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1940 MK1


Gomez

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I just thought I would post this in case anyone might find a need for this vehicle. It is a burned 1940 MK1. It was about 80% "restored" according to the owner right before the fire. It has the original 12 with two heads, original 2 speed. The almost complete new red leather interior was not burned but has some damage. The car is located in Long Branch, NJ. I'm just posting for the owner so any inquiries I receive I will pass onto him or call Kevin at 732-996-0795.

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At the moment, the owner wishes to sell as a whole and not part it out. The something heavy that fell on it was the garage it was sitting in. I went to see this vehicle today mostly hoping it wasn't as bad as it turned out to be. I suspect in a week or two he might decide to change his mind about parting it. He does want about $5000.00 for the whole thing. He is quite devastated by the whole thing and can't quite get the energy together to deal with trying to put it back together again. I will try to get some pictures of the interior for you. However, it may take a couple of days.

Thanks for inquiring!

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Hey Gomez, as an old body man, I would say there was little hope for anything showing on that car. When metal burns like that, it can seldom be straightened, and loses it ability to shrink and be worked, really a shame, good luck with it, Rolf

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I appreciate your comments Rolf; the body sure didn't look to salvageable to me either. I did think maybe the frame, trunk lid, skirts, or even the wheels which still have some paint on them may be of some value to someone. They were not as badly damaged by the fire or water. What would be your take on the value of the engine (12)& trans (2 speed Columbia); I believe both had some work completed on them prior to the fire but I will need to confirm that. The aluminum heads were safely tucked away in a box off site with the interior parts, the cast ones were on the engine at the time of the fire.

Just seems ashamed to me to just cart it off to the masher before any good parts are extracted. I am far from an expert so that is why I have posted the car here hoping to enlist some help. I figure collectively you folks know what can or can't be of any value on this car. I am compiling a list parts to photograph so they can be circulated. Any thoughts or requests besides Phil's for the interior?

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Oh yes Gomez, that throws a completely different light on the car, a complete engine, non OD transmission, and a Columbia are of definite value, and should not be crushed!! The picture is so dismal, it looked like everything was burned to a crisp. Any other parts that at all survived, like the ones you mentioned, also have value, and a lot of the heavy iron, like wheels and shocks, springs etc etc, could all be removed, put in a nice pile, advertised on the LZOC parts for sale site, and you might well get close to your asking price, that site gets a lot of exposure, and a lot of stuff does sell on it, and it is free!! The engine should not have been too badly harmed by the fire, the accessories may have taken a beating, distributor, carburetor etc, but the basic engine should be OK in most cases, so have heart, all is not lost after all, where is this car located?? Rolf

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Rolf, the car is located in Long Branch, NJ 07740 about a block from the beach. To bad it isn't summer around here or we could work on our tans while sifting through the rumble. As is right now, there is nothing colder than being around a hunk of metal in the howling winds of winter! I'll try to energize the owner to consider parting it out and if successful, will follow your advice on posting it on the LZOC parts for sale. Heck, at this point, maybe I?ll just buy it and part it out myself; might be a whole lot easier. I think I may have more enthusiasm for this than the owner. I was a little hesitant to without knowing if there was anything of value left. Sounds like there might be.

Thanks for the help!

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I would be a little nervous about mechanical parts that have been as hot as this car looks like it has been. Any parts should be dis-assembled to check for heat damage.

The Columbia axle would probably be OK, but all the seals and gaskets have probably been fried. Likewise the transmission. The engine might be OK too, but it probably has some melted stuff inside.

Years ago I bought a Ford flathead engine for my 1940 Mercury. I later found out that the engine had come out of a severely burned 1946 Ford. It seemed to run OK, but it was never just right. The seller finally admitted that he had removed the melted carburetor from the innards of the motor and painted the motor before selling it to me. He might not have gotten all of the carburetor pieces out because it made some funny noises!

I agree with Rolf, the LZOC website (lzoc.org) would be a good place to advertise the parts. It gets a lot of exposure, and it's FREE!

Good luck,

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Thanks guys! Phil, if and when I get pictures of the interior pieces I will send them off to you. It was suggested to me by a crazy friend to use what is left for a street rod. The thought kind of horrifies and intrigues me at the same time!

Thanks again to both of you for all your helpful suggestions and guidance!

Gomez

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Sorry to be so late getting back to you Phil, but I was waiting to hear back from the owner I was trying to help out. Seems he sold the car on his own, purely by accident. I am going to forward your email info to the original owner who in turn is going to send it onto the gentleman who purchased the car & interior. The original owner was led to believe the new owner may not be using everything and our hope is he may get in touch with you if he isn't.

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