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17 hours ago, viv w said:
one cannot be sure if those drum lights left the factory with the car, or maybe they were fitted by a previous owner.
For sure, it would have been an easy job to change the headlights. Changing from drum style to bullet headlights to make the car look newer would not be unusual, but the reverse to make it look older would be odd. And if an owner of a 1928 model 52 changed to drum headlights to make it look like a 1927, I would not expect him to go so far as to drill holes and run wiring to add cowl lights which were not originally on the 1928 model.
Either way, the car is equally attractive and only a few obsessive car guys like myself will ever know the difference. It would be nice to have the title reflect the actual model if possible.
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Don't take my information as hard facts, but I differ with some of the previous responders. As a previous owner of a 1928 Model 52 I can say this is not a 1928 Chrysler but older. The 1928 model 52 had bullet style headlights with no cowl lights. The parking lights were mounted in the headlight housing above the headlamp bulb, visible in this photo if the resolution is good enough. This is an unmolested 1928 Model 52 Landau sedan. This car had the 2-wheel mechanical brakes which were available, I believe throughout the 4-cylinder production.
It's newer than 1926. This 1926 coupe has a taller squared off top, as you can see. You can also see that it does not have the fake convertible top that its GM competition had.
If it's newer than 1926 and older than 1928 it must be --- drum roll --- a 1927 model.
This one is a keeper. The 4-cylinder Chryslers were utilitarian cars, low on performance but very durable. And the 2-wheel brakes will stop the car, just not as quickly as 4-wheel brakes. It's easy to lock up the rear brakes. Parts are not difficult to find. The biggest thing that concerns me about this one is the sagging doors which likely indicate deterioration of the wood door posts (and possibly other structural wood). Be sure you understand the implications of that. Basically, the entire body structure is wood with metal wrapped around it. It doesn't mean it's a no-go, but just that the restorer might have to learn some new woodworking skills. Not necessarily a bad thing!
Go for it. It's not a car you're likely to park beside at the local cruise-in.
Don
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A topic close to my heart. I have lots of photos of derelict cars. One of my favorites is this one photographed in Iowa in the 1990's.
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"Must see to appreciate a true classic."
Indeed, a "true classic" needs to be seen (and driven) to really appreciate it --- and this ain't one!!
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Your car is a 1950 Chevrolet Special Fleetline 4-door sedan. "Fleetline" refers to the slope back. The "notchback" model was a "Styleline". The Special was the bottom of the line model with very little chrome and a very basic interior. The DeLuxe models had more chrome on the outside and an upgraded interior.
https://www.nationalchevyassoc.com/documents/NCA_ChevyIdentitification_lowres.pdf
According to the National Chevy Association, Chevrolet sold only 23,277 cars of your model in 1950 out of a total production of 1.25 million. The Deluxe Styleline 4-door sedan was the most popular model with 316,412 sold.
The "Special" series was aimed at commercial users who tended to put lots of miles on them with minimal maintenance, so it's likely that even fewer remain than is indicated by the production numbers. In this case rarity does not equate to value. It is rare because it was unattractive at the time, and it still is. However, rarity does mean it would stand out on the show field where most of the cars are over-restored with more chrome and accessories than would have been found on the average Chevrolet of the period. This one should be restored with blackwall tires and without accessories as it would have been found in its day.
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Gastonia, North Carolina 2006
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I wonder what his insurance carrier thinks about shipping a nice El Dorado convertible with the top down on an open trailer.
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I'm confused. Not a Kaiser/Frazer person, but I thought the 1950 Frazer Manhattan was the 4-door convertible and "faux" convertible with a soft top and glass door posts. The convertible and "faux" convertible are unique and desirable cars. This one seems to be a run-of-the-mill 4-door sedan.
A Kaiser Virginian, the Kaiser version of the Frazer Manhattan was recently offered in this forum for a much more reasonable price. Click on the link for photos.
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Does anyone know how much the Packard brought?
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I had a 4-cylinder Chrysler with 2-wheel brakes. It was a good utilitarian car and would make a dependable driver, but be aware, it was old technology even in its day. The Chrysler model numbers were said to represent top speed. In 1928 you could buy a Model 52 (4-cylinder) or models 62, 72 and 80 (I believe) , all 6-cylinder models. My Model 52 would run 52 mph if you push it but was not happy doing it. I always considered it to be a Model T at heart. And remember how you used to lock the rear brake on your bicycle and the bike would skid along seemingly even speeding up? That's the feeling you get when you step hard on the brake pedal of a car with 2-wheel brakes. It stops, but your heart might skip a beat
The 6-cylinder Chryslers were leaders in technology. The 4-cylinder models were old tech even in their day. Chrysler bought out Maxwell in about 1925 and the 4-cylinder Chryslers were essentially Maxwells in Chrysler clothing.
I'm not disparaging the 4-cylinder Chrysler/Maxwell. It was a sturdy, dependable, long-lasting vehicle, but be aware there is a vast difference between it and the "true" Chryslers.
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Several are listed on EBay, but not for $7.
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They're still used today. Photo from a couple of weeks ago.
and another from 2016.
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All Chevrolets of that era had gravel guards, I believe. All of the cars pictured above are DeLuxe models with chrome gravel guards, chrome trim on the front fenders and around the windows as well as upgraded interiors.
Courtesy of the internet is this photo of a 1949 Chevrolet "Special" 2-door sedan for comparison. This is the base level trim. Note the rubber gravel guards, rubber window trim in place of chrome and lack of fender trim. The interior of the "Special" included only a single sunvisor and armrest for the driver with a very plain steering wheel and upholstery.
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3 hours ago, The 55er said:
The green Chevrolet in both pictures is a 1949 or a 1950 Fleetline since it is a fastback. The Bel Air was a 2-door hardtop model that came out in 1950.
The 55er is correct, 1949 or 1950 Chevrolet Fleetline 4-door sedan.
The Fleetine fastback had a sloping rear deck. This is a 1951 Fleetline 2-door sedan.
The Styleline had a notchback rear deck. This is a 1951 Styleline 2-door sedan.
The Bel Air came out in 1950 as a 2-door hardtop. This is a 1951 Bel Air. with the "Convertible" style roofline and missing door post. Later, (1953) Bel Air became the name of the top of the line Chevrolet series with a full line of body styles.
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You can't see the golf club door or hood louvres on this Oldsmobile, but the top, landau bars and door hinges match . Picture taken in 1958.
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Wow! How'd we do that? Went from a flathead powered electric car to a Hispano-Suiza powered speed boat in less than 10 posts. I'm sensing an idea for a new contest.
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Why does this electric have a tailpipe? Because the owner dropped a V-8 in it -- a Ford 60 Flathead. Photos from a 1957 July 4 parade.
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And thanks for taking the time to note the make and model of the autos which are not familiar to many of us. It is nice to view the cars and scenery, but your commentary makes it a learning experience.
Don
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1 hour ago, Tom Boehm said:
Do Google images of a Thomas Flyer. They had hood ornaments like that.
1911 Thomas Flyer mascot.
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I'm afraid this one would be closer to my price range.
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On 4/6/2022 at 10:04 AM, StanleyRegister said:
I love these pictures, but I can't get back to them once they are first seen. The true service would be to find a platform that would store photos and allow efficient thumbnails, scrolling, and searching. It would be even better if it allowed community annotation, to gradually improve the ID situation. Then move all these pictures to that. Then the effort that all these people have put in for all these years would actually be permanently available and accessible, and not buried like the Lost Ark at the end of the first movie. :-).
Well said, StanleyRegister. My sentiments exactly. The same applies the entire forum and also the photo gallery. How about posting this under "General Topics" and maybe some folks would have suggestions as to how it could be done.
I have on my PC a few thousand photos of antique cars I've take over the last six decades. Nearly all are identified by make and year in the file name, with the model if I know it. A few years ago, I loaded several hundred of them into the AACA gallery. I created folders for the specific show (Hershey, Autofair, GN, etc.), labeled each photo with make and year, alphabetized the entries and posted them in reverse order so that they appeared in the correct order when viewed. I also added key search words where applicable. This took several hours to do and, I was happy that they would be available to researchers in the future. However, over the years since than they have all disappeared from the web site and now reside only in my PC. My wife has made it clear that when I go, my PC goes. No one is interested in this collection as far as I can tell.
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1 hour ago, alsancle said:
Sorry Steve. Not that I know of. I’ll try to identify some of them, I’m sort of in the same boat as you. If you see one you’re wondering about asking I’ll go over and look at the name plate
An easy way to "remember" is to photograph the name plate (or the windshield info sheet at car shows) as you are doing the car. It only takes a minute and costs nothing with digital cameras. That way you can look back at it years later and see what it is.
Thanks for posting these. Pictures are always appreciated.
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I'm sure it could have been worse, but it's hard to imagine how.
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3 hours ago, Restorer32 said:
I thought the Henry J had the pointed roof on the front above the windshield or am I confused? Always reminded me of the haircut the kid from That Adams Family had.
This is the one you're thinking about, a full-sized Kaiser in this case a 1951 "Dragon" at Hershey, 2018.
And here are some Henry J's in an Iowa collectors field about 20 years ago --- some with trunk lids, some without.
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'27 Chrysler $13K
in "Not Mine" Automobiles For Sale
Posted · Edited by DLynskey
Clarification (see edit history)
The seller described the body as "all steel". Not true unless I'm mistaken. The seller might mean "all steel" as opposed to fiberglass, but these Chryslers were made of wood structure (as were most other cars of the era) with metal covering the wood. All the top and door posts were wood. The body seems to be in good shape on this car, so it's not a problem, but a buyer should understand what he is buying.
Photos are of a 1928 Model 52 Landau sedan.
Don