Guest steakneggs Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's time my neighbor get out of the demo derby business. He already has to deal with a scarcity of carbureted full-size derby candidates. He has to gut EFI equipped clunkers and move the gas tank inside hoping he didn't eliminate some sensor wire or some essential thing that needs to work for ten minutes. I usually help him when it gets close to the local derby event. His early 80's Buick had the m/c off and laying in the trunk. For some reason he bought another one at a junk yard for $80 (!) and installed it. It has an elec motor, an accumulator, and a control valve but a conventional m/c. My son helped him with it yesterday get it operational. Find out today if the boost works. Steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Steak, I fail to see your point. What are you trying to tell us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazytrain2 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Is that derby car a Frankenstein or does he prefer the name Fraunkinshteen ? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest F14CRAZY Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 On a for real note, it was just mentioned on GMinsidenews.com on a regal Grand National...its not-unlike Teves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steakneggs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm just trying to make the point that things used to be simpler and all this newfangled stuff like EFI and Teves' could prevent demolition derbies from becoming an Olympic sport. Steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest F14CRAZY Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I myself have been in the market for a full sized carb-ed car and don't like the thought of them being "wasted" in a derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steakneggs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 You better find it before my neighbor does. I think he has a search drone. Steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 The major difference between the Reatta Teves brakes and the Grand National is the lack of ABS. If you look at the Grand National parts, they are marked with the same "logo"... strongly suggesting they came from the same source (Teves)The Grand National unit was used on that car because there was a concern for the lack of vacumn to operate a conventional power brake. Turbo and supercharged cars have pressure in the intake, not vacumn when the car is under boost, so this creates the requirement for a hydraulic boost. There was a similar problem on the V8 diesel engines used in cars (GM) in the late '70. This was solved by using a vacumn pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steakneggs Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 This bucket of my neighbor's is no Grand National. It's a station wagon. The pump is located several inches under the m/c. The accumulator sticks out the driver's side of the m/c and the control valve points upward. I'm gonna help him tonite and I'll get a better look at it. Steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Steak.....that is the same config as a Gran National...the wagon may have originally had a diesel engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest F14CRAZY Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I could use an Electra Estate in good shape..need something to tow my Bayliner though I spose I probably could use the "GS"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steakneggs Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 My neighbor gave me the old m/c to examine. It's missing the pump and accumulator. It has a reservoir real similar to my Riv unit. Even the m/c is similar except it has an accumulator port and a port for the pump line. I was looking for the logo that makes a hand built two-seater obtainable for $2K but didn't find anything but numbers. Steak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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