BigAl Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I have an after market starter probably made in the late teens. It was made by Wagner Electric and has a gear reduction of 8/1 with the drive having a chain sprocket on it. I saw a similar starter mounted on a brass car and it had a chain sprocket on front end of flywheel. This starter has no clutch so when the engine is running the starter would turn. The one I saw on the brass car had not clutch either. Can anyone tell me if such a starter is made to turn all the time the engine is running? I will be glad to send an email image of this starter to anyone who may be able to help. Almlshaw@cs.com. There is one photo attached to this post.Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Why do you think this is an aftermarket unit? Many makes of cars used Wagner electrics and this one is similar to Studebaker. The motor runs the gear reduction, then the chain and finally a roller clutch on the nose of the crankshaft. The engine cannot drive back and spin the starter, if it did the gearbox and/or starter would quickly over speed with such a ratio and spread itself <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> all over the engine compartment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 to Layden BGood point about my starter. I bought it at a flea market and having seen the same starter on a 09 Chalmers assumed it was an aftermarket item, The Chamlers had a sprocket on the crankshaft but I didn't see any clutch there. Can you give me anything on years Studebaker used this item? My email is almlshaw@cs.comAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I owned a 24 Studebaker Special Six that had that exact starter on it, althought I think that it is an earlier starter than 24. I think the basic engine design was simmilar from around 1918-24. I used the Wagner because it was more reliable than the Delco unit that came on my 24, Delco was using lots of pot-metal in those items and the brushes were not allways working right in mine. I bought the Wagner unit from a Camaro dealer at Carlisle for all of 3 dollars...it was marked 5, but he saw me looking and hollered out a price to get rid of it. I think it was one of the only good buys I found there.The clutch component is a one-way ball-bearing wedge affair built into the sprocket on the front of the crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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