Peter Gariepy Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Before you all start a heated debate on the merits of the new "Packard Links" thread let me make the following statement:The links were not requested by anyone, no one coerced me into posting their link, nor are any of the links in any way indorses or recommended by the AACA or it's webmaster.The links are simply a courtesy to those who use this forum and would like to see other Packard resources on the net. Don?t read anything more into it.Note that virtually all the other forums link to similar sites where appropriate ? for no other reason than it?s the right thing to do.For those of you who think I've somehow "infringing on your territory". The Packard Forum is hosted and maintained by the Antique Automobile Club of America. FREE I might add. The AACA has the right to moderate and contribute to this forum as it sees fit.Because this forum is not affiliated with a specific club I have no one to consult with relative to changes like this. Therefore I make additions and changes to this forum based upon what I feel it needs to best serve the community it supports. Keep in mind I?ve been running this forum for over 10 years. In this case links to other Packard resources is appropriate? and needed.For those that feel strongly enough against these links? feel free to email me. I will no debate this issue in an open forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Peter,Thanks for your time and dedication to this site. I see it can be a thankless job at times.Also thanks for posting the Packard Links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Block Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Have thought about adding Eastern packards if it still is active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cnbed Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 The Eastern Packard Club is very much alive. They do not have their own website, but they can be found through the Hemmings website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 dont hesitate to send me other packard linkspeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Fallon Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 The links can only be helpful surely Peter .Have the Packard folk given you problems in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 L.Fallon,Yup. Not worth dragging up old issues. My point is starting this thread the way I did was to nip the issue in the bud... before people started openly speculating the whys/hows/whats of why I added the links. Looks like it worked. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 The links are fine. No one should care. It's a benign subject. It might actually help someone looking for something. End of story. What folks don't want is moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Twitch, like it or not this forum will be moderated.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 re: moderated: fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Choon choon choon choon choon choon choon choon If there are no volunteers then there can't be any moderator.How can there be any moderator if no one volunteers????_____________________________________________________________________________ The Wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think he means he is the moderator <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> But he rarely has to censor anything on this forum. We just don't have an abundance of flamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 HHHmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe Peter G wants us to recruit some ????? is that what what he's trying to tell us????? I'm confused. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Peter: I hope that you keep some things in mind when moderating this forum. Being that this a free Packard forum that I hope PAC can't control, and has helped the AACA in one important matter a couple of years ago. We helped exposed a writter that was a fraud, and forced a retraction of the story by the club that printed it. Without this forum being free and opend this wouldn't have happened.Soemtimes in trying to settle a matter with a club over something that you disagree with that has been printed, and you go through the propor channels to get things settled, and you end up geeting sand bagged on the matter, this forum is a persons only recourse in trying to settle such matters.Free speaking forums like this one help keep clubs honest and accountable.John F. ShiremanI will also say THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO IN RUNNING THE AACA WEB SITE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I guess I didn't post in enough detail. Peter is the ultimate moderator and always has been. The fact that we police ourselves reasonably well is the reason we have not seen a heavy hand, but I know he scans all forums as part of his job. He hasn't taken over as Packard moderator - he has always been the defacto moderator of all forums. If I am in error, he will correct me. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 Randy, youre exactly right.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 John (Packard53),I've never had a heavy hand moderating. A healthly debate is always a good thing. The only time I will delete a post is when things get out of hand or personal. Like I did for the "TO STUART BLOND" thread.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Wasn't there a big discussion about this here once and it was concluded that there is no want or need for a Packard-specific moderator? Peter is a universal moderator and that doesn't count. There is and has been no nastyness going on between any folks here with a need for arbitrary action. Unlike other areas of this web community there is no one here in Packard calling others morons or idiots. This is like a country town with 100 inhabitants. You just don't need an expensive electronic traffic signal where the only 2 roads in town cross when a tin stop sign will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Packards1 Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Peter, I guess my only comment about the links is why are they so important that they are always on the top of the page. All the other items on the forum move as intrests arise. Telling people about six Packard sites everytime we go to the forum is overkill. Just my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Put this link in the pinned Packard Links thread:http://forums.aaca.org/showflat.php?Cat=...amp;amp;fpart=1AND it should be at the VERY TOP of the list since it exists under the auspices of the AACA. Name it 55 and 56 Packard Parts Cross Reference.( Everyone: Can u see it now???? Certain selected dealers and or organizations turning beet red in the head, nostrils bulging out like a double barrel shot gun and their lips wrapped around their teeth) <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />Blessed are the peace makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JT Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess my only comment about the links is why are they so important that they are always on the top of the page. </div></div> My guess would be that it makes it easy for any first time visitors to get to other sites and info. Just a matter of convenience maybe. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />Not a big deal to me to see them at the top of the page all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Pinned threads (or the lack of the 3 Xref threads, we had before) are still a SORE spot with me. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> That's why I haven't commented about pinning the club links again. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> But since you bring it up, I thought I would state my opinion again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Packards1 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 This is great, I get to see the Packard links when I log on. I may have missed it otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pinned threads (or the lack of the 3 Xref threads, we had before) are still a SORE spot with me. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> That's why I haven't commented about pinning the club links again. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> But since you bring it up, I thought I would state my opinion again. </div></div>I agree 100% with pinning the Xref links along with the club links. It's a hassle to try to find the Xrefs buried among old posts, and they are single most important info threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 In a perfect world there should exist a separate "Packard Links" topic heading besides links to clubs it would be helpful to have a link to established businesses that sell Packard parts and accessories. You'd be surprised how few people know about Kanter outside of this forum. Everyone here has some link for some thing. 6v alternators? Where's the link? Complete wiring harnesses? Where does a guy go? And there's many more areas that I had to scrounge up by time consuming "guesstimate" searches on the web before I got my Packard and right after I did. Once I looked like crazy for a 6v tach and couldn't find a site. Someone else had a link.Most web sites have a "Links" heading right on their home page. Perhaps if the site had that which led to links for whatever car one was looking for it would be easier for a stranger to navigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thanks Brian, I wasn?t aware of the ?favorite threads? feature, now I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard8 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Excellent idea Twitch. There could be one pinned thread with links to Clubs, Vendors, and Xref threads. That would be a big help to both the new ppl arriving and the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, I agree, that would be a Great way to do it. Listing important threads with the clubs would be okay. I think there was a problem with listing Vendors, on this website, when someone suggested that we have them, before. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I think it was a problem with Paying versus nonPaying advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Brian, I've Never seen the Packard Links thread Disappear ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 The links regarding vendors could be allowed for members to post good experiences with companies they've found. What is this and many hobbies about other than personal references? "Contact Acme Muffler, he's a car guy and is honest," would be an example, with link included. Haggerty Insurance could have a paid ad and Joe Doaks could also post a link to a company he's dealt with that sells replica mirrors or whatnot. If it's worth making a "Links" section it's worth doing so that it actually provides meaningful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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