What the heck is this?

[Guest]

Can anyone 'positively' identify this automobile? The license plate<BR>indicates Illinois, 1914... It looks as though the steering is on the right, and those sure look like kerosene lanterns!<BR> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/car_ride.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/car_ride.jpg</A> <P>Phil Gunsul - WB9AAX <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/</A> <BR>prg.GARBAGE@cris.com<BR>[Remove GARBAGE for E-mail]

[Guest]

[For some strange reason, GeoCites server would not allow viewing of the original picture. I have since copied it to another location.. Sorry..]<P>Can anyone 'positively' identify this automobile? The license plate indicates Illinois, 1914... It looks as though the steering is on the right, and those sure look like kerosene lanterns!<BR> <A HREF="http://www.cris.com/~prg/car_ride.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cris.com/~prg/car_ride.jpg</A> <P>Phil Gunsul - WB9AAX <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/</A> <BR> prg.GARBAGE@cris.com<P>[Remove GARBAGE for E-mail]

[Guest]

<p>[ 08-18-2001: Message edited by: peterg ]

[Guest]

It certainly is earlier than a 1914.

[Guest EMF-Owner]

My first though on seeing this photo was that it was an E-M-F. After looking through the photo archive at the E-M-F Homepage, I came across a photo of a 1911 E-M-F Open Touring. Actually it is an artist rendition from some early literature. <P>I believe it to be a 1911 E-M-F Open Touring.<P>Here is the link to the E-M-F Homepage. The picture is in the photo archive for 1911.<P><A HREF="http://www.1freespace.com/auto/jmd1" TARGET=_blank>E-M-F Homepage</A>

[Guest]

John, the match for my picture and the 1911 E-M-F is almost uncanny! The only difference I see is the very front of the front fenders. My picture seems to have a piece that 'drops down', almost giving the fender an eye-lid. But other than that, it looks right on! Please forgive my ignorance, but what does the E-M-F stand for? You are certainly welcome to keep a copy of the picture for you site if you would like. The occupants are my g-grandmother, behind the wheel, my grandmother in the 'passenger' seat and some pretty distant cousins in the back seat... No pun intended.<P>Phil Gunsul - WB9AAX <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3118/</A> <BR> prg.GARBAGE@cris.com<BR> [Remove GARBAGE for E-mail] <P>Thanks again John

[Guest]

Every Morning Fixit?

[ply33]

Everett-Metzger-Flanders

[novaman]

<B>E</B>very <B>M</B>echanics <B>F</B>riend

[Guest]

Of course Tod is correct, but the other answers are fun. ~ hvs

[Guest EMF-Owner]

After I posted my last message, I took a little more time to look at the pictures on the E-M-F Homepage and also noticed the difference in the front of front fenders. I also see a difference in the dash. The headlights are of the E&J style used on the 1912 E-M-F's. There is a nice picture of a 1911 Open touring on the 1911 page of the E-M-F Homepage Photo Archive.<P>I also did a backword and forward comparision to see if the front fenders/firwall may have been a hold out from the previous year or somenthing new for the following year. It does not appear so.<P>Another thought comes to mind, but one I can not investigate at this time. The Everitt 30 automobile was VERY similiar to the E-M-F. Could this be an Everitt? I have some pictures at home I will look at and repost. <P>This may be a 1911 E-M-F 30 Open touring with some "bills" added to the front fenders.<BR>If you look at the far front fender (would be passenger side - remember, right hand drive, so left side fender) something just does not look right abouth the front of that fender. May be it is just me.<P>Anyone else have any other ideas of what this car could be. I am not 100% sure it is an E-M-F.<P><A HREF="http://www.1freespace.com/auto/jmd1" TARGET=_blank>E-M-F Homepage</A>

[D Binger]

Phil,<P>That is not a 1910 Overland. I have a 1910 Overland Model 42. If it is an Overland it is before 1909. The front fenders have a lip on them and I don't think Overlands had them until later. THere are no front doors - - Overland started using front doors in 1911. I have no idea what it is. My first thought was Cadillac.<P>Dan<P>Dan

[Guest]

How about a 1910 Overland

[Guest]

How about a '10 or '11 Velie?<BR>Don't think it's an EMF and it's definitely not an Overland or Cadillac.