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    Earl car find in Australia.

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    A family friend restored this 1916 Briscoe in the late 1950s. I rode in it quite a few times as a child and I credit it with igniting my interest in early cars.

     

    The first photo I took in 1979. After the owner passed away it was sold to another part of the country and has since been re-restored.

     

     

    16 AQ5685 Briscoe in 1979 my photo.JPG

    16 Briscoe at Glenbrook.jpg

    Earl car find in Australia.

    in General Discussion

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    1 hour ago, hidden_hunter said:

    Can't have been that common here, the paper in South Australia even lists who bought them

     

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63439503?browse=ndp%3Abrowse%2Ftitle%2FM%2Ftitle%2F75%2F1923%2F08%2F18%2Fpage%2F5317423%2Farticle%2F63439503#

     

    Supposedly 26 MPG

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63859788?searchTerm=earl cars

     

    Someone's review of the Earl

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64307179?searchTerm=earl cars

     

    From quickly flicking through the articles, it very much looks like they were only ever popular in South Australia pretty much no mention of them in Victoria or NSW

    Maybe because the agent was operating only in that state?

    Earl car find in Australia.

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    11 hours ago, oldcarfudd said:

    The middle car in the first photo is a 1915 Briscoe.  The cyclops headlight is unique to that model year.  I don't know about the other cars,

    I took it as read - ie obvious - that the centre one was an early Briscoe. If you look at the link to the 2008 article I wrote you will see they look a lot like late series Briscoe.

     

     

    Earl car find in Australia.

    in General Discussion

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    The Earl car was essentially a continuation of the last Briscoe cars. There is a 1920 Briscoe not too far from me about which I wrote an article for Beaded Wheels magazine in 2008. The owner has since passed away and I believe the car is in the Oxford Museum, not too far from Rangiora where the owner lived.

     

    I am still on the magazine committee, having been there since 2002. A few others have been there longer though we do have some new blood as well.

     

    BW-292-Jun-2008_low.pdf (vcc.org.nz)

     

    More info here - 

     

    Better Built Earl Cars (secondchancegarage.com)

     

    An interesting ad in the form of a little story which appeared several times during August/September 1922 in several South Island NZ newspapers - Papers Past | Newspapers | Nelson Evening Mail | 9 September 1922 | Page 5 Advertisements Column 6 (natlib.govt.nz)

     

    The local Briscoe agent was Dexter and Croziers, better known for Cadillacs, and later for Austins, and post WW2 for various BMC stuff. In this first photo from circa 1920 I guess the two later cars are Briscoes. The photo is quite small and I have not yet found a larger version. I am not sure of the occasion in the second photo. There may or may not be a Briscoe or Earl among the cars.

     

    Dexter and Croziers became David Crozier Ltd, and still later became NZMC, and remained on that site at least into the 1980s though the old building was replaced before I remember.

     

     

    20 circa Croziers 177 Worcester St 31945424_10215315534937214_7912087206779420672_n.jpg

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    1910-1912 mystery touring car

    in What is it?

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    On 7/6/2023 at 4:58 AM, Ariejan NL said:

    That is the point. There are several triangles in car emblem history, but always pointing down, never up.

    Hi Ariejan, I know your specialty is the more obscure early European cars. By the way thanks for many of the ones you have done for Bozi, some of which I have sent him. I thought it uncharacteristic for you to struggle with an identification so I messaged Varun about it. He seems to have got that one very quickly. The US brass era stuff appears to be his forte.

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    ‘32 ? Studebaker ,Series , model info

    in Studebaker, Erskine & Rockne

    Posted

    The chassis number should be on a plate on the left side of the frame behind the front wheel.

     

    Three eight cylinder series:-

     

    Dictator Series 62 - 117" wheelbase - serial numbers begin with a 9

     

    Commander Series 71 - 125" wheelbase - serial numbers begin with 8

     

    President Series 91 -135" wheelbase - serial numbers begin with 6

     

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    The 1931 Basic Car Lineup

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    1 hour ago, Buffalowed Bill said:

    I hate to contradict a Studebaker guy, but with the round headlights the Studebaker is, more likely, a Dictator. The Dictator had a price tag of about $1100, so the difference in price although not negligible, would not be as as pronounced   

    I found another pic of that Stude - a 1931 Dictator Regal, which according to The Standard Catalog was $1415, unless it was the new Series 61 that came out later in 1931 on a one inch shorter wheelbase (the same 114" as the Six) was $1225 - remembering that in 1931 all Dictators were (221 cid) eights. The 'low price' Series 53 Six (built through 1930) was $995 for the Regal sedan, and the new for 1931 Series 54 (the real 1931 model) was $970. Still a lot more than the $850 for the Dodge DH, or the $630 for the most expensive Ford sedan in 1931, or the $545 for the Chev coach.

     

    Prices kept dropping through that era. My much more primitive 1928-built Studebaker was $1395 in the US according to the Standard Catalog.  My car sold, more than 18 months after it arrived in the country, for 599 pounds sterling - more than twice the price of a new 1930 Model A at the time. It was one of only two imported, the other one having sold as soon as it arrived just before Christmas 1928.

     

    Seems the Stude here is a Canadian one. I have no information on Canadian prices.

     

    1931 Studebaker Dictator Regal sedan

     

     

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    My old car

    in What is it?

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    Yes 1925. The 1924 cars had taller skinnier wheels and the 1926 cars had an extra moulding strip along the body side.

     

    The photo isn't clear enough to count the number of rear hub bolts but I suspect the car may be the first of the new Standard Six models. Kaiser's sample in a Master.

     

    The 1925 cars had the head lamp tie bar between the lamps meaning they had left and right side lamp buckets. For 1926 the tie bar was below the lamps. I believe that is true in the majority of cases but not all.

     

     

     

     

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