National Museum. 

     

    I recently started a thread discussing my desire to own a classic car- lower case c- and people couldn't wait to start being "holier-than-thou" with their made up classifications. That is a big turn-off, for most people it might have driven them away. I'm tougher to get rid of than that. 

     

    The sad thing is that the cars I want are available for under $10,000. I sure would love to get something from the WWI era, but I know that's not realistic. I got to go for a ride in a Model T this past May, for the first time, and now something that seemed totally unknown to me is on my list of cars I want to own someday. I lost out on a 76 El Camino and a 58 Edsel for $6000 and $8000 respectively earlier this year, and a 1950 Pontiac for $5000 at Rhinebeck in 2014 still haunts me. (my top 3 most wanted) Due to the medicine that keeps me alive, I couldn't afford them. Saving for something isn't really feasible- most goes to medicine or food, the rest I tend to spend on one of my many hobbies. (and that includes hotels for the larger car shows) To get a car would mean giving up my other three hobbies totally for a year or two. I have not been able to do that. Also, I have already come literally 5 minutes away from dying...if I miscalculate on my medicine, I won't see tomorrow. So I tend to be of the mindset that saving for the future is a fool's errand when I possibly don't have much of a future. (Although I intend to- I'm in much better health, even though still bad, then I was in 2013!) 

     

    Back when I was in 9th grade, when I thought  I would be able to drive and my dad, who was a lifelong mechanic, was still alive, I began to look for a car. I remember my parents telling me that I needed to do the calling, and I remember calling a number based in Peekskill about a 1977 El Camino that was in the newspaper. They said the car had been sold already, but I've always wondered if they just wouldn't sell it to me due to my obvious young age. My life would have been so much better if I had gotten that El Camino then. The age bias in the hobby is very real. And I will always wonder if it bit me then.

     

    Another topic, that perhaps fits in this, is that when I go to car shows, which I do often, most of the time the owners don't really speak to me all that much. Even when it's a weekly show and they see me there every week...when I am by myself people are more likely to talk. When my brother is there with me, hardly anyone. Since I started my Facebook automotive photography page in 2017, I've had a lot more conversations, usually from people who have commented on my photography. 

     

    One of the happiest moments of my automotive photography career came earlier in 2019. I shot a car show at a retirement home, and one of the car owners, a young lady about my age, made my photo of her 1990 Camaro her cover photo on Facebook, and thanked me for shooting her car. That was, in turn, the first time someone had thanked me for getting their car, and it made my day. Would a 1990 Camaro be welcomed, and celebrated, on here? I doubt the answer is yes. 

     

    My life feels incomplete, and I know what's missing...it's an old car. And that feeling has been ever-present since I was in my early 20s. Sure, I want it to be one of the three I mentioned that I missed out. But I could be very happy with any 1950s car. (My favorite decade of cars) I want to go to car shows. I want to sit in a folding chair, and chat about it with anyone that wants to talk about it. I love the car show atmosphere, the sights, sounds (both of engines and the music) and the smells, of cars and fair food. I don't even have to drive them. Just being able to look at them whenever I wanted would be enough for me. My own personal car show, I could be so happy.

    Currently, after I see everything about a show, I leave...sometimes I sit and wait hoping another car will show up. I've even been known to sit in the grass at shows because I've exhausted my stamina and can't get back to the parking lot just yet. I try and photograph every car at every show, whether it fits my style or not. Classic or modern, American or not. I try and get them all. I'm not always able to, unfortunately. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, Dandy Dave said:

    You did not say anything about trucks. I already have my dream truck and it was a Christmas present from several years ago. It had everything I wanted in an Antique Truck. Solid rubber tires with wooden spoked wheels, a C cab. A brass radiator. An early lost oil system. Hand start and Magneto ignition so no battery to worry about. Gate shift transmission. A very simplistic and utilitarian design.  It's rusty as all get out but runs like a clock. It is a 1925 White Model 15- 3/4 ton. Like my friend Mike say's, It draws folks like flies to cow dung at a show. Dandy Dave!  

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    Is this the truck that was at Rhinebeck two or three years ago? If so, and you were the owner then, I thank you for taking a few moments out of your day to educate me about it. 

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  8. Look up Radwood. It's an all 80s and 90s car show...also encourages people to dress in period style. 

     

    They get hundreds to thousands of cars at each show. Hope to get to one of them myself soon. There was one localish (New Jersey Motorsports Park, not really local but close enough to be in my range)to me last year but I didn't know about it until it was done and I saw pictures on Facebook. 

     

    Those of us born in the 80s have a lot of nostalgia for the things we grew up with and are now mostly disappeared. I imagine it's the same for everyone. 

  9. I used to consider myself a Chevrolet guy, but not anymore. I love pretty much all of them from every brand. That includes Chevrolet and all the rest. Currently have one Chevrolet, one Ford and one non running Jeep in the family. Although not cognizant of it when getting the Ford last year, one of them is red, one white and one blue. When I realized it though I had to get a photo of them together, but I digress. 

     

    I'm known to most people as El Camino Billy and my favorite brand is Edsel. I tend to gravitate towards the unusual and obscure, the less common it is the more I like it. I'm obsessed with Crosleys and cyclecars. I prefer 4-doors and I've thought wagons were cool long before most people did. 

     

    I guess I'm unquantifiable. 

     

    I am building a reputation as an automotive photographer. Perhaps I can be known as a car photo guy.

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