KenHupp20
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This happened a few days ago
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Even a half-ashed shade tree mechanic should knot have any trouble getting this one going.
Unless there are some deep rooted problems.
just waiting for trimacar the master of all puns now
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I hope the owner wood consider my offer?
I own one brass era car and have been thinking of branching out.
Going out on a limb here ,but I really like the idea of having shade wherever you park!
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Sadly another accident,thankfully the driver will be O.K.
Peterborough,NH
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That is quite the noise.Agree with you David about the source.
I think that might be a planetary reduction gearbox on the steering.
As to the gas tank,I thought only a vary few had the low style early tanks.
There are more than a few non-stock items on this car.Looks like a whole lot of work went into it.
Ken
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Think these are Moto Meter wings .... or otherwise?
thanks ,Ken
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One old school master mechanic on heavy equipment would start it up and watch the coolant in the radiator.
With a bad head gasket it would slowly rise,burp,then repeat.
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Someone asked for a drawing of the bevel gear for a model 20 . I have this drawing,but I do not claim to know if it is actually Hupp or not ,or what ratio. I'm not an expert on gears( or much of any thing else some might say). I do not have a pinion gear drawing.
Ken
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What a beautiful job you have done. Congratulations. Like David I have a good set ,wish I needed them.
My parts book does call for lock washers but only on the rear wheels.
I have often wondered how they were made back in the day. The dome portion looks to have been a stamping (?) and the "skirt" portion spun ?
Nice work, would love to see a photo of one on the wheel .
Ken
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Some of my favorites over the years
Ferrari ; HAHA55
Honda Element ; OUTTA
Corvair ; FNADER
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If I remember correctly someone was asking about makers marks on some parts.These are on gears.
I found this in the collection.
Again thanks to Uncle Mo.
Ken
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I was away when this was first posted.
Thought I'd share this photo, sorry none for sale at this time .
Ken
btw, all the credit goes to my late uncle's tireless search for Hupp parts.
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Hello Andrew,
I have taken a couple of photos for you which may help. Or they may raise more questions.
One show the radius or fillet on one of the bronzes.This one would fit towards the clutch drum.
Another shows the shoulder on the other bronze thrust washer.
I'm not sure the shoulder fits into a recess at the back of the engine. That seems logical enough, but looking at some old stock I don't see the evidence. Everything I have looked at appears flush.You will see in another photo the fibre washer fits to the shoulder.Hmmm?
I can't say I agree with attaching the bronzes to either the block or the clutch drum ( with all due respect to Max). The factory didn't do it ,and it seems like that would make the fibre washer do all the work there.
I would agree with Max regarding the end play or float. I will admit to not being an expert,and not getting mine right the first time,or even if it's quite right yet.
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The original parts book does mention pn 208 as being Fibre.
It also mentions one bronze is shouldered as Max noted to fit towards the engine,the other bronze is filleted or radiused a bit to fit towards the clutch drum.
I also see your clutch is not safety wired. You may also want to check the bushing at the front end inside there.
Of course use caution if you decide to open the clutch drum.
The material Max mentioned sounds good,I was also thinking of delrin or some such material.
the best,Ken
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Not that I know of .Most any machine shop should be able.
If you can't find the red fibre material,I would ask around about some of the durable plastics.
I would not recommend using a needle roller bearing for the big clutch thrust washer,the bronze will work o.k.I do like the idea of one between the clutch drum and engine,but the three shown will work fine.
Of course you will want to check the other bushings in the case while it's out.
the best,Ken
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I believe part number 221 1/2 (clutch shifter ring thrust washer) should be bronze.I have also shown parts number 206,207 ,208 the clutch drum thrust washers that go in front of the clutch drum.
Ken
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You might try setting a shallow pan with some ammonia in the car a few days,then place an open bag of charcoal (not self start). Good luck
Ken
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I think David meant to type petcocoks
I think the auto correct on his "smart"phone changed it .
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You might take a look at these from Lang's
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I think you will find they are the same a model T.
Check Lang's to see what they have.
Good luck.
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Congratulations on reaching 100 pages John.
Great projects,information,and entertainment.
Thanks,Ken
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Forgive me but I have to ask;do the have a Barbaque after the race ?
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Or check into metal stitching repair.
good luck,Ken
Model 20 Clutch Problem
in Hupmobile
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Hi Karl,Wish I had some good news for you but it sounds like you will need to open it up.
David ,thank you for the compliment,not too sure I've earned it,the clutch is still a bit tricky on these.
The noise sounds like the ball earrings in the "throw out " bearing.
I am away from my parts book at this time so I can't give you the numbers. You will have to open up the clutch drum.
Be careful.
Best of luck,Ken