Dynaflash8

It was $500 for two 35 Buick bumpers and four bumper guards here in Richmond, VA. For steel bumpers I usually use a bumper plater. Keystone did the best bumper work for me over the years, up in Baltimore. But I think they are out of business now. John Packard do you know? For other stuff I go to a plater who doesn't advertise, Procino Plating in Blades, DE.

Now we need to get this thred to the VP Publications. RF the problem is cost. But suppose there was a separate little "events newsletter" packaged with each magazine that did what you suggest? Never heard that suggested before.<BR>On the point of advertising. If and where a National Meet or Tour is to be held, why couldn't the sponsoring Region or Chapter advertise in local area one car and independent club newsletters/magazines about six months prior that they are having this event, and say that only AACA members can participate, but invite those other club's non-AACA members to join AACA so they car participate? That may help introduce more folks to AACA.<BR>If there is a rule against outside advertising of tours, rules are made to be changed when necessary.

Thanks for the thought Mike. But think it would just make a gooey mess that way, not a runny liquid. Obviously something takes the old stuff out so you can put the new stuff in, but golly that's a miserable job. I was was looking for the EZ-Out of course

Terry I did all those things (or 4 out of 5 anyway) right here. Started a Region. Have gone from 5 to 105 national members in the area. Yes, it works. But, when I first began talking with my post and Howard followed with his, the converstation was aimed at growing the West. How to? I wonder if those of us who have always lived in the East understand what may be different attitudes or needs by folks out West. So, I wanted some of them to tell some of us if those things exist. I think Deering, Tod, Big Bird, the fellow in El Paso, Howard, all of them have made some great point/suggestions here. And, yes, Howard, it would be a good idea to print these threads out for use by an appropriate VP or VPs.

I live in constant fear of contacting ethanolitis in my old '39 Buick. It still has the "old" type sealer in the gastank installed in 1979. All I need is a dose of ethanol and I've got total gummup.<P>I'd planned to drop the tank and try to get it cleaned (where can I get that done down here in the boonies) and then put in the new stuff, but too many other projects...maybe next year. <P>Wonder if I could put the new stuff in overtop of the old stuff? Any body know if I can do that?

This was just passed to me tonight by Jack Disher of the Roanoke Valley Region, AACA. Am just posting for DF interest and/or concern<P>Attention Hotrodders And Classic<BR> Car Owners<P> The California SB42 Smog<BR> Exemption Is In Jeopardy<P> The California Air Resources Board Final Smog Check II<BR> Evaluation came out in July 2000. CARB states that they<BR> did not meet the Federal Ozone SIP Requirements. As a<BR> result California Air Resources Board is Recommending --<BR> Chapter VI:<P> Improved identification of gross polluters and more<BR> stringent vehicle repairs. <BR> Sending more vehicles to Test-Only (Ping Pong:<BR> Test-Only, Test & Repair, Test-Only Certification) <BR> Implement more stringent inspection standards.<BR> (Tighten Smog Test cut points and implement full<BR> repair - Possible elimination of repair waiver and<BR> hardship extension). <BR> Expand the areas in the Enhanced I/M program<BR> (dynamometer) and number of vehicles so tested. <BR> Eliminate 30-year rolling exemption and<BR> 1966-1973 biennial smog exemption.<BR> Possible Annual Smog Testing of older<BR> vehicles. Remember a new vehicle is<BR> exempt from Smog Test the first four<BR> years of its life. The new vehicle<BR> exemption may be extended to six years.<BR> AB1105 -- 1999 <P> SB1811<P> SB1811(State Senator Johannessen -- Phone:<BR> (916) 445-3353, FAX: (916) 445-7750, no email) would<BR> cap the SB42 smog exemption at 1974 as the Catalytic<BR> Converter came in to use in 1975. SB1811 is sponsored<BR> by Association of California Car Clubs and supported by<BR> SEMA. We don't need it. It is in the Assembly<BR> Appropriations Committee to be heard on August 9, 2000.<BR> Contact Assembly Member Carole Migden<BR> (Assemblymember.migden@assembly.ca.gov, Phone:<BR> (916) 319-2013, FAX: (916) 319-2113).<P> What does this mean to you?<P> If your 1966-1973 vehicle was"False Failed" in the<BR> past as a result of "MISINFORMATION" in the<BR> "Mandated Smog Manuals" you may beRevisiting<BR> the same situation all over again. If you modified your<BR> Engine Emissions Configuration you may not pass the<BR> Visual Test. Contact your state legislators and local<BR> officials in the front of your phone book and tell them No.<BR> There are no other legislative alternatives.<P> Remote Sensing<P> Even if repeal of the SB42 Classic Car Exemption is<BR> defeated, no vehicle is exempt from remote sensing. If you<BR> do not meet the Remote Sensing Smog Cut Points you may<BR> receive a letter from the state requiring a Smog Test and be<BR> forced to put a Tamper Proof Decal on your vehicle<BR> preventing further engine modification.REMOTE<BR> SENSING will even bring HOTRODDERS in<BR> to the Smog System.<P> What If You Don't Pass Your Smog Check?<P> If your registration expires, your vehicle may be taken from<BR> your property under California Abatement Laws and<BR> crushed. As a result cities, counties and the state can issue<BR> Smog Pollution Credits which industrial polluters may be<BR> forced to buy. Your crushed vehicle goes to pay for<BR> industrial pollution. California Air Resources<BR> Board wants only factory stock late model<BR> vehicles on the road.<P> Read about it at<BR> <A HREF="http://www.smogrfg.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.smogrfg.com</A> <P> The public deserves a more consumer friendly and effective<BR> Smog Prevention Program. COPY AND<BR> DISTRIBUTE THIS TO A FRIEND / LOCAL<BR> OFFFICIAL / LEGISLATOR. Remember this<BR> is an election year.<P> Since "1/15/97" You Are Visitor Number: <P><BR>

I live in constant fear of contacting ethanolitis in my old '39 Buick. It still has the "old" type sealer in the gastank installed in 1979. All I need is a dose of ethanol and I've got total gummup.<P>I'd planned to drop the tank and try to get it cleaned (where can I get that done down here in the boonies) and then put in the new stuff, but too many other projects...maybe next year. Wonder if I could put the new stuff in overtop of the old stuff? <p>[This message has been edited by Dynaflash8 (edited 08-06-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TodFitch:<BR><B>Dynaflash8 -- I take your answer as a "yes". By the way, I didn't "drive the living heck out of" the 33. I only put 40,000 miles on it in 4 years. Cars were built to be driven </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And I admired you for it!

Editor: <BR>Earl D. Beauchamp, Jr.<BR>Northern Neck'n Antique Autos News<BR>Northern Neck Region AACA<P> <p>[This message has been edited by Dynaflash8 (edited 08-06-2000).]

One more thing. A Buick Straight 8 will run hot if it has retarded spark. Check the timing too

That shouldn't be necessary, really. You've got a 7 pound cap on the radiator, right? Have you checked the by-pass valve in the thermostat housing? You rid yourself of that valve on a '41 by switching to a '48-49 thermostat housing, which has no valve. Often the valve begins to fail and will cause overheating. At least take it apart and clean it. There is no reason for a '41 to overheat unless there is a problem. Is the radiator clean? Is the block clogged? <BR> Also check the hoses to be sure one hasn't gotten weak and is sucking shut. But, the first place I'd look is that thermostat housing by-pass valve.<BR> Earl Beauchamp

Deering, good thoughts, good response. Hope you meet you at Aptos. Look for an old white haired guy in a royal blue baseball cap lurking around classes 20C-F and 26A-B most of the day. haha. We can kick tires about this face to face then if you'd like.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill Stoneberg:<BR><B>I too did not ever hear of the AACA until I started lurking around this forum. Since I have found you all I have joined and have talked to the answering machine of the local chapter a couple of times but have not gotten an answer.<BR>I wish there were more events down in the Southwest (TX, LA, NM) so I could participate. But this is a problem I have with the BCA too so its not unusual.<BR>Anything I can do to help in this effort, would make me and my wife happy. We enjoy the shows and events we have been to in the other parts of the country.<BR>Bill </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't know where you are Bill, but LA is pretty active and we have a Divisional Tour coming up there next year in the Baton Rouge area. As for Texas, there are a couple of really active Regions in Texas. Last year the Region in Paris, TX put on a National Meet and it was terrific. Glad you found us.<BR>

CMJ: I go back 38 years in AACA. Read my comments in the other post. Kids were always welcome in the Chesapeake Region where Howard , John Packard and I started. We took our kids everywhere except the club meeting and that was my once a month babysitter night. AACA has always been a family club, and one more thing. AACA is the only organization I've ever been in where lawyers, doctors, plummers and carpenters and all in between are bought together and one, all friends, no status, because they love the cars. And although that may sound like pie in the sky, it has always really been true. <BR> But this thread is about HOW TO GET AACA MORE RECOGNITION AND MEMBERSHIP IN THE WEST.<BR>Maybe I should suggest the other thread that I started to continue discussion of the younger member aspect.<p>[This message has been edited by Dynaflash8 (edited 08-05-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaveF:<BR><B>I am a life member of the AACA and have been associated since I was about 4 years old. Back then you could get rides in cars, steam , brass, whatever. In El Paso there is a HCCA, and these birds did everything they could to drive members kids out of the hobby. I have never seen a more degenerate bunch! This seems to be all to much the norm around the country. Greedy old men to stuck on their cars to share them with the younger generations and to discuss them with them. If I hurt some feelings here, so be it. There needs to be a drastic change of attitude with some collectors.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I will assume you are talking about children, i.e. 16 and under. Are you aware that AACA has developed youth organization with its own newsletter, "Wheels"? Have you been to a National Meet in the last 3-4 years, where children are gathered together and one of our club leaders dissects a car with them...this program is called "the car and its parts"? The current man doing this is a genius with kids that age. I've never seen anything like it. <BR> It may very well depend on where a person lives as to whether they are close enough to attend things and see what National is trying to do for children. And too, if the children are enthusiastic, it is likely their young adult parents will be more interested and it is those people we must look to to lead the club as we who lead it now age.<BR> Consider this. You could start a new AACA Region in your immediate area with only 15 members. You could be a real leader, and in so doing, mold that Region along the lines you espouse. When I retired I moved to an area with 5 AACA members. My wife and I drove over 1,000 miles finding people with old cars. We called a meeting at our home, paid for the refreshments and formed the club. I was first president, first meet chairman, still am editor and we have over 100 member families now. We are sponsoring a Divisional Tour next year. That isn't bragging. I'm making a point. If you want something to happen, you have to put your own neck onto the chopping block and be willing to give years of your life to your cause.<BR> By the way, I used to travel to El Paso on business and I loved the place.<p>[This message has been edited by Dynaflash8 (edited 08-05-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TodFitch:<BR><B>Dynaflash8 -- Just curious: I'm trying to place people I might have known in the Chesapeake Region in the mid-1970s. Are your real initials E B? ~~Tod</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And did you drive the living heck out of a 1933 Plymouth? haha

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dave@Moon:<BR><B>Dynaflash, if you click on the "search" icon under the posting buttons at the top of this page and have this site's search engine look up the various threads which have "young people" in the title, you'll find at least a full evening's interesting reading on just this subject. Enjoy, but don't expect much of a plot to develope! </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The story is, to what age are those folks referring to as "young people"? AACA has a great program for very young people. But, what do we do to keep their interest (and involvement) after they get into college, early marriage, early house buying and new kids? Those things often draw away young people's interest due to money concerns. I think if the "drivers" category under consideration becomes fact, that may help. But as an old codger now, I'm not sure I understand what might excite the younger people. It's probably not a big old '48 Buick Super sedan, which excites me! As for looking anything up, well, I just tuned in here a couple of days ago<p>[This message has been edited by Dynaflash8 (edited 08-03-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rcirilli:<BR><B>As long as my delete key works I don't have many fears. I regularly update my virus scan and don't open items I don't recognize. I do however think that "Members Only" location has some merit for recruitment. That requires some more thought as to utility. Most of what we disburse doesn't need concelled anyway. Heck, most of the time we love to have free advertising. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The delete key isn't enough. I picked up a worm from an AACA friend who didn't know they picked it up from SPAM. Recently another AACA acquaintance in AZ sent a worm, unknowingly to everybody on his addee list, automatically. I didn't know him well enough and didn't open it, but another AACA friend did and had a time getting rid of it. Don't tell me about junk mail and SPAM. No, not from DF, never, not yet, but from someplace else, I don't know where. So, now I keep my email address as close to the vest as possible. And like the other man said, if it isn't friends and acquaintances, I use "hotmail" for any email correspondence.

Ronbarn: One good sales pitch is insurance, both club and personal. Sometimes the personal insurers want you to be in a well known club as well as keep your car in a garage. <P>Deering: Those are great comments. I plan to copy down your five ideas. And I'll look forward to meeting you at Aptos. I used to know a lot of Californians from another club I was in, but I've sort of lost contact with most of them, some to that place in the sky. And, too I always hated sealed-beam converstions. I'm personally responsible for the 10-point deduction for sealed beams prior to 1940 on the judging form, many, many years ago, haha. Finally I'm a '38 model, so guess I'm 3 years younger than you. Howard's the old one here. haha

The 1941 Graham Hollywood, which was almost a carbon copy of the 1940 Hupmobile Skylark, which in turn was a take-off of the 1936-37 Cord (whose dies they purchased), was the last Graham. However, after WWII Graham's remaining company assets were joined to Henry Kaiser's desires and Kaiser-Fraser was born.

It strikes me that AACA is truly the heartbeat of our hobby. I wonder if all of you collectors out there nationwide think that is true? But, think of it, sixty-five years of trials, tribulations, learning and growing, building the largest membership in the hobby. As the largest organization in the world dedicated to the history of the automobile, perpetuated by events that foster the automobile's restoration, which result in the automobile's acclamation, AACA is in the forefront and an organization truly capable of leading our hobby into the new millenium. Consider what a force one automotive historical organization could have in this world if it included all of those interested in that history of the automobile. That may be a lot to ask, but not a lot to try for. What I wonder is, how many new ideas there are in this vast world of the internet on how that can happen? What ideas do you, John Q. Collector, have for interesting more "young people",let's say 25-50 years old who can carry us on into the future, but can<BR>begin their AACA trip now, not 15 years from now? I was 23 when I joined AACA. Each month our one night out with a babysitter was to attend the local AACA regional club meeting. The love of old cars became my lifetime interest and avocation. Or, how about all those thousands of Westerners, for example those thousands of California collectors? What would draw those folks closer and in larger numbers to membership in one, great, powerful organization like AACA? Or, specifically to AACA? Everybody should belong to their own one-car club, I have no qualms with that, but don't you think everybody should belong to one major umbrella club that brings all collectors together in one voice for our hobby? I think that's an honorable achievement to seek, don't you? Have you got any thoughts or ideas on how we can do it? They say ideas are like noses, everybody has one... .....wanna tell us yours?

Model A Hal your opinion has my vote all the way!

The question is, how many like me would refuse to give out their email to a general forum? You will note that where Directors' emails are listed, mine isn't. I hate the cascades of junkmail and advertisements for everthing under the sun that even now somehow sift into my inbox

I keep my email address a virtual secret to avoid ads, junkmail and possible viruses. I think this is not a good idea unless a person was to use something like a "hotmail" address. Somebody got my wife's name from somewhere and every day we get junkmail from somebody called "noreply" and I can't stop it. Absolutely, I would not provide my regular email address to a nationwide audience. It is somewhat hidden in this forum, but yet I still worry about the desimination of this personal information

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sherrel Thomas:<BR><B>Thanks Dynaflash8,I helped plan the First Founders Tour 1988 Huntsville,Al. The Southestern Div. Tour 1998. BEEN THERE DONE THAT for the past 40 years.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>