Doc Hubler

I had just reposted this request, and forgot about this. Went back to look and found exactly what I was looking for. THANKS!

Forgot to add that the rubber part number appears to be: 4548417-FK-37-3. I believe they are interchangeable for either side.

Looking for this items which allow water out of the drain tubes that go through the trunk on the 1967 Toro (I believe all first generation Toros used these). I don't think Fusick Olds parts sells these. There is one on each side, and it is installed on the outside exit. Special rubber pieces that I haven't seen before. I'm also looking for color-striped rubber vacuum hosing to repair my Toro with. Apparently Fusick now sells that material (though I'm not sure if they have all the colors needed). Any other hints on where to get this stuff? I tried looking on and off for a couple of years with no luck. I thought I might find it through the Corvette community, but they and their suppliers didn't seem to want to sell any.

Hi, I hadn't heard from you for a very long time. Do you still have the boot for the 42 Desoto headlight rod? As per discussion above. I would like to obtain that if you do or if you know where I might find one. Thanks, Tim

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Hi, I am looking for these rubber pieces, L/R, that go on the bottom of the car, rear rocker area, and are the plugs/final exit for water from the vent drain in the rear trunk area. I have all the rubber tubes for inside the vehicle, but lack these. One was missing, but I did still have an old one off the car. As far as I can tell, neither Fusick or Steele Rubber sell these, so I may have to try and find NOS. Realize that is about as likely as winning the lottery also! But sometimes, something shows up. I've included pictures. I'm sure these were used for 1966 and most like all the first gen Toros through 1970. Not sure if Cadillac had a simliar setup for the Eldorado. The round piece in the first picture plugs into the port where the drain tube is connected. It is the final release point for moisture from the rear window vent area. There is a little tab on it that forces proper orientation (downward towards ground). The slits along the sides of the round part are holes that go out the other side to release water. Prevents major rodents and insects and other road grime from depositing in the vent discharge area. The part number, as best I can read it is: 4548417-FK-37-3 Thanks, Tim

Very few of these 3 window coupes left, period. I have a 42 club coupe (not parting with that), and I know there was one for sale around Eugene area about 1-2 years ago. didn't sell on Ebay and went back to storage garage. Nice car, and very similar to mine. There is a 42 Dodge 3 window coupe for sale in Texas. Not sure if it has sold or not. Found on the HAMB.

Sure, but your brochure didn't say to install a 1941 model radio in a 42 desoto. That's what my car had. Anyway, I had read elsewhere that only 8 tube radios were offered for Desoto in 42. I have the radio I need, just need to get it refurbished. Eventually if someone is interested, I have a dash with working electric clock and correct 1941 radio that I will sell.

Hi, I'm looking for some information about this dealership. Anthony was a Packard dealer primarily so I'm starting here, but I understood (maybe incorrectly?) that they also sold other makes as well. Specifically, I'm interested if Hudson cars were sold at the San Francisco dealership. It seems that they were at Burlingame, San Mateo Area, just south of the city. But I'm interested in the main dealership building in SF. Furthermore, and I know this is reaching, are there any records on the cars sold there? Specifically, would they have records of VIN numbers for the Hudson cars they sold (if that happened)? I'm looking up some specific history on these cars sold in that area. I am a member of the Hudson Essex Terraplane club, and there is quite a bit of info on those dealerships around the country, but the particular one mentioned is not verified in some of their publications. I'm specifically interested in the year 1933. As far as I'm aware, HET doesn't have info on which cars were shipped to which dealerships around the country, but I will pursue that. Basically, what records are available from the Earl C. Anthony dealership network? I want to verify a specific car that was perhaps purchased there in 1933 to lay out the provenance. Appreciate the help in directing me to appropriate resources! Tim

Dave, Cool, a yellow truck (with standard black fenders I take it)! I think Tim Sheridan, the other poster on this thread, can help us because his truck has the original 2nd and 3rd seats (well, all the seats). I encourage you to visit his website if you haven't done so already. There was another 46 Suburban for sale in Portland about a month ago and I checked into it, but decided against that. Rough as mine is, the other was even rougher. I did find a guy with a 46 Panel truck nearby. But of course no seats, etc for that one and apparently those didn't have the little jump seat on the passenger side either. Below that jump seat is a little tool storage box that has a wooden lid with hasp. Is you're still there? My truck was originally the clamshell like your truck, but the tailgate probably broke off and was damaged, then disposed of. When I got my truck, it had a set of barn doors, which I like better anyway. So I do have to retrofit the truck for the bard doors. Not too bad to do I don't think. There is an interesting and unique rear bumper for those whereby the fender is "bent" in the center so it's closer to the floor of the truck. THis is so that when the barn doors are opened, one can stand closer to the interior of the truck. Obviously, no need for that with a clamshell arrangement. The truck I have was probably a Navy truck out in eastern Idaho (yes, the navy was there). Then it was eventually sold to a church for church camp in the 60s. I think it was used to haul stuff around, so naturally the seats were removed, and the tailgate was eventually damaged and all those items were lost or disposed of. The Advanced Design Suburbans of 47-54 had similar seats, but there are a little different. Some people have retrofitted that type of seat from what I understand. Let's all stay in touch and see how our projects turn out. Tm

You have to take the cover off of teh radios and look at the tag inside to get the model number. I'm not sure what the Mopar number means except 6 and 8 tube radios. It is the two 8 tube radios I would be interested in.

They are not exactly the same if it is indeed a 1940 plymouth radio. For Philco models, a 1940 Plymouth would be either a C-1550 or C-1708; both are 6 tube radios. The other two radios that you have are probably are 42-48 models. You have to look at the tags inside to get manufacturer and model number to determine the year. They might also be Motorola brand. 41 and 42 radios are 8 tube radios, essentially a high end radio for the time. The 41 and 42 Desoto radio grilles look the same except for the radio slot and the logo in the center, but actually the 42 has other differences. There is a slot on the bottom side for a map light that the 41 does not have. Also, 42 is all chrome (with red painted highlights like 41), but 41 had some of those areas woodgrained (beneath/around radio dial face and on front of ashtray).

Web38, I've added some pictures here. Picture 1 shows a 1941 radio grille with the radio out of my 1942 car, which fits perfectly (because the radio in my car was a 1941 model) Picture 2 shows the 1941 radio grille that I bought as a separate item to obtain the electric clock. Picture 3 shows the radio that was in my car, which is a 1941 model. Note that the center strip in the 1941 grill covers up the part between the dial and buttons. Picture 4 shows the 1942 Desoto Custom radio grille in my car. note that the area is larger for the radio. Picture 5 shows the model/sticker inside the radio. Confirms it is a 1941 radio, Model C-1808 Picture 6 shows another 1942 dash with radio. The freqencies are listed as usual but along with numbers next to the buttons. The dial face is about twice as large. Think this type was used for several years, with some variation in the faces. My conclusion, based on all evidence is that my car had the 1941 style radio installed from when it was new. The radio looks practically brand new inside (probably works, just haven't tested it yet). Nothing looked disturbed under the dash. My best guess is the buyers requested the radio be installed by the dealer, but all they had was the 1941 model, which was the same as the 42 except for the face/trim. They used 8 tube Philco radios for all models of DPDC those years. Motorola was another manufacturer/supplier of radios for DPDC, but I think Philco was the main one. You have to take the cover off the radio and look at the labels. There is a good website for determining years for Philco radios up to WWII (Philcoradio.com - Philco Auto Radios ). My car should have a C-1908 model.

Bill, Thanks. I actually have determined that my car had a 41 radio which does "fit", but not exactly. I will post a picture of it here soon. I need a 42 radio, or possibly 46-48 will work as well. The radio grille on the 41 and 42 are very similar but not the same. 41 has some woodgrained areas, does not have the map light, and had a center strip between radio pushbuttons and face of the radio which trims out the radio properly. The other major difference is the logo on the grille. For 41, it matches the ornament on trunk and hood; for 42 it is like a medallion that says "Custom" for my car. As my note above says, I need a model C-1908 radio which is what was used for all chrysler products in 1942. If the radio is in reasonably good shape, you can take the cover off and find the model number on a sticker label on the inside of the cover. They were all 8 tube radios that year as I understand it.

I had a bit of a mystery regarding the radio in my 42 Desoto Club Coupe. The radio in the dash clearly didn't seem quite right. it was the typical type that Chrysler used, but between the pushbuttons and the dial face, there should clearly have been a piece of the dash that covered that unfinished part of the radio. Now, I have taken the radio out and it is clearly a Philco radio Model C-1808 which was used in all Chrysler cars in 1941, not 1942. I have since looked up other pictures and confirmed this. The 1942 radios were made by Philco or possibly Motorola (also 8 tube radios) and next to the pushbuttons the face is wider, eliminating the need for a finish piece. I have also purchased a 1941 Desoto radio grille that had an electric clock that I plan to fix up for my 42, and that fits the radio perfectly. I know for a fact that the radio wasn't replaced anytime recently, and if it had been replaced in the 40s or 50s, it seems they would have gone for a 46-48 version which was newer. Hence my guess is that this is the radio that was originally installed in the car. It seems doubtful that it would have come from the factory that way -- they should have had enough radios of the proper style (C-1908), and indeed after 1942 the radio manufacturers were left with so many unused radios they actually installed them in furniture for home use. My best guess is that this is all the dealer out in eastern Washington had when the car was sold new and the buyer requested a radio be installed. Can anyone help me find a correct 1942 radio for this car? Even a proper 1942 clock would be great, although the one I have will work with a little cleaning and oiling. Will post pictures of all of this if there is any interest. I'm finding a few other inconsistencies between Desoto sales literature and what the car has. More questions to follow. Thanks, Tim

Here's the basic dash pieces taken apart The plastic piece with the speedo numbers that goes between is completely yellowed throughout. Polishing won't help as it's not just the surface. mine was so yellow, you could not read the odometer numbers. I'm thinking of having a new one made and may do several through a laser etch process. Would anybody else be interested in this?

Yep, that's it!

Hi, I'm looking for a turn signal unit for a 42 desoto. My car had an aftermarket version which is fine in many respects, but I would like to get the period correct equipment if possible. There are probably difficult to come by, but a version for 46-48 may also work. I have finally removed the instrument cluster for cleaning, servicing, and evaluation, and would like to make sure of the directional signal indicators on the instrument cluster. I think that the turn signal equipment came as part of the Park Avenue package, or could be purchased separately as an option. For my car, the indicator pods on the instrument cluster have the original red (now faded to orange) colored plastic, but they were never used as there was a piece of paper over each of these. My guess is that these became more common on 46-48 cars, and that the same set of right/left indicator lights on the dash was used. A good used unit that can be cleaned up and rewired would be great. THanks, Tim

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Tristan, You should join/look at the hetclub.org website which is the website for Hudson, Essex, and Terraplane cars. You may even wish to join the HET club. There are specific sub forums for this make and years. There is a pretty strong HET club presence in Australia and New Zealand also. The more pictures you can include and questions that you may have specifically will help you. A good book reference is Butler's History of Hudson (Crestline Series book) which you may find for sale on Ebay because it is out of print. Essex produced 157,247 cars in 1926. Apparently there were 1st and 2nd series touring cars that year, and I think that was in part because Hudson was switching over on how they designated model years at that time. In Butler's book, he states that the touring car was not very salable in the US, but was popular in foreign countries where a warmer climate prevailed, and presumably this is the case with your car. It says that the 2nd series car price was $795 and the weight was 2260 lbs. The boot and the top were now a light shade of gray (looks like you're may be missing). Consider contacting Geoff Clark in New Zealand as he is closer to where you're at. He writes a regular column for the HET club and I think he works mostly on the older Hudsons of this era. Good Luck, Tim

Thanks ply33! I should put a picture on here just to be sure we are talking the same thing. There is a bypass that goes to the heater. joined by tubing, it is separate from the main thermostat housing; but I'll check into the part number.

I think vendors such as Andy Bernbaum have most of the rubber parts I need for this car, however one special piece for this year only is the rubber boot that covers part of the headlight mechanism under the hood. Mine is disintegrating and will need to be replaced. Any suggestions where I could find one of these? Thanks, Tim

Need a part number for the modern equivalent thermostat for the 228 6 cyl engine, 1942 DeSoto. Took the radiator in for repair and the heater core. Has to drill out the rivets to get the heater core out of the little box attached to the fan/squirrel cage portion of the heater. Looks like those are painted with spackled paint, essentially the same as what the 1941-47 Chevy truck interiors were.

Very similar in many respects to my 46 Chevy Suburban. Hope you can restore to original specs, as 1942 anything is rare, but especially civilian WC trucks of any kind. Mechanical parts should be readily available as they were mostly similar to the passenger cars.

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