For Sale: 1949 Packard Deluxe Eight 22nd Series Touring Sedan - $11,000 - Avon, OH - Not Mine

[58L-Y8]

For Sale: 1949 Packard Deluxe Eight 22nd Series Touring Sedan - $11,000 - Avon, OH

 

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-1949-packard-deluxe-8-touring-sedan/7199046609.html

1949 Packard Deluxe Eight Touring Sedan - good running and driving car. Previously owned by a longtime Packard collector. New carpets throughout the car. Paint was redone in the early 90's. Three speed on the tree transmission. $11,000.

Contact:  (440) 2-one-3-5-one-4-one

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I have no personal interest or stake in the eventual sale of this 1949 Packard Deluxe Eight 22nd Series Touring Sedan.

[alsancle]

Does the "Deluxe" mean the 359 nine main engine?

 

Nice car.

[58L-Y8]

No, For the 1948-'49 22nd Series, the Deluxe Eight has the 288 c.i. straight eight, the Super Eights the 327 ci, only the Custom Eights have the nine-main-bearing 356 ci straight eight.  While the 288 and 327 were a new generation straight eight that was developed from the architecture and tooling of the 245 ci six, the 356 ci was the straight eight that came on line for the 1940 160 and 180  Senior models, such as your Darrin victoria.  The 356 was the Custom engine through the 1950 23rd Series.    The 359 ci was the one-year-only 1954 Senior series nine-main-bearing created by increasing the bore and stroke of the 327 ci engine.  The 359 was created in an effort to remain competitive with the other luxury make V8's until the Packard V8 could be brought to market for 1955.

[alsancle]

1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said:

No, For the 1948-'49 22nd Series, the Deluxe Eight has the 288 c.i. straight eight, the Super Eights the 327 ci, only the Custom Eights have the nine-main-bearing 356 ci straight eight.  While the 288 and 327 were a new generation straight eight that was developed from the architecture and tooling of the 245 ci six, the 356 ci was the straight eight that came on line for the 1940 160 and 180  Senior models, such as your Darrin victoria.  The 356 was the Custom engine through the 1950 23rd Series.    The 359 ci was the one-year-only 1954 Senior series nine-main-bearing created by increasing the bore and stroke of the 327 ci engine.  The 359 was created in an effort to remain competitive with the other luxury make V8's until the Packard V8 could be brought to market for 1955.

 

Thanks.   I know the 327 is 5 main bearings and the 359 is nine so there must be a more differences than stroke?

[58L-Y8]

5 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

Thanks.   I know the 327 is 5 main bearings and the 359 is nine so there must be a more differences than stroke?

Oh, there is, for the 1951 Patrician, Packard created a nine-main-bearing 327 ci, which was installed exclusively in the Patrician sedans through 1953!  Talk about creating an engine that was the equivalent of pi$$ing your pants in a dark suit!  Other than a slightly higher horsepower rating, the difference in operation was imperceptible

[58L-Y8]

10 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said:

the difference in operation was imperceptible

...from the five-main-bearing 327 ci installed in all their other models except the low-line 200/Clipper Special.  Apparently, someone thought because the outgoing 356 was a nine-main-bearing that another was necessary, though failed to notice a large displacement was in order too.

[alsancle]

And I was wondering why Packard went bankrupt....

 

I guess I’m not easily upgrading the 327 in our 53 to 359 specs?

[58L-Y8]

BTW, there is a 1950 Eight 23rd Series sedan kicking around New England that was fitted with a 356 ci engine, the largest engine in the lightest body, it also has overdrive.  Probably quite a powerful driver.

[58L-Y8]

1 minute ago, alsancle said:

And I was wondering why Packard went bankrupt....

 

I guess I’m not easily upgrading the 327 in our 53 to 359 specs?

Only a complete engine swap for a 1954 359 will do it.  Block is different etc.  Check with Kanters and Ross Miller, either might know of a 359 ready to install. 

[58L-Y8]

If you haven't a copy yet, get the book Packard 1951-1954 by Robert J Neal, its worthwhile reading for every Packard owner of those years.  It explains so many of the background reasons why the company never returned to its old vigor and how it was set up for failure.  Preface to that is Mr. Neal's Packard 1948-1950, which taken together completely explains the multiple management mistakes that piled one on top of the other well before Jim Nance took the reins.  

[alsancle]

58 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said:

Only a complete engine swap for a 1954 359 will do it.  Block is different etc.  Check with Kanters and Ross Miller, either might know of a 359 ready to install. 

 

Well, my dad had the same car for 30 years with a 54 359 in it.   He buddy that owned an identical 53 Caribbean always wondered why my dad's car seemed more powerful.  You could really notice it.

 

We sold that 15 years ago at Hershey,  probably should have kept it.