Guest imported_PWN Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 In 2004, the only Gas I used was in my Chandler and in my lawn mower. Total fossil fuel (Terrorist Oil) consumption about 10 gallons.Ran three VW TDIs on 100% Biodiesel. Great for the air, great for the car, great for American farmers and bad for Terrorist Oil.Any one running a diesel ANYTHING should locate a nearby source (good luck) and do the right thing by America.Cheers,Peterwww.tdiclub.comwww.biodiesel.orgwww.bodieselnow.comwww.greasecar.comwww.greasel.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 We have a 2004 Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel 4X4. I will have Bill to check into this. I doubt we have a source near here, but it would pay to check it out.Thanks for the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PWN Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 ShopratDon't know how close you are but here is the place listed for W Virg.Bruceton Petroleum Rt. 7 WestKingswood, WV 26537 Mike Hollins 304 329-4547These are places for Virginia, one is very close to W.Virg.http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/distributors/showstate.asp?st=VAMy wife and I go through 165 gallons in 3-4 months (VW TDIs get 38-45 city and greater on highway) and we buy it in Tampa when I am there on business trips. Three 55 gallon drums.The cost ranges from 2.6 - 3$ a gallon but due to the high mpg of the VWs we still come out way ahead.Good luck and thanks for your interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Wow. Thanks for tracking that so quickly. Kingwood is north of us. I will have to run a map and see how far. We are fourteen miles west of Charleston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Shop Rat, be very careful with Biodiesel in the wintertime in your area. A local trucking company in the Winchester, Va. area had all of their small biodiesel trucks sitting on the side of the road during that last cold snap back in January. That stuff doesn't like cold weather. It has to be treated with a special anti-gel agent that isn't commonplace in the industry yet. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PWN Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 No special anti-gel needed. Just mix with regular diesel. Regular diesel will be a winter blend with anti-gel. A 50/50 mix should do it. In Florida, with lows in the upper teens a mix of 80-85 percent Biodiesel with dinosaur diesel works fine.Biodiesel mixes with diesel in any amounts or quantities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Thanks for the additional info. Bill was a Union Carbide/Dow chemical process engineer until two years ago and I am sure would love to check all this out.We do use the anti-gel in cold weather. This is our first diesel vehicle. He used to work on them back in New Jersey when he was younger and still in college. It was a couple of his summer jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Mixing with regular diesel doesn't work up here in the North, Peter. That particular day I was speaking of had even regular diesel trucks on the side of the road. I had brand a new 2005 Pete not 100 miles from my home that had cut off, would not restart. Had a repair shop get him going. He then went to the nearest "big time" fueling truckstop and proceeded to fill up both tanks with diesel. He drove 10 miles up the road before the engine lost power again. It seems fuel companies up this way do not treat their fuel until someone complains about it. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I finally caught up with him that night and put "double treatment" in his tanks. He had no other problems after that. The problem with Bio is that the regular diesel treatment wasn't compatable with Bio. To prevent the problem, heated fuel tanks are needed, but that's something most small diesel vehicles do not have available to them. You have to think like a hot rodder, I guess! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> "<span style="font-weight: bold">We'll make our own heating device. Let's see, how about running the exhaust pipe through the fuel tank? Yep, that oughta do it!" </span> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PWN Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 http://forums.tdiclub.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB44This is a good source for Biod information. Most users are in the midwest or Canada. I had a gelling problem in January as well, but was running 100% Biod.Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 We had a long, informative thread on biodiesel in the R&R section 2 months ago. ( bio diesel?) Ignore the fishing with explosives tangent, <span style="font-style: italic">it was R&R</span>! In it I posted a link to biodiesel.org's various fact sheets, which includes one on cold flow impacts. When using biodiesel blends it would appear that there are no meaningful temperature impacts. Neat biodiesel may be another story (and probably is if this is the best info they can come up with).PWN,Neat biodiesel is 100% pure soy sourced material. It is far more common to find the 80/20 blend with fossil fuel diesel. Are you sure that you're using the "neat" version?Either way, [color:\\"green\\"]<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">RIGHT ON, MAN!!! </span></span> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PWN Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Dave, I buy 100% biodiesel that is made from 70% waste vegetable oils and the rest soy oil. I mix it with fossil fuel diesel in the tank of the cars when I need to. I am going to check out your previous. Thread.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Shop Rat,I PM you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Just sent a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Now we know why your vehicle smells like McDonald fries when you go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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