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    Lets talk about 348 409 stuff-1958 to 1965

    in Chevrolet & GMC - General

    Posted · Edited by Robert Street (see edit history)

    8 hours ago, countrytravler said:

    12-28-07 04:05 AM - Post#1328615     

    9 year old thread. Sound like a rare car.

     

    http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/178113/

     

    Need some tech advice and/or someone who knows about early Chevy Station Wagons. 

    My buddy and I have recovered a mostly complete 62 Bel Air wagon 6 Pass. with the 409 2x4, original 4 spd car, less tranny, with a siren and a large set of radio transmitters in the rear of the car. I would like to hear some thoughts about this car and would like to find someone knowledgeable about these special cars. Car is mostly complete and will need a total restoration. Has what appears to be a factory mounted tach, (7K) on the column.

    Currently researching all of the numbers and seems to be a numbers correct car. I will post photo's soon as I am waiting for the paper work to finalize and will do so soon. 

    The car will need to be completely restored as it has been sitting since the late 60's.

    Contact information and thoughts would be appreciated.
    Mike 

     

    This car could be an original 409/409 car as the engine could have been installed as ordered.  The tach could have also come with it as ordered.  The under hood detail photos, tunnel detail photos and the firewall tag photos would help prove the case along with steering column detail photos.  I Believe the car was in a larger city fire service if it does check out.  Those radios would have been installed by Motorola or GE.

    Robert

    Lets talk about 348 409 stuff-1958 to 1965

    in Chevrolet & GMC - General

    Posted · Edited by Robert Street (see edit history)

    John the one interesting correct item was the old Daytona Marine Turbo motor.  Only have seen one other of them down in FLA.  They were the conversion of choice in the old original offshore racing days!  Wouldn't it be neat if that one was in Arronow's "Donzi Baby"!  Anyone have a cast set of marine valve covers and a cast oil pan from an old marine high performance conversion.

    Robert

    Red Top Optima Batteries 6 Volt??

    in Technical

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    Optima's have a specific charge voltage which is generally lower than lead acid and at a specific amp rate.  Driving a vehicle with them could be an issue depending on the voltage output of the generator.  Yes, they use a specific aux charger or an electronic smart charger that can be set for their application.  the old conventional wet or lead acid models can hurt them

    Robert

    Lets talk about 348 409 stuff-1958 to 1965

    in Chevrolet & GMC - General

    Posted

    John:

    Those 409 Fuel Injection units weren't a production item and as far as I know they only had about 6 of them up in the engineering area messing with the 63 cars.  They actually look like a throttle body system with a funky looking pump assembly over the water pump on a chain drive.  An acquaintance of mine down south has the only running complete unit on a car.  The story I always heard was the costs and that development was ongoing with the mystery motor killed it and we all know how that motor "snowballed down the hill".  There are photos of the completed running unit as my photos aren't that great of it.

    Robert

     

    1963 Chevy Impala hardtop 409/425 4-speed *SOLD*

    in Automobiles and Parts - Buy/Sell

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    I would enjoy carrying this discussion to another location also.  Yes, Tommy's dates and numbers are correct.  I have had the privilege of seeing the original 348 design blueprint drawings and 1961 Tonawanda casting summaries. Needless to say the blueprint drawing dates are interesting.  I have a 61 SS but it is certain to have been built very nicely by a dealer in the midwest area.  Also it isn't close to the quality of either of Tommy's two!!!

    Robert

    Problem With Tires

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Interesting reading experiences. Last year while towing down to the October south eastern nationals Goodguys event in Charlotte I suddenly felt what I thought was an uneven road surface as the tire monitoring system for the trailer tires showed normal pressures and normal temperatures and nothing had gone off with the truck TPS monitoring.  I finally stopped at a turn off ramp and looked and had a fist sized lump on a rear truck tire.  Got tire changed without unhooking trailer and then had to find a dealer that had the 20 inch tires that are on the F350. A big dealer that had my tires sizes looked at my truck closely and we found that one of the steer tires was starting to come apart in belt area.  I am very careful about pressures and monitoring temperatures also.  Tires were 4 years old and about 75 percent gone. Vulcanized?

    Robert

    '63 Pontiac Catalina 421 Super Duty tribute car

    in AACA - Class Judging

    Posted · Edited by Robert Street
    brain fade (see edit history)

    4 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said:

    Not in Class 24!  However, if it was factory built, sold on a certificate of origin and street legal in at least one state a case could be made that it would qualify for one of the high performance classes if it was accepted by the class judging committee. 

     

    Steve a minor note of interest.  The 50 or so rare 63 Z-11's were delivered to Chevy dealers with a certificate of origin but all were destined to premier racers of the day.  I am pretty certain none of those were street driven or titled.  So.... there are about 17 or so documented restored ones so just wonder what happens if one not lettered as delivered to a dealer shows up at a national show.  Another stellar entry for 36B.  I hope I am at that show!!  I'll try to get the 62 Pontiac SD to that show as it is now recognized with an AACA car number.

    Robert

     

    '63 Pontiac Catalina 421 Super Duty tribute car

    in AACA - Class Judging

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    The 62 SD that I showed in Virginia Beach last year is an excellently done fully restored vehicle that has no sanctioned race history although it certainly had some street race history down in Florida I am sure.  The car is legally tagged and insured in the state of Maryland. I drove it onto the show field admittedly with fouled plugs and the carbs not adjusted properly for the event. Maryland has some strict rules governing tagging or the ability to tag certain types of vehicles. The very simple conclusion, it is a limited production vehicle Pontiac sold and I believe they didn't have a warranty.  The owner of the car also had a Grand Prix SD which was also tagged and driven almost daily back in the day.  These cars were a limited production vehicle and I believe a large number of them were not professionally raced unlike the 50 or so famous 63 Chevy Z-11 vehicles that all had a racing history but were limited production but still had the ability to tag them.

    These cars should be in the appropriate class 36 structure.  I would enjoy having my 62 409 along side a 63 Z-11 at a national show.

    Robert Street

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