Jump to content

Gary W

Members
  • Posts

    1,060
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    14

Posts posted by Gary W

  1. Hi Norman!

    You are correct, the shorter side goes forward, the longer side (about 9+ inches longer) goes to the rear shackle.

     

    DSC_0896.JPG.6261b09a51815617f25172340c218306.JPG

    The original springs with the tin covers still intact.

     

     

    DSC_0559.JPG.569a51058542783d61bef163e61d523d.JPG

    These are the new leaf springs from EATON.

     

    Be sure to tighten down those "U"bolts when installing.  I relied on an impact wrench and thought they were tight enough.  Get a torque wrench on those nuts.

     

    Gary

    • Like 1
  2. 3 hours ago, Tomas said:

    Is it also a Buick -36

    I have a ‘37.  Ended up replacing both rear leaf springs.  New set from Eaton and they are great.  Be sure you torque them to spec when installed and check again after a couple hundred miles.  Once all my suspension parts were restored/replaced, I think the best thing I did was to take the car to the “Front End Shop“ in Farmingdale for a four-wheel alignment.  Amazing how beautifully she runs after that. 
     

    Here’s how I bought the car.  The rear leaf is cracked and protruding though the gaiter.
     

    IMG_8843.jpeg.383771c12872a1aa71a07d3c1feb73f0.jpeg
     

    search my restoration for “springtime”.  The whole process is documented... just touch the arrow!

    gary

    • Like 4
  3. From my '37 manual:

     

    Screenshot2024-03-20at1_23_23PM.png.263eb49033e73cb8880f8717fe76063a.png

     

    The timing chain has marks that are exactly 10 LINKS apart.  These must align with the marks  on the gears.

     

     

    Screenshot2024-03-20at1_24_21PM.png.db52febe9556e0fd2d74a414a3e1c873.png

     

     

    Screenshot2024-03-20at1_23_56PM.png.afd294c670c3c75f8276b31289ab7ac0.png

    The book on the left, my actual engine on the right displaying the proper alignment of the timing chain.

    • Like 2
  4. On 10/12/2022 at 12:37 PM, Bloo said:

    Dwell that does not come out as it should at the specified point gap is usually a different problem, points cam wear. Think about it, for the right amount of "on" time, the rubbing block on the points needs to open the points by contacting the cam at the right place on the lobe. When we set the points with a feeler gauge, we are not using that same point on the lobe. We are using the highest point on the lobe. The highest point probably wears down the fastest with use.

     

    If the lobe is worn down, you would need a narrower points gap to wind up with the correct dwell. Within reason, this is OK. If the cam wear is too much, the gap will just not be wide enough when the dwell is set. You get the same sort of symptoms as you would get by setting the gap too close, like points arcing, points burning up too soon, lousy idle, etc. If you instead set the points gap to spec with a feeler gauge, the points will come into contact with the cam early. They will open early and close late and there will not be enough dwell. That translates to not enough coil "on" time. The main result is a weak spark at higher RPM.

     

    I think 3 degrees is probably in the margin of error and doesn't necessarily indicate any problem. You also seem to be off in the wrong direction to blame it on wear. If the dwell meter is doing what it should, I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

     

    IMG_7608.jpg.a6550d7b2d64b1bc395836d1b936524b.jpg

    The Buick manual says you can expect a 2-degree change in the cam dwell angle when using new points.

     

     

    On 10/22/2022 at 8:03 AM, Rock10 said:

    Does anyone know what the end play on the distributor should be?

    IMG_7607.jpg.fcc8675c76e28f3051a90a984a0a8a2b.jpg

    The manual specifies .002 to .007 end play of the shaft.

     

    • Like 2
  5. John was a class act.  Always friendly, down to earth and truly a gentleman in every sense of the word.  For those of us lucky enough to live here in Monmouth County, NJ, a trip to John's "Backdoor Garage" was the thrill of the year.  I say garage.  This place put many museums to shame!  On top of the awesome cars, the amazing decor and the over-the-top hospitality from John and Jill, it was a "never-miss" trip!  

     

    I took my sons to see the cars a couple years ago.  Allow me to share some photos.  You'll see in an instant why we looked forward to our yearly visit!

     

     

    IMG_5934.JPG.36d56a9a52dd03a07b9fab8214e42dc2.JPG

    John...  The ultimate host!  In his garage hosting our local club.

     

     

    DSC_0733.JPG.09e34646dbf26aa1f4b3ac91b5613bf1.JPG

    The wall decor was like an old street.

     

     

    IMG_5931.JPG.a3ea7ee266c64e34b8a4aa9a06680d38.JPG

    Club members checking out all the cars

     

     

    DSC_0757.JPG.403b5867a05d5324ffda255e908748f7.JPG

    "Abraham"......  His Lincoln.  They all had great names!

     

     

    IMG_5924.JPG.f96b09da4ddf97c503714a0bac5148b4.JPG

    His Duesy.  Stunning

     

     

    DSC_0735.JPG.80ebadb3256e940b1a576805bbcd8adf.JPG

     

     

     

    IMG_8121.JPG.afbb0347b0c07d14448c3252550c33a2.JPG

    Here is the Duesenberg at a local fund raising event held on the grounds of another club member.  The car had a crowd all day.

     

     

    IMG_8124.JPG.dd77cd753af90a984ff4e845aa7848bf.JPG

    No words needed.

     

     

    My deepest condolences to the family.  John will be sorely missed.

     

    Gary

     

     

     

    • Like 7
  6. On 7/19/2023 at 7:01 PM, EmTee said:

    Make sure the breaker plate doesn't bind in the housing.  Also make sure that the mechanical advance weights are working smoothly.  It's much easier to make these inspections and perform any cleaning and adjustment with the distributor on the bench. 

     

    Much easier on the bench!  Here is my step-by-step distributor restoration.  Maybe it can help as you check each part is working correctly.

     

     

    • Like 4
  7. I installed an accessory electric pump to prime the carburetor when the car sat for more than six days.  

    I now push the button under the dash for about 30 seconds to fill the carburetor bowl and she fires right off.

    The original fuel pump works fine the rest of time and it draws fuel through the electric pump just fine.  No issues at all. 

     

    Here's how I installed the inline fuel pump.  As I stated, I use it only to fill the carburetor prior to starting, so I installed a momentary push button under the dash.

     

    Step-by-Step install:

     

     

    • Like 1
  8. 32 minutes ago, JBP said:

    how are those copper-sheathed gaskets holding up for you

     

    I just went out in the garage and snapped this photo with my iPhone:

     

     

    IMG_3443.jpg.0186ab425ae75acd63e4b5953d999764.jpg

     

    The manifolds have been on the car for over six years now, I'm quickly approaching 3,000 miles on the car and so far no issues at all.  

    You can still see the small bead of the high temp gasket maker around the exhaust ports and  the gasket still has its shiny copper look.  

    So far so good!   

    • Like 7
  9. On 6/22/2023 at 12:04 AM, 37 Buick Special said:

    Do you have any photos of the exhaust ports on the block with the positioning (not the right word for sure) rings installed prior to manifold installation?

    Hi Dave!  I went back and found the photos:

    DSC_0635.JPG.d15cbff8318ff40c8935841cbf39b81d.JPG

    First I sat the gland rings in the intake ports of the manifold to be sure they fit without binding.

     

     

    DSC_0639.JPG.f1efa657e331b0f4b23c8fe9c13b80a4.JPG

    Once tapped in, I measured the amount of metal proud of the casting and the gap.  I just didn't want any surprises when I installed the manifold.

     

     

    DSC_0640.JPG.94a4f6985d61a51be60b496fb906421c.JPG

    Then over to the block, I installed all four gland rings, and remeasured gaps and the height of each ring.  Everything was good here.

    I did not want the height of the ring to prevent proper manifold seating.  

     

     

    DSC_0643.JPG.6d94d6bcc16e57a9eb45b1e51796db5f.JPG

    I used this on the exhaust ports only.  First a light smear around the ports on the block....

     

     

    DSC_0644.JPG.aa9cd623b05b0d9d61b47b5e86ff6692.JPG

    Then I sat the gasket over the studs, over the gland rings and the gasket maker tacked it into position.

     

     

    DSC_0647.JPG.4aec18e484b6633a65cd83b192b14c99.JPG

    Again, a smear around the exhaust ports of the manifold assembly.  

     

     

    DSC_0662.JPG.cc87cb257883bc5015915a1d671356c8.JPG

    Heave it up and bolt it in position.

     

     

    Hope the photos help!  Have a great day!

    Gary

     

     

     

    • Like 7
  10. I installed a 6V electric pump to simply prime the carburetor after the car ('37 Buick) has sat for about a week.   The fuel in the bowl would evaporate, so instead of running the starter motor over and over to prime, now the electric pump, installed inline, does the job in about 30 seconds.  

     

    Here is the entire write up:

     

     

    • Thanks 1
  11. I had a nice ring gear story also!  When I restored my '37, it was obvious the vacuum start switch was malfunctioning and allowing the starter to "try" to engage while the previous owner was driving.  This constant activation of the solenoid caused irreparable damage to my ring gear, where a "flip" was out of the question.  I did get a new gear from Bob's at the time and the install was pretty straight forward:

     

     

    DSC_0851_(1).thumb.JPG.fb4ca7b0f5aa7013ebc256162af08a5c.JPG.14254778bc3de09aad0d13891c2dcbda.JPG

    My ring gear after constant attack by the solenoid and starter.

     

     

    DSC_0895_(1).thumb.JPG.6d6c22cd80e88ee81d6de51952391705.JPG.56f8d4d4ba9fbd4d112373c620cd53c6.JPG

    This close-up of the teeth show irreparable damage.  No flip here.  So I got a new gear and made the replacement.

     

     

    DSC_0957.thumb.JPG.e11bb279e8e2d29ac2e0ad0d8035efd7.JPG.e2d7fd3745a8ac90b6261ca25ae04378.JPG

    I evenly applied heat all around the gear to allow a slight expansion.  Using a heavy brass drift I began punching down little by little 

    Here you can see the ring beginning to let loose and drop.

     

     

    DSC_0964.thumb.JPG.b57bf4d7b86a1aea126b83635a935873.JPG.a9422a6fdb21d9c62a9323e8bed77eb2.JPG

    Almost completely off now, a few more taps and she dropped free from the flywheel.

     

     

    DSC_0980.thumb.JPG.20c6a40a5017dad482a11a75ccd5f3f9.JPG.6871350d2e4ca05a250499dc6bf22c79.JPG

    After cleaning everything up, especially the shoulder on the flywheel, I placed the ring on the grill to heat it, and left the flywheel out in the February cold.

     

     

    DSC_0984.thumb.JPG.82586e24a99cb9e0d1cdac82bc22e246.JPG.c1a3043ca35b6716719cae6ba6d0aa65.JPG

    The heat expansion was just enough to allow an easy slip on and when it all cooled and contracted, she was home.

     

     

    DSC_0985.thumb.JPG.0362f8bf45d8d2cc609b56a9f5d09102.JPG.19374aaeaf7523ea18def5007b43195d.JPG

    If you zoom in, you can see the bevels in the gear teeth to allow the starter gear to engage.  

    You will have to create some kind of bevel on this side to allow easy engagement.

     

    This was the first time I ever did this and it went very smoothly.  I have completely restored the car, so everything now works as it should.

    Getting close to 3,000 miles, and when they are all sorted out and adjusted properly it all works as intended.

     

    I would really try to find a good replacement ring gear unless like Larry said earlier you have a shop that can create the bevel on each tooth.

     

    Gary

    • Like 2
  12. Carter WCD 2-Barrel Carburetor Rebuild / Service Procedure:  A Step - By - Step photo essay

     

    PART THREE:  REASSEMBLY (continued...the last step!)

     

     

    16. Install the Throttle Connector Rod and the Fast Idle Connector Rod:

     

     

    IMG_0958.JPG.026b53fed94fded9534ee6b9eb5286ad.JPG

    These are the final parts to complete the carburetor rebuild.

    Note:  The small round part way out on the left is what's left of the original throttle connector rod washer, spring and retainer.

    The brass part in the middle is Part No. 172-22 "Throttle connector rod retainer".  Easier replacement if your original is rusted or ruined.

     

     

    Install the Throttle Control Rod:

    IMG_0959.JPG.7adc083d534d7d52bf06705941e3c4cb.JPG

    16A. Insert the upper end of the throttle connector rod into the hole in the pump operating lever.

    16B. Insert the lower end of the throttle connector rod into the hole in the throttle shaft arm.

     

     

    IMG_0961.JPG.92a7761e277a8dedd7c4568b179dd4ea.JPG

    16C. Slide the countershaft pin spring into the groove to secure the upper end of the throttle connector rod to the pump operating lever.

     

     

    IMG_0960.JPG.e95c2555838319c2d8d240d0f55b57e2.JPG

    16D. The lower end of the throttle connector rod is secured using the throttle control rod washer, spring and retainer.  (Or use part No. 172-22 throttle connector rod retainer)

    16E. Push in the retainer to compress the spring and turn it 90 degrees to secure it.

     

     

     

    Install the Fast Idle Connector Rod:

    IMG_0962.JPG.4c807f3ed83fd6148a52d831962fad3a.JPG

    16F. Rotate the upper end of the fast idle connector rod to line up the upset in the rod with the elongated hole in the choke lever.

    16G. Insert the fast idle connector rod into the hole in the choke lever and rotate down to secure the upper end.

     

     

    IMG_0963.JPG.9005e627d4ca025123a9ab2e393efad3.JPG

    16H. Insert the lower end of the fast idle connector rod into the hole in the fast idle cam trip lever.

    16I. Secure the lower end of the fast idle connector rod with a pin spring.

     

     

    IMG_0964.JPG.610f57b146c6af4d905dace127329563.JPG

    You are finished with the reassembly of the Carter WCD

     

    (Notice I did move the brass data tag out of the way of the fast idle connector rod.)

     

     

    I made the preliminary adjustments all according to the Carter sheet.  I'll post them in a few days.

     

    Gary

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    • Like 4
  13.  

    Carter WCD 2-Barrel Carburetor Rebuild / Service Procedure:  A Step - By - Step photo essay

     

    PART THREE:  REASSEMBLY (continued...)

     

     

    15. Rebuild the Air Horn Assembly.

     

     

    IMG_0943.JPG.26eb5dbcada62943866de29ac5ebae01.JPG

    Starting in the familiar way of grouping all the air horn parts together for assembly.

     

     

    IMG_0944.JPG.982753bdc1d269a38c0fea7bf51da0b5.JPG

    Again, all channels, passageways, cylinders... are blown out clean.

     

     

    IMG_0945.JPG.2dca14b6ffaa358eae3ab97521360086.JPG

    The Air Horn casting is clean and ready for rebuilding.

     

     

    IMG_0946.JPG.c8c809dd2de2e65dbd968f16cd992b7c.JPG

    15A. Install the choke piston lever, link and shaft assembly.  That's the actual part name.  I'll refer to it as the choke shaft.

     

     

    IMG_0947.JPG.476de8a55d9b4ab9fad2ed601b63c8ed.JPG

    15B. When the choke shaft is seated, begin lining up the choke piston with its operating cylinder.

     

     

    IMG_0948.JPG.37057df4358aa3d13ee39389755542fa.JPG

    15C. Once aligned, push down on the choke piston while rotating the choke shaft to seat the choke piston in its operating cylinder.

     

     

    IMG_0952.JPG.fda3b4a8f9fef28a6fe6a58be9da3504.JPG

    15D. Align the choke valve holes with the holes in the choke shaft.

     

     

    IMG_0953.JPG.f4ffa0751d3f78dc79540bca104b1239.JPG

    15E. Attach the choke valve with two choke valve attaching screws.

     

    You should have a nice easy action here now.  The piston MUST move freely in its cylinder.  

    It's the vacuum pulling on that piston that opens your choke plate.   NOT the thermostatic coil unit.

     

     

    IMG_0949.JPG.e35d1e82aec360ce34006e0814e74787.JPG

    15F. Install the coil housing baffle plate.

    15G. Install the coil housing gasket.

     

     

    IMG_0950.JPG.a3e9dd1c0013b86ba69b2c02791d6b28.JPG

    15H. Install the thermostatic coil and housing assembly.  Note: You first install with indicator marks at the bottom......

    15I. Then rotate the housing clockwise to set the index marks according to your carburetor's spec sheet.

     

    Operational Note:

    The enclosed bimetallic coil functions to CLOSE the choke.  Vacuum acting on the choke piston OPENS the choke.

     

    As the coil heats up, it relaxes and allows the piston to open the choke plate.

    As the coil cools down, it rotates to close the choke plate.

     

    Basically, you need to rotate the housing so the choke plate just touches closed at 65 -70 degrees.  

     

     

    49.UnloaderandFastIdleADJ2.jpeg.d7a90ccbcfdfc2a10686f81258b34df2.jpeg

    15J. From the Carter service manual.  

     

     

    IMG_0954.JPG.f43d6aa8575b6026e0549235718aaa47.JPG

    15K. Having set it so the choke plate just touches closed, secure the thermostatic coil and housing assembly with three coil housing attaching screws and three coil housing retainers.

     

     

    IMG_0955.JPG.4843fe48eb77cced178974d64821abc0.JPG

    15L. Install the choke lever clamp screw and choke lever clamp nut onto the choke lever.  

    This is now called the choke lever and screw assembly.

     

     

    IMG_0956.JPG.1ab468db798d31317bfb181fd5f778e9.JPG

    15M. Install the choke lever and screw assembly onto the choke shaft.  Don't over tighten it yet, it will need adjustment.

     

     

    IMG_0957.JPG.d57fc951e85e6d9a9380a87dfbc802eb.JPG

    15N. Secure the finished air horn to the bowl lid with four air horn attaching screws and lock washers.

    (Side note: That brass data tag will not stay there!  It interferes with the fast idle connector rod.  I moved it to a rear screw)

     

     

    The Air Horn is completed and attached.

     

     

    next post will finish up the job installing the rods.

     

     

     

    • Like 1
  14.  

     

    Carter WCD 2-Barrel Carburetor Rebuild / Service Procedure:  A Step - By - Step photo essay

     

    PART THREE:  REASSEMBLY (continued...)

     

     

    14. Rebuild the Bowl Cover Assembly.   (Part 2)

     

     

     

    DSC_2825.JPG.4f32fe08eca8e6f3513595efc64b8f9a.JPG

    The next few steps will be installing and adjusting these parts.

     

     

    IMG_0877.JPG.365cbee71428c4d4bd7c434a22c10805.JPG

    14AA. Insert the bowl cover strainer into the strainer nut and gasket assembly.  Tighten with a 3/4" wrench.

     

     

    IMG_0878.JPG.4f4411c10f6842bc356516eaed962de2.JPG

    14BB. Install the needle seat with a needle seat gasket using a flat blade screwdriver.

     

     

    IMG_0879.JPG.8b02175646c9309d377cfa316dae940e.JPG

    14CC. Hang the needle valve from the float and slowly lower the needle valve into the needle valve seat.

     

     

    IMG_0880.JPG.4a23a1481a833c4924054dd8357cbaae.JPG

    14DD. Install the float lever hinge pin to temporarily install the float so you can make float level adjustments before the bowl lid gasket is installed.

     

     

    IMG_0881.JPG.0d4cc172f8f468ab1ad3021831d1d27f.JPG

    14EE. Install the fuel line fitting.

     

     

    IMG_0882.JPG.93ca1ee90f3108ea5798cd83d516b607.JPG

    14FF.  FLOAT LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS.

    There are two float adjustments: Lateral and Vertical.  For both adjustments, you invert the bowl cover with NO GASKET and check that the float lip is resting against the seated needle.

    Basically, you need to be sure both pontoons measure 3/16" from the center solder seam of the floats (top of the float) to the machined edge of the bare metal casting on both sides.

    This ensures the float sits LEVEL (lateral adjustment) and at the correct HEIGHT (Vertical Adjustment).

    There is a proper float height adjustment tool for this.  I just measured with a ruler.  Any discrepancies are adjusted by gently bending the arms.

    The 3/16" is for the 608S and 608SA and maybe other carburetors, your model may differ.

     

     

    IMG_0883.JPG.fed9b2e491840bb82375236729ff2c69.JPG

    14GG. Time to place the new bowl cover gasket. Note the notch lines up with the positive in the pump cylinder.

    14HH.  Slide out the float lever pin and remove the float and needle.  *** Careful not to upset your lateral and vertical adjustments.

     

     

    IMG_0884.JPG.cdfe1b4885cb29c480325addea8c0131.JPG

    14II. Place the new bowl cover gasket, aligning all ports and checking all orifices are open and not covered by the gasket.

     

     

    IMG_0885.JPG.0a9ce9ce9372ccd67fe15cbaf793781a.JPG

    14JJ. Again, hang the needle from the float and lever assembly and guide it into the needle seat.

     

     

    IMG_0886.JPG.fc3e1f2ee77ca688cdc05e43584c8ec5.JPG

    14KK. Align the hinge holes and insert the float lever pin.  

     

     

    IMG_0887.JPG.2b8d4b83e1f7281128f67039c33eea5e.JPG

    14LL. Turn the cover right side up.  Attach the vacumeter piston to the vacumeter piston link by turning it 90 degrees.

     

     

     

    IMG_0888.JPG.a4b6bd727e56552ce48cb6151102cc96.JPG

    14MM. The vacumeter spring fits up inside the vacumeter piston.  Drop the spring into the bowl (again!) and watch carefully as you lower the lid down onto the bowl.

     

     

    IMG_2589.jpg.a9ee3801f27cccd7299b0d1bba839660.jpg

    14NN. Slide the bowl cover down onto the body, being careful that the vacumeter spring aligns up into the vacumeter piston.

    Just watch all around that you are not bending your jets, the floats are setting in right....  everything is coming together.

     

     

    IMG_0890.JPG.f3c9b11a564adc587e00d2a48e8c0ae7.JPG

    14OO. Secure the bowl cover to the body with six bowl cover attaching screws and lock washers.

    *** Install the starter switch cable clip to the screw directly above the starter switch.

    *** Install the brass Carter "608S" data tag under one of the rear screws.

     

     

    DSC_2853.JPG.a186569c048275a07ac04baa8b70d4a7.JPG

    Time to install the metering rods.  Part No. 75-459 is standard.  75-488 is lean, 75-489 is for high altitude only.

     

     

    IMG_0891.JPG.08da2bd010f85e5439f636b766dfa47b.JPG

    14PP. Last few parts to complete the lid.  I used the metering rod itself to gently pull the vacumeter spring away just enough to slide the metering rod through.

     

     

    IMG_0892.JPG.888ee98c7916a7e541a82e0890768009.JPG

    14QQ. Same for the other metering rod.  Slide it through the spring, the casting and down into the metering rod jets down below.

     

     

    IMG_0893.JPG.f9905ede6f9a09a152824d794a1521cc.JPG

    14RR. Check the action here of all the pump parts.  Everything moves freely.

    14SS. Install the dust cover using two dust cover attaching screws and lock washers.

     

     

    The Bowl Cover Assembly is complete.

     

     

     

    Next post will reassemble the Air Horn/Choke....

     

     

     

     

     

     

    • Like 4
×
×
  • Create New...