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On 7/12/2022 at 7:09 AM, John Bloom said:
This should be an interesting thread. There are conservative makes, and more flamboyant makes, and then there is Delahaye. Never to be accused of being shy.
I only know what I Google, but I think my favorites so far are the 135 cars by the likes of Pennock and Chapron. Really beautiful lines, but not so flamboyant that it no longer seems to be a functioning car. I love this design by Pennock:
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We don't have a CCCA forum thread on Delahayes, so I figured I would start one. I think a lot of CCCA-eligible Delahayes (Series 135, 145, 148, 165) are just stunning to look at. I'd be interested in any opinions of them as actual cars to drive. Are they reliable, are parts available in the U.S., etc? Certainly not performance cars, but curious how they drive. Also interested in views of the Delahaye market. It seems that prices vary dramatically based on coachbuilder (as one would expect), but I don't know if there are rules of thumb about what the market looks for.
More broadly, just figured we need a Delahaye thread.
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I owned a 1938 LaSalle convertible coupe for a few years, from around 2010 to 2017. I can see both sides of this one. On one hand, it seemed a little odd at the time that my '38 was not a CCCA car when the larger Cadillacs were; they had a lot in common with their bigger brethren. And some of the years of LaSalle are just really beautiful to look at, especially the '34s. On the other hand, put a '38 side by side with a senior Packard, and there's no comparison. The need to draw lines is never going to make everyone happy, and I can see both sides on this one.
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Wonderful news, may you have a lifetime of happiness together.
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7 hours ago, edinmass said:
Obviously they didn't have me fix their car.........ours doesn't smoke a whiff.
Certainly an incredibly cool car if you can also buy the rare Edminnieator desmoker.
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I gather it didn't sell, with a 300-450k estimate, back in 2018:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24811/lot/59/?category=list
Quite the opening to the 2018 Bonhams listing:
"Anyone who has been overtaken by a car with a sleeve valve engine will have the memory branded into their brain. First comes the surprise caused by a silent machine coming out of nowhere, as no engine noise gave warning of its approach. Then, the passing, still silent, with only the whoosh from the tires on the pavement to accompany the rush. Followed by the squinting and coughing as you desperately try to see where you are going, immersed in a dense cloud of smoke and fumes, a smog that most certainly does not smell of roses..."
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Lovely cars!
My main thought may be an obvious point, but I'll offer it just in case: Make sure that you drive each of them every few weeks. Old cars are like people, they need to be regularly exercised to keep everything working right. Nothing keeps old cars on the road like regularly taking them out on the road.
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On 3/28/2020 at 6:45 PM, alsancle said:
Any chance that is the lone surviving model H in the background? I think maybe yes.
I was fortunate to get a private showing of this car around a decade ago. It's just off the charts stunning in every way. I assume they kept it in the family after the prior owner's passing.
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Very cool Chrysler.
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Where I am, in the San Francisco East bay area, there seems to be a lot of old cars but not a lot of old car shows -- of any kind. I get why there are a lot of old cars: It's a great climate to drive an old car 12 months out of the year, and there's no salt on the roads so no rust. But I'm not sure why there aren't that many shows. Maybe it's just too packed around here, with every square inch filled up with something, so the driving isn't easy and it's hard to find a place with a lot of parking for shows? I don't know.
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These updates are terrific, AJ. Seems like quite the adventure. Have fun and be safe.
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California, your favorite state! I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time.
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Living the dream, AJ. Living the dream.
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I think this is all a matter of, "COMPARED TO WHAT?"
If you assume a world where there are lots of pre-war cars, and interesting rare and oddball post-war cars, then the tri-five Chevies aren't very interesting. They're very attractive, and they conjure an age, but they're not unusual.
On the other hand, if you assume a world of modern cars, where a "vintage car" might be something from the 90s, and no one around has anything before 1970, then tri-five Chevies are pretty cool. They're very attractive, and they conjure an age.
As for me, I think the '57s in particular are striking cars. Not sure I'll ever get one, as I'm more of a pre-war person, but you never know. (I'm 51, for what it's worth.)
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That's a really cool car. Love it. Congrats.
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Just a few hours ago, I was looking through the book he edited and published, "The Stewardship of Historically Important Automobiles." I bought the book at his museum back in 2018 (as I recall, he was there that day and I thought of asking him to sign it, but I didn't want to bother him).
A big loss for the hobby. May his rest in peace.
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I've been. a Hagerty customer for 20 years. I had a claim around 2006 or so, and Hagerty was great.
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As I understand it, motor and engine are now used interchangeably, but they used to mean slightly different things. "Motor" was originally a thing that caused a moving item to move, and "engine" was a broader term that meant any machine that produced an output. But yeah. today the same thing.
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That's the Tesla approach, from what I understand.
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Just Googling around, here's some info that comes up. (I don't know if it's accurate, but it's a responsive search result.)
Antique Autos of America, was owned and operated by David Samuels in Largo, Florida. With over fifty employees, Antique Autos of America was one of the premier auto restoration facilities in the United States. Cars restored by Antique Autos included the famed the Frank Lloyd Wright L29 Cord in 1981. The company was so well respected that cars would just show up on trailers to be restored, not even knowing whom the cars belonged to. Southeastern Replicars was a side company of Antique Autos of America. Southeastern Replicars was the replica division of David Samuels company. Michael Akins was the production manager.
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Love this. Looks just like it would have in period, nothing fancied up, and the kind of Packard you were most likely to see. Bravo.
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The most inexplicable thing regular-car drivers sometimes do, when they see an antique car, is to drive up near it and then honk their horns. I'm sure we've all experienced that one many times! Especially when you're in an open car, that horn blast is LOUD. And you're already being hyper-attentive, making the horn blast extra-startling.
I assume they're doing it to express appreciation. Honking the horn is their way of saying, "hey, cool car!" But sheesh. no thanks.
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I don't know if driving old cars makes you a better driver in a newer car, as the experience is so different that I don't know if the habits cross over. But all of us who drive pre-war cars on the occasional highway know how exhausting an experience it can be given how hyper-attentive you have to be the road, other drivers, and your car. May you all live near pleasant back roads!
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I had been dating my wife (then girlfriend) for a few months when we were in the garage with the Packards and she started asking me just how much these old cars costs to buy and maintain. In our conversation, I responded that, if we were going to end up together, it was really important to me that she support my old car habits. To this day, I remember that as the conversation when she implicitly agreed to support my old car habits. Meanwhile, she only remembers that as the first time we talked about getting married.
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LaSalle 1927-1940
in CCCA - General
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Yes, all of them. New CCCA list here: "LaSalle – 1927-1940 All"
https://dealer-marketing-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/CCCA/CCCA%2BJanuary%2B1+V2.pdf