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So there is a Keller Woodie Station wagon on ebay. It is one of the three remaining examples of the Huntsville, AL based manufacturer. If you are looking for the rarest car in the post war car world, this makes Tuckers look like toyotas in terms of availability. I have the largest Keller library in the world and am wrapping up the restoration on one of the other kellers so I would be able to offer any knowledge or photos/literature. This is the car that the limited production class was created for and has a neat history ( you can read more at Huntsville Rewound (AL/USA) Rocket City USA ) I have no connection to the sale and have nothing to gain from its' sale other than getting this car out of a storage building and out on the show field. Enjoy..
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Just to be semantic, Statr and Durant were different marques owned by the same company. Like saying I have a Chrysler Plymouth.
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Production would be defined by a planned series of cars by a single manufacturer. Even the Coach built Bugatti Royales were technically production. Duesenberg absolutely qualifies as a production vehicle...BUT... The duesies weren't that long. For all the fame and recognition they receive, length is not one of their accolades. Now, my 73 Cadillac Fleetwood comes in at 20'1", a few inches longer than the Marmon 16 Five passenger sedan at 19'8". I don't know if there is a bigger Cadillac that is not a 75 however, 75s (series 75 factory limos (not stretched))were - in my warped mind - a production car.
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I think 34 Chevy Master Sedan but I've been wrong before!
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So.. A little birdie told me that there are 50 applications already and received by the North Alabama Regions Registration Chairman. That only leaves 50 more spots for the tour. Sign up now (before Philly) to guarantee your spot!!! All five of the families that have been on all 24 of the previous tours, have registered for this one. What a privilege to be there with them for their 25th tour! Don't delay! Order now! Operators are standing by!!
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Matt,
Thanks -that's what I felt as well but I'm not sure I can come up with the level of documentation required. I hope I can so that this unrestored little cutie gets the acronym of AACAHPOFSGCV. ( try saying that three times).
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Hey all, I'm considering bringing my 1958 Bliss Surrey to a national and can't really determine the class it should be in. It is a street legal (as of 1958) vehicle, headlights, turn signals and brake lights. There were only 500 built so would it be in the limited production class, 35. It has less than 100" wheelbase and less than four cylinders so it would be 35B. But it is also a factory built replica of a 1903 Curved Dash Olds so would it be 35C - Second generation Collector vehicle? or is simply production class? Or due to it's small size would it better end up in 4B - the micro through midsize foreign car class? It's far smaller than my Morris Minor. I'm just not sure what I need to do to register her for a show. Any help would be appreciated. -Sam
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Catskill - Are you an AACA member? Your quest for chassis ID made west peterson's column. I'd be awfully proud to be a part of the best car mag out there!!
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Someone got a great mention in the greatest car mag in the hobby! West features favored restoration threads and of course mentioned this one!!
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Pat, That car is sure coming together. I come back and track your progress all the time and love what I see. I know this is a piddling point but earlier you referred to the chicken wire in radio car roofs. All Master Sedans for 34 (I don't know about the other models) had the antenna built in to the roof. This was so they would be radio able, since that decision would be made, car by car, at the dealer. Ours has the antenna but has never had the radio. Keep up the great work!!
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The Buffalo hubs are labeled Left side and Right side with directional arrows. The threads are quite deep and will not go on the wrong side. There is a bit of an art involved in getting them on and off but not hard to do. You don't by chance have a spare left side on do you? I need one for the Marmon in my avatar.
-Sam
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It's not a model 32 Marmon but appears to have a rear transaxle like the Marmon. Is there a better shot of the fender lines from the side? maybe that would help. It reminds me of a Franklin frame I was looking at recently.
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Go with the wool. Keep the windows up and a couple of mothballs around if you are that worried. My 34 Chevy interior did wear out, the original wool just couldn't do another 75 years of wear and was replaced because it looked shabby after 30.000 miles of touring in the last 25 years that we have owned it.
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I do apologize for the delay,but as promised...
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Susan, I finally got your PM. I was on the road last week picking up, by remarkable coincidence, a 1911 Marmon. I'm not sure what the configuration for the paint was and all factory Marmon paint jobs were navy blue with a dove grey underbelly, frame and wheels in 1911.The Wasp was a custom color and I have seen it represented many times in art. There are hand colored postcards of the period and the several renditions of the Wasp. The most correct seems to be a pumpkin innards orange. Yellow with a splash of red or brown thrown in. This was not a color scheme or tone that I've found in early Marmons so I don't think researching the factory colors would help. When I had the chance to pilot the wasp, there was no original paint that we could find for a color reference. Perhaps a phone call to the IMS Mseum would be in order. They have always been very helpful when we have asked for information. Also I wonder if Chris Ritter at the Library might be able to help. It being one of the most famous race cars in history, we may have good documentation in the AACA Library. I hope this helps and I sure would love to see a pic of the model in process. My family has amassed a very large collection of Marmon Wasp memorabilia and would love to see your work. -Sam Barnett
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I'm on a bus headed from Boston to New Hampshire to pick a 1911 Model 32. I hope to be driving in the New Hampshire suburbs by dark in a lovely Model 32 Touring car. I'll post pics tonight and live viewing of the car can be done at the Huntsville, AL Founder's tour in May 2013 the Marmon Muster in Chattanooga.
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Very cool!! The only critique I have is that I didnt like how it automatically began to rotate. I really lik the arrows. Could you incorporate that into having an open hood shot. Maybe set an icon just under or over the vehicle that would draw the reader into an open hood shot with the same panoramic ability. And maybe neat interior shots like that original 1907 Model K Ford. As far as the collection,...Wow... But the poor man needs more knick knacks - his walls are so bare. Is this something you could do in private garages and besides transportation/housing, what kind of expense is involved?
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I hate getting geese on my pants......
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Sixteen. Written out, not in numbers or utilizing a "v" surname. just Sixteen. S.A.E.'s engineering advancement for the 30's. The High point (and swan song) for the engineering greatness that was Marmon.
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I am such a fool. I once again transposed Bruce S. Williams and Bruce R. Williams, two of the founding members of the Marmon Club. Have you contacted the AACA library? They have all of the Russel Stadt collection of papers and may have a bit of data that would help. As far as the old serial numbers, please share so I can cross reference with current rosters and share a bit of history with the current owners through our Marmon News.
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Pic #3 is proof that the safety minded driver drives a Marmon.
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And this -10 for 21.06
2330 6V 32CP Dual Filament Prefocused Replacement Light Bulb, Lamp
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If Bruce S. Williams owned your car, call Bruce S. Williams. He will remember the car and give to you a litany of information about the car. Great guy.
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Reconstruction of a '34 Chevy Master Coupe
in Our Cars & Restoration Projects
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Pat, I had so much trouble with the aftermarket stalk that just mounts by pulling the aluminum band tight and folding it over, that I removed it and just use hand signals. When it would rotate, it would point straight down, getting into the way of my feet and scratching the heck out of the Steering column. I would toss it in a box and move on....