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A good friend has prompted me to my error that it isn't Rick on the waterpumps, it is Skip, here is the data, "I will do 10 or 12 sets at the same price as the Ford pumps. That is $200 per set plus S&H $15.00 for a total of
$215.00. I may have to increase them later as the cost and labor is more than the Ford types. Once the 10 or 12 people see how well they work word of mouth does the rest as far as repeat orders. This is how it worked with the Ford pumps. I have all the parts, worked out all the problems and they perform slightly better than expected which is always a good feeling. Every pump is tested on a machine and the pair are matched in output flow so there is no doubt how each set will work when shipped. I am ready to take orders and they will be returned in a week to 10 days from when I receive them. Thanks, Skip" skip@fordsrus.com
All's well that ends, Rolf
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I hate to say I have misplaced Rick's information, it must have got deleted by mistake, or is hiding in some cranny of my overloaded computer, maybe someone else has heard of him and has the info, sorry, Rolf
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If the problem persists, don't forget Rick's waterpumps, would like to hear some testimonials, but the test data on them is fantastic
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Oh Boy Bill, and I heard that they just used up all the rest of the '42 blocks in the '46's, and that they were tried unsuccessfully in WW2 tanks too, and the bore on 292's is 2 7/8, I really do know that, just a mild case of half-zeimers, as my old father in law used to say, "don't get old, you won't like it", and I think he was right, but thanks Bill, that makes another strong suggestion to go with the 2 15/16, and 331 CI, I like it!! Now if that crank stroking outfit that Jack mentioned will get in touch with me, we may have something brewing, Rolf
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Thanks guys, I have written to Dave Cole about this, hope he can shed some light too, the truth shall be known, eventually, Rolf
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The other thread is getting too long, the question that is plagueing me now is why Lincoln reverted back to 2 3/4 bore in '46, after having the 2 15/16 bore in 1942??? Were there inherent problems with the '42's?? Were they prone to overheat?? There must be some reason, does anyone know?? Thanks, Rolf
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Hey Bill, in your question about your '46, I will defer to my friend Dee Peecher, who is doing a sedan right now, but apparently there was a lot of turmoil going on right after the end of WW2, that was Aug '45, and it doubtlessly took them a while to get up and running and making '46 Lincolns, so that probally explains the delay, he was telling me of a 1948 owners manual that is dated Nov 1, 1947. As far as long drives, I drove my '41 Connie from LA to Detroit MI in 2 days without the OD, talk about a buzzed V-12, and the same for the return trip, we got our kicks on route 66 in 1956. see pic The guy this engine will be for lives in Texas, and he loves to drive, this V-12 will be coupled to a AOD transmission, and late Lincoln rearend, which are the exact width of our old ones, and the wheels and tires fit within the skirts perfectly, what is concerning me now is if anyone knows of anyone with a '42 having heating or any other problems because of the 3/16 larger bore that they abandoned in your year of 1946?? Wonder if all will ever be known about these cars?? Rolf
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Hi Bill, at last a voice of reason, what a relief!! That method has been tried, several times, once by a friend of mine in my early days of Zephyring in 1954, this thing was in a '41 3 window, was wet sleeved on a number of cylinders, and I personally watched this big old LZ turn 104 MPH in the 1/4 mile, at the Pomona drag strip, the owners name was Gil Younger, and I would be interested if any one ever heard of him, or knows what happened to him, but this is not quite what my client today wants, he wants to travel 350 miles a day, have absolutely no hassles, have AC, PS, PB, and have the most bulletproof efficient V-12 possible, not much to ask, right?? Thanks for the input Bill, Rolf
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Sorry guys, I did not intend to wreck your forum here, you can lay that blame where you will, I will go away now, Rolf
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Better to be grumpy than just plain stupid, that is not a quote, it is an observation, Rolf
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On a lighter note, got out the calculator this morning, and did a little figuring, if we sroked this thing a 1/4 to make it 4", and had the stock 292 bore of 2 3/4, that would give 317.5 Cubic inches, if we went '42 bore at 2 15/16, probally the largest bore possible and still have it cool and absolutely reliable, that would give 330.5 CI, so on a totally blueprinted engine with solid lifters a mild 3/4 cam, big valves and enhanced porting for breathing, and enough carburetion, leaning toward a 650 CFM or 750 Holley, but here again as on everything, I am open to all of your thoughts, thanks for working with me here, Rolf
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Excuse me all to Hell Dave, if you are going to bother to quote someone, it would seem logical you agree with them, or is that just another random idiosyncrasy of Florida Folks to just quote any old thing whether you agree with it or not, please, give me a break, Rolf
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Good advice Jack, duly noted, keep them coming, Rolf
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Yes, I had figured on sleeving all 12 cylinders, then reboring to 2 3/4" completely square with the crank, I had figured also on hard chroming the crank journals and turning them to standard Lincoln, I am kind of leery of a welded stroker crank, don't want to tempt fate, but will consider it, my main deviation is to try to have some of these new silicone 0 expansion pistons made for it, so I can run really close tolerances on the pistons, any expertise most welcome here, considering some flathead valve tricks to enhance the breathing, 30 degree seats on the intakes etc, maybe hard seats on all 24, also pondering whether to go progressive linkage 3 carb, or a 650 CFM Holley 4 barrel carb. Big Melling oil pump, extra careful balance on everything, and just a polish on all the ports, but am still gathering info and ideas, so I sure appreciate the input, thanks again, Rolf
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I will ask you the same question as I did Dave, why stroke a V-12?? And use the weaker 91A or 21A rods to do it? They do not fit right in a V-12 anyway, but thank you for the input, I will put it in the file to peruse at length, I want to grind a solid lifter cam to Winfield R1 Specs, do you think Mr. Crane would be up to this?? I am presently thinking silicone pistons to allay the expansion problem so prevalent in V-12's, the ignition I hope Jake Fleming will do his superb best, as he always does, to make it as bulletproof as possible, thanks so much for your imput, will put it in the file, and study it carefully, Rolf
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You are the last person I would ever have thought to respond to this question Dave, but I thank you anyway, although I wonder why in the world you would stroke a V-12, that already has more torque and less RPM than anything comparable, maybe you will be good enough to enlighten me if I have not offended you, I will put your comments in the file I am building, thank you, Rolf
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A friend of mine with some bucks has asked me to build him an ultimate V-12
for his '47 Lincoln, I have been dreaming of the opportunity for a long time
and have made copious notes on the subject, but I would really like some input from all of you, as to what you would do to make a V-12 better, if cost was not an object, thanks a lot, Rolf
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Thanks Diz, have put it out to a number of people, some agree it is worth a try, a good deal more say "it won't do any good, the oil companies are too strong" and like pronouncements, just like a bunch of lemmings ready to take a swim, as it is too much effort to think for themselves, but tomorrow is the day, for what it is worth, Rolf
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Oh yes, I am still here Cece, but just a lurker now, will enter in with a comment now and again, take enough abuse in my normal activities, am not up to it here, Rolf
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I ditto and verify everything Art said, well put, and succinct Art, Rolf
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Carburetors now priced at $200 each plus shipping for 5 lbs from 95062, all are thoroughly re-conditioned and tested on a V-12, Rolf
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Trying to determine the make of this long hooded beast, thanks, Rolf
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Just an update on the carburetors, they have been thoroughly re-conditioned and tested on a V-12, have both early and late, with either 3 or 4 hole mounting bases, they are for sale, if interested write me at rolf@sasquatch.com Thanks a lot, Rolf
Overheating.. could it be the head gasket
in Lincoln & Zephyr
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More details on Skip's water pumps, Subject: V-12 WATER PUMPS
Posted by GM on Jan-23-04 at 04:01PM
Skip is now rebuilding the V-12 pumps with many improvements. He is installing the new turbine impeller for improved water flow that results in better cooling, stainless steel shaft, modern seal and an addition seal in the rear of the bearing to protect it from water damage. We completed a set for my 47 Continental coupe late yesterday and they came out really good. They will go on the water pump test machine Monday to check for water flow and leaks under pressure. We did an old pump I had laying around the shop last week and worked out all the details and tested it so we know what the results will be. Following testing install it on the engine and road test. A lot of people have inquired over the last year about him doing the Lincoln pumps but he was not ready. It takes a lot of tooling and fixtures to rework the pumps to a uniform consistant quality product. He now has all the tooling and parts and is ready to go. These will solve most of the cooling problems as his V-8 pumps have on those models. Contact Skip for info. skip@fordsrus.com G.M.
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Subject: RE: V-12 WATER PUMPS
Posted by GM on Jan-30-04 at 01:52PM
In response to message #0
We ran the V/12 yesterday with the modified pumps. The radiator looked dirty looking down through the neck so we put in a large bottle of Prestone flush and a cup or more of Simple Green and ran it for an hour at a fast idle which ran at 195-200, drained it and flushed with fresh water. We then added 2 gallons of Texaco long life anti-freeze, 2 bottles of purple ice, a bottle of Barrs leak and a bottle of water pump lubricant topped of with water.This is the mixture I put in all my cars. After 15 minutes it went up to 175-180, stayed there for 15 or 20 minutes and slowly started to drop. We left it run at a fairly fast idle for several hours with a window type box fan in front of the grill. Out side temperaure was about 75 or a little higher and the car was parked in the garage. After about 2 hours the temperature was at 145 degrees on the cylinder heads just below the spark plug recess. All cylinders were within 2 or 3 degrees of each other. There were no thermoststs or any resrictors to reduce the water flow. Both pumps produces 110 gallons fo water in 5 minutes being perfectly matched. This contributes to the even heat pattern on both sides. This car prior to the change would run very high in temperature when driven and would boil over if left at idle for any lenth of time. G.M.