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1968 Coupe>L68-427 Tri-Power M21-3:36 (AU)Rear/G81-Posi-LeMans Blue(976) Medium Blue Interior (414) Numbers Matching-Frame off restoration-Car has multiple NCRS Top Flights and is Bloomington Gold Certified. Original (PT7) Firestone Wide Ovals on (AG) wheels(Including Spare). Has A82-C50-N36 rare options. Comes with Partial-Tank Sticker & NCRS Paperwork. Asking 45K Call Larry Phone: 815-663-8304 NCRS Member #16324

Have added picture and set price. See original thread on top-Thanks-Larry

Thought I would move this up the line. Have gotten some interesting bids so far. Have added the "Build Sheet". Thanks--Larry

Thanks for the response. AFA price I have no idea what it is worth since it is so rare and so low mileage. Can not find anything else to compare with. Larry--P.S. I am open for opinions.

CAMARO: 1994 Z28 1LE, very rare 1 of 135, Black with Gray/Red Interior; B-W(T-56)6 Speed-192 total miles. Have all conceivable paperwork on the car, bought new and still has the Chevrolet inspection stickers on the windows. Car should be treated as an investment. Legal to run on the street. Primary customers were sold to the SCCA members. This is a “No Frills” Pony Car. ”This car could be the lowest mileage Gen4 1LE in the country” ASKING 20K. Call Larry@8156638304 ASKING 20K Reason For Selling>NEED ROOM-Have an eye on another car. I am not in the market to make a big profit on this car. All I want is a "Fair Price". On the other hand I do not want to give it away either. This car is intended to be sold to a "Low mileage Camaro Collector" not a dealer that wants a quick turnover.

One must also remember the cost of "Real Estate Tax" when one has a storage facility. In Illinois this tax is going up drastically. Also when your storage facility has no one living there the rate is higher then if it is attached to your house. (At least in Illinois) It is starting to become a very expensive hobby! Larry

MC>Thanks for the input. Instead of saying "improperly restored perfect car" ; I should have said "Improperly restored to the original condition of the car". As we know when you get into the AACAGN all cars look perfect but they all are not restored to the original condition of the car. IMHO P.S. I am a judge in other org. but sorry to say none of what I learned in those org. applies to the judging in AACA.

I humbly disagree. Judging a AGNM is harder because a judge has to know the cars better and separate the "bling"(improperly restored perfect cars) from the original cars. As good as best intentions are; it is very easy to get "overwhelmed" by the bling.-Larry

Frantz: I concur what you said above but differ when you indicate "If every point on the vehicle". When you have to be within 5 points of the Top Car (Grand National)>EVERY SINGLE POINT IS CRITICAL!!! Something has got to give and it comes down to this: 1)Change the requirement of being within 5 Points to a more realistic number. Or 2)Take more time in Judging and get input from the car owners to a more degree. Yes you give the owner the right to defend his car but no one is giving you the input of taking points off the improper over restored cars that are explained above. (eg:Gloss Point vs. Semi Gloss) Every-time you let this slide the original car has a more difficult time of getting within the 5 point threshold. Of course this is JMHO--Larry It comes down to this: It not the points taken off of your car but the points that are not taken off the Top Car.

Curti: Take it from me that the "bling" still exist especially when you get to the Grand National Level. It appears to me as good as the judges are they are still "overwhelmed" with the "bling" and make it hard for an all original car to get within 5 Pt. of the Top Car. JMHO P.S. Try to explain this to the judges before the judging started to point out some of the differences but to no avail. BTW-NCRS will take points off for this-the way it should be. The judges are only human and "THIS WILL INFLUENCE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN THEY COMPARE CARS"

Plan on going to the meet@Bettendorf IA in Aug.. I have an original type battery(Restoration Battery) that is a perfect looking type for the car. Problem is that it is old and can barely start the car now. Question: can I drive the car onto the show field with a new none original battery type then "change-out" the battery for judging purposes on the judging field?? If not can I put a "battery box" on the original one to drive onto the field; then take it off before judging?? Thanks in Advance--Larry

Marty>Thanks for the response. But extending it another 200 Miles is way to far for one way for me. That would mean a layover somewhere in between which is what I don't want to do for security reasons and time involved. Larry

Couple of questions. Will the car get judged identical as cars get judged for "Senior"? P.S. Not talking about the % from top car is class but the things they look for on the scoring sheet. Is there a limit on times to go for in Preservation Award?? Thanks

Restorer32>Car has been awarded "Senior" several years ago. Thanks

Plan on going to the "Central Fall Meet"@Bettendorf IA in Aug. with one of my "Senior" awarded cars to get judged. What is the award given in this case?? I plan on buying the 2017 Judging Guide when they become available. Thanks in Advance. Larry P.S. Plan on going to a Grand National IF we ever have one closer to Illinois. My towing range is 200 miles one way.