Tom M Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I may have a few but they are chromed. Will check tonight after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigKev Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Try Restoration Supply Company @ (800)-306-7008 or 760-741-4014. They carry alot of Bra-Era stuff and they I know they cary lug nuts/bolts for a lot of vintage cars. So they might have something that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Kev, I tryed Restoration Supply, No Luck. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Tom, I would hate to paint over nice Chrome bolts, but If I can't find any others I may take you up on your offer. Let me know how much you want for them? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigKev Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 These are probably to short: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1930-Pack...031167727QQrdZ1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yes, I saw those, So close yet so far. The ones for wood wheels are almost twice that long. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for checking, tho. The bad thing is, I have a lot of extras for Disk type wheels (that my other '29 uses), which are even shorter than the ones for wire wheels. I guess, I could weld 2 of them together, Do ya think? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigKev Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I dont think I would bet me life on it... <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Rick,The ones I have are 3 1/2 inches long. I took some digital pictures of them but didn't have time last night to post. I had a Lions meeting to get to. I will try and post tonight after work or tomorrow. Is that okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Tom, Great, <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Let me know how many you can part with and how much you want for them. Send a PM if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I just discovered another difference between the '29 Standard and Super-8. The Super-8 has a larger radiator-filler-neck, so a larger Ornament-cap is required. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I have an extra Standard-8 Goddess Ornament, which I thought I could use, but when I tryed to plug that big hole with it, No Go. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Looks like I'll be calling Don Sommer again, unless someone has one they are willing to part with. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Rick,You have a PM from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I went over to check out the '29 645 that is located about 20 miles from me. I took some measurements and lots of pictures. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I learned a great deal about construction of the seats, rumbleseat and the floor structure but found that the top on his car is steel over wood frame, where the one on mine must have been fabric over chicken-wire and wood frame. So it was Not much help in that area. If I can't locate another with the same type top or find some good pictures or drawings, I may have to guesstamate and design my own top for it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1956Packard Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 For what it is worth, my 31 coupe is fabric over wire and wood - some of which is currently 'exposed' I can provide a little detail on composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Great, Does your's have a roll-up or fixed rear window? This one has a roll up rear window but it also appears to have had a lift up, hinged hatch behind the seats. If so, how do you get to the rear window crank handle (while driveing), and the trunk/rumbleseat release rod, if it's down in the hatch covered compartment? What is the length (front to back) of the overhang of the top, in front of the windshield? Is that overhang all wood or is there a metal piece on the bottom side? I think the top fabric wraps down and around the wood above doors and then is covered by an aluminum L shaped strip along above door opening, and then the drip rail runs around front, above windshield and then back to just behind doors? Is that correct? How is the drip rail attached and covered, if it is nailed in place? Or is there even a drip rail installed on that type top? I wouldn't think they would have nailed thru the outside of fabric to attach a drip-rail, but I don't see how else to do it? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1956Packard Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 While....I haven't driven it yet (note previous posts on engine). You're right, getting to the window crank and rumble latch would be hard while driving. It is covered by a fabric over wood hatch door.With respect to top...Sorry, I wasn't as clear as I should have been. There is a fabric centre section surrounded by metal. The centre section is about 30 inches by 30 inches. Just guessing at this point. I read your post too quickly...Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I guess they didn't want anyone trying to crank that back window while driving. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> It Would be Unsafe to do that. Well looks like I'm getting Nowhere on that top design. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> But Thanks anyway. It will be a while before I start on the top buildup, so maybe I can dig up some Info before then. Completely Fabric topped coupes must have been very Rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Of the 3 aluminum Step-plates, for rumble-seat access, I have found and purchased the lower 2 (one for bumper and one for rear of fender). But I have not been able to find the small round one that goes on top of rear fender. Not all rumble seat roadsters and coupes had that top step, but there are holes in finder for it on mine. I think only Dietrich coupes had it? So I need the step or I'll have more holes to weld up. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> So if anyone knows where I can get that round top step, please let me know? Thanks, You can see it on top of rear fender in the attached piture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I betcha you've got room for this one:http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Lewis-Replica-of-Hubley-Cast-Iron-Packard-Motor-Car_W0QQitemZ6031682694 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 That's a nice one! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> And It should last forever, unlike the Styrene creations. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I found out today that the Cigar-lighter works and is in Good condition. Just needed a little Paint. Now, if I can just build a Car around that Lighter, I've Got it Made. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I also found out that I have one of those Very Religious gas-tanks, (Very Holy). <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> This ones gonna need a lot of Fiberglass. I rattled around a length of chain in it and holes started appearing all Over. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 please don't experiment on the cigar lighter working and the gas tank leaking at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Too Late! I've already singed my eyebrows. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Can anyone tell me how the Rumbleseat-back-cushion and the hinge-brackets are attached to the trunk-lid? I can't determine the best way to fabricate those attachments and have no bolts exposed on outside of lid or at sides of cushion and still have the cushion and hinges easily installed and removable? Where did they hide the hardware? Were nuts welded on inside of trunk-lid frame or some kind of nut-plate installed? And then use short counter sunk bolts, covered by material covered strips? The rear fenders are partially held on by large brass nut-plates mounted in wood body frame, so I thought maybe they used something like that in the trunk-lid? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 If it's like the '31 the rumble hinge brackets are large cast iron affairs that attach to the floor at the bottom end and to the wood surrounding the rumble seat opening at the top. The lid is attached to the hinge pivot by flathead machine screws thru the hinge casting and thru the wood framing of the rumble lit into captured T nuts imbedded in the wood framing underneath the skin of the rumble lid. I have a set here from a '32 which would be similar but certainly not the same as the '29. They are easily castable if you can find a set to borrow as patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Okay, Thanks, for the Info. Is the seat back and cushion attached along both sides or on all 4 sides, thru flanges, with the same type and size T-nuts as hinges? Or is the cushion attached with smaller ones? Is there a metal sheet attached to complete back side of cushion or just metal angles on the sides of cushion frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Here's a pic of the '29 type hinge brackets. The large pin, at bottom of pic, hits the spring at top and acts as a shock absorber when lid is closed and pops the lid up to open. See Attachment: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Rick,That looks similar to the way mine are. Would you like me to take a picture of it for you?Also you have a PM from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Not to change the subject here, but I did a little research on your 645 with a friend of mine & have a bit of information for you. My friend has not only a complete, original 1929 Packard 645 boxed set Portfolio, but also the 1929 Packard 645 complete boxed set for the Individual Customs by Dietrich as well. These were the literature sets for these cars, individual plates with water color drawings of each body style available. Very formal & elegant. He looked through both sets for me and said your coupe matches the #5 plate in the first set I mentioned here. He said the only two door in the Individual Custom by Dietrich set was the convertible coupe, no coupe was shown in that set. That doesn't mean one wasn't built of course. Your car should have had Dietrich tags on the bottom of the cowl on each side. Check to see if there are two nail holes about 2 1/2 inches apart at the bottom of your cowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Tom, Yes, if you can get more complete detailed pictures of any of the lid or body structures, that would be a Great help. For some reason, when I took those pictures, the guy wouldn't let me take his car apart to get better pictures and measurements. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I found pictures of the hinge bracket parts in the parts manual, but it's how they are mounted and what kind of hardware is used, is what I can't find. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Your car should have had Dietrich tags on the bottom of the cowl on each side. Check to see if there are two nail holes about 2 1/2 inches apart at the bottom of your cowl. </div></div> If by the "bottom of cowl", you mean the area of cowl in front of the lower door hinge, No I couldn't find any holes there ? Did all dietrich bodies have the tags in that location? There are some holes above the running-boards but I assumed they were for lights, since there are 3 holes evenly spaced, on each side. Does that mean, since it was a soft-top coupe (not a convertible), that it was a 'One of a Kind' Custom or What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Your car should be the plate #5 in the standard 645 catelouge. Maybe try at bottom of cowl at front edge where it meets hood. It would be two nail holes, not three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I checked again and didn't find any holes in lower part of cowl. Not even any rust Holes. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Someone needs to put copies of those Dietrich Catalogs on the Internet, so We All can check them out. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I guess those Portfolio Sets go for Big-Bucks and he wouldn't be Inclined to share them with the World. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> That's Okay, I Understand. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rick,I took 7 here is first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rumble #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rumble #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rumble #4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rumble #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 It looks like that large pin that's supposed to hit the spring is in backwards, on Yours? It should on the outside of hinge bracket, so it will hit spring at top, when lid closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Rumble #6Oops only took 6Rick,My bad but the PM you sent me I was trigger happy and deleted it before I read it. Sorry. Can you resend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 What I really need to know, is how those pieces mount to lid and body. Like I said I already have pictures of the hinge parts. I guess there is No way to take pictures of That, with out taking it Apart. Thanks anyway, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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