Dave Mitchell
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Have a 39 and a 41 sold at Packard Chicago, Berry Motors was in St Louis in the 30s
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Don Motors was also in Rock Island, in the late 20s
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another of my cars was sold at Packard Evanston, (IL) in 1935
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The dealer in Rock Island, IL was Eddie Gippert in the late 30s - to the 50s
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Another PA dealer - my 41 leBaron sport brougham was sold at Packard Lackawana in PA
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One of my cars, a 1941 was sold at Morgan Motors, on Colorado Blvd in Pasadena. The dealership is still there and very well preserved - now an Acura dealership. Bohman & Schwartz bought some of the cars that they used for custom bodies there.
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from the looks of the manifold it is late 20s or very early 30s.
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While the 59s may look 25 feet long, I don't think that they are quite - I hauled one in my enclosed trailer for my brother's boss and my trailer is only 24' long and there was room on both ends. It was rather wide though, seems like I couldn't open the doors when the car was in the trailer. My 34 V16 is over 20 feet long, not sure how wide it is.
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I think I have some photos of my 46 which was all original in the trunk. It seems like it was flocked all over, and had a rubber mat on top of the flocked fiber one. email me and I will see if I can find them for you or put you in touch with the new owner. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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The leBaron Speedster could only manage a 3rd in class at Pebble, and I guess that for the price of it you could have had entire fleets of the two cars that beat it, a Lincoln and a Cord. Oh well.
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Hi, I too enjoy the period photos of big classics and I have some for the 32 - 34 customs and would be glad to trade. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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If you are ever looking through those Harrah auction catalogs, and you happen to see a 1941 Packard 1905 (model 160, 148" wheelbase)custom bodied limo in really bad condition, I would like to know what the date was of the auction and how much it brought. I think it was sold at one of the first auctions, perhaps even just before Harrah died. It has a Bohman & Schwartz body, but Harrah never researched it, so they didn't know who the coachbuilder was.
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The Silver Arrows are striking cars. Photos don't really do them justice either - it is amazing when you see one in person, particularly when you think of it in context with the other cars on the road in 1933.
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Hi Rolf, I would post a photo of the Zephyr, but I am looking for that one for a friend who has more important issues to deal with just now, and I am no Lincoln expert. He told me that he needed one, and I thought I would try to find it and if it wasn't too expensive, surprise him with it. I will look at my Continental and see what it looks like. Thanks so much. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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For sale, 1942 Lincoln Continental Cabriolet, $17,500 packard12s@hotmail.com
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wanted - hood side script for 1942 Zephyr and 1942 Continental - are these repoped? Thanks, Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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The Cad V16 Aero coupes were initially designed for the GM exhibit at the 33/34 Chicago World's Fair - the same body was used later as the basic design of the V16 didn't change until the new series in 1938. If there are similarities to the Lincoln Zephyr, it may be that the designers saw cars like the Cad and the MB 500 and 540K Autobahn Courier Coupes and were influenced by them. No dig at the LZ, which is a neat car, but just a timeline observation.
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This does look like Hispano, but I think it is automotive. It is probably European anyway. The H series Hispanos suffer from problems with the blocks as they are alloy and antifreeze solutions weren't formulated to be compatible with them among other things. I would guess that this is no longer in a car for a good reason. There is a group of Hispano owners who got together a couple years ago to cast some new blocks since so many originals were bad. I can perhaps help you to positively id this. Do you have any other photos? Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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I never had the opportunity to see the Harrah collection, but the NAHC museum that is in Reno now has perhaps over 200 cars from the Harrah days, and it is a nice museum, thoughtfully laid out and showcasing a number of one of a kind cars and some very significant automobiles - such as the round the world race winning Thomas Flyer and the Phantom Corsair by Bohman & Schwartz. There are big classics like a MB Special Roadster, Hispano Suiza J12 sedan with the lines of a coupe, Al Jolson's 33 Cad 16 All Weather Phaeton, 38 Packard 12 Coupe Roadster, etc along with early cars, race cars, 50s and 60s cars. One display that I liked was a late 20s or early 30s used car lot. I saw it in 1998 and it has probably changed by now, but it surely is worth seeing if you are anywhere near there.
I am lucky enough to own an ex Harrah collection car, which is sort of fun. People still know and respect that collection even though Harrah has been gone quite a while.
Dave Mitchell
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I have some period photos of the Vincent Speedster that I can copy for you if you like. There is also a recreation of the car, possibly built with some of the original pieces. Not sure where it is now. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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I think I have these. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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I have judged at CCCA events and at several concours including Pebble Beach. At Pebble you can show top up or down, whatever you think is the best advantage for your car. As judges we are allowed to ask an owner to either put down a top that is up to make sure it will fold, or put up a top that is down to make sure it looks nice. I have never seen a judge at Pebble do either, and I can say that I doubt that any judge there would make a deduction for a wrinkled top. With modern materials, I don't think that it is a huge problem anyway. CCCA requires that power tops work and I have never seen anyone move their top more than half an inch, so I don't think most judges are overly critical.
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I think that most convertibles look better with the top down. I have a 41 160 convertible and I haven't seen the top for years. My 37 has no top on it, and so far I haven't missed it. I do like the 32 - 34 coupe roadsters either way, but most guys are so afraid that their top material will get a wrinkle in it that they never, ever put them down, if they will even go down, so you seldom see them. These same guys would cut the top off of a coupe and make it into a roadster to have a convertible. Often the top designs look like an afterthought or a necessary evil. I think that showing a Packard Darrin, Auburn Speedster, or Mercedes Benz Special roadster, or disappearing top Murphy roadster Model J with the top up should get an automatic 5 point deduction, the same for most Ferraris. The big convertible sedans to me look longer and lower and like great parade cars with the top down, and there again, you seldom see one with the top down, so it is even more interesting when you do. The late 30s Packard convertibles have lower windshields than the sedans and this is accentuated when you put the top down. The 35 - 39 convertible sedans look particularly elegant topless to me, along with the 34 - 37 Cad V16s, they look a block long. I think that the same goes for town cars. I think that my town car was completely transformed when I opened the top up, and I never close it. Having a rumble seat is pretty cool for the neighbors who never see such a thing otherwise, and it is fun to see them, but the lines are probably cleaner with the lid down.
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Can you send me a photo of what the latches look like? I have some that I am not sure what they fit. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
How many Packard Dealerships in your area
in Packard
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My 37 was sold at Mountain Motors in Denver - I know they were in business in the early 30s also