Bud Tierney
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If the unit isn't running try to convince her to spend enough to at least fire it up and see if it'll pull itself back and forth in the driveway... "sitting for 20 yrs", and not at least moving itself, will not bring very good offers.
Also, this's not the best market to sell into; the problem being, of course, whether the market will get worse or slowly improve...
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Looks like there was a "line" of "U" engines: U, UA, UAU, UU and UUB are on my list, apparently all 41/4 bore, but I have no stroke length.
The U and UU show in a 1917 ring catalog with a 1915 date, using a ring size and number also used by several Garford trucks; d'you have a Garford model # for the military truck or whatever was supposed to use the UU??
My catalogs are poor before 1920; eyeballing some likely ones finds no UU listing, but it's possible they didn't list military stuff, and if the UU was the military version may've not carried parts for it.
The UUB does show in a couple trucks 1917-21, so it's possible the UUB was a civilian version of the UU??
Oddly, a 36 catalog lists the UU in the Wisc engine section altho I find no UU listings in the makes sections; it had no UUB listing in makes or under Wisc engine. Under piston ass'bly it showed unique pistons for the UU, altho it shared valves with several other Wisc's and it shared rod bearings with the Wisc "B" (no mains listed)
You might also try the WW1 vehicle collectors forums. Good luck.
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Saw one sitting in a local shop here (NE Sandy Blvd, Portland, OR), probably last year, and haven't been back since; was partially under tarp, as I recall, and commented on it, but don't recall if shop owner said was his or not.
What could see looked nice, but didn't really pay that much attention. Pass the place all the time, could inquire if you'd like. Bud
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Which Wisconsin, the "Y" or the "Z"?? (Only checked a couple catalogs, they may've used more).
There's a nicely illus "Wisc T-Head Restoration" thread on smokstak, but didn't check to see which Wisc...believe that party has the only Wisc water-cooled manual?? I've seen on EBay...
If the "Z", check Cletrac.org; one of the early Cletracs used the Z and the ZT.
If the "Y", they were in DuPont and McFarlan cars, both prestigious enough to have clubs...one catalog lists Brockway (believe there's a club) Indiana, Maccar, Oshkosh (not sure about clubs) and a few orphans...
You might also try SuperJeff (Jeff L, who runs the "What Am I??" forum on aths---Guess what year/model truck in pic)--he has a monumental collection of truck pix, might also have engine pix...Good luck.
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IS: Edwin A Rutenbur, notable early engine designer/m'f'r, sold his interest in the engine co, incl the right to use the name, in 1912; perhaps quality suffered when the original designer left...
There's a museum website with a write-up on the Aussie Six; I believe it said once the bearing problem was fixed (heavier bearings installed, I think?) they gave good service; I don't recall that site mentioning breathing problems or having to convert to a 5 (national pride, perhaps)...
Indiana truck was doing well in 1920 (4K prod per Mroz); buying an engine co probably seemed like a good idea at the time; they did use the 6 cyl models 38 and 40, at least, in 1924-25.
I don't know why Roamer bought Rutenber; as you said, it seems illogical. I know nothing of Lycoming history; perhaps Roamers credit was shaky. It's also possible the "Canadian interests" mentioned in the Std Cat may've had plans (dreams?) to build a new engine or someone else's under license (and went poof!! in the crash), or that Indiana truck was selling assets to raise cash and sold cheap.
LB: Neat drawing; any history re' when drawing made?? Where in the world did you find it??
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Many thxx for help--I always feel stupid when I miss something like this; probably put too many words in instead of keeping it simple. Bud
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There's a Wiki entry for Barley Motor Car Co that, among other things, talks about the Barley and the Roamer, and states that when Lycoming engines were no longer available Roamer bought the Rutenber Motor Co in 1926....
That write-up appears in at least one other site; I have no idea which copied the other...
Various other sources state Rutenber was earlier bought by, or acquired by, or merged/consolidated into (sources differ on terminology) Indiana Truck Co/Cptn in or around 1920 or the early 20s...
Does anyone here have any information as to whether Indiana might've in turn sold Rutenber to Roamer in 1926?? So far Googling hasn't picked up any connection, but I haven't searched exhaustively.
Any comments appreciated!! Many thxx!! Bud
Ferdinand Alexander Porsche, designer of the Porsche 911, dies.
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Without Googling to make sure, I believe he also designed, or was involved in the design of the original VW.