WCraigH Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 What 1956 Clipper or Executive model or option for them had this taillight detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cnbed Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 None that I have ever seen. Looks like an "add-on" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 look closely at the pic. Its dificult to dicern for sure but it looks like there is a trim strip running longitudinaly along the TOP of the fender from tip top or top tip of taillite forward to the antenna ala Carib style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 no. now wait a minute! That wouldn't happen to be a 1965 Packard V12 REAR END shot now would it???? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I believe that is either a 57 or 58 Stude Packard. I cannot find any good photos of the rear of those cars. The trim on the inside of the fender looks legit, but that divider does not ring any bells. I am embarassed <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> to admit I don't pay much attention to 57/58 Packards.YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Quick, write to McGeeheeheean and ask for verification. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Definitely not '57 or '58 Studebaker or Packard. The machine is not cooperating with me tonight or I would post photos of the rear '57 and '58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The top "lap-over" piece does not seem to meet or is separated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 OK< look at the first photo attachment on the Nocallula Falls car show posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6219_Rules Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Not to step on any toes, but could this be to a 1956 Lincoln Capri? It sure looks like it to me...I will see if I can find a pic to share. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 No, it is not a '56 Lincoln. My brother owns a '56 Premiere and the tailights are the same for the Capri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 1956 Lincoln taillights can be seen if you scroll down under Lincoln.http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8035/terry.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 actually, I had set up a photo of the taillights on the front page, so just scroll down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'd say this is a view of the Exec that belongs to Craig's buddy, Paul.</div></div>Correct.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> On the other hand, the photo could very well have been taken inside one of the top-secret buildings at "Area 51." After all, Craig is out there in Nevada, and for all we know, he might be conspiring to sell Packard dies to aliens! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>This is an example of "reverse engineering" from one of the UFOs stored at S-4 next to Area 51. Bob Lazar stole this design from there in 1989, but before his famous interview by George Knapp on Las Vegas TV Channel 8, Bob had given it to my buddy Paul for safekeeping. After all, who would look for 24th century technology intalled on a bunch of old Packards? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 This is a rather eclectic group - almost scares one to see how readilyall expand on each others thoughts.YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoPack Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Definitely an Exec or Clipper (I think). How's that for hedging a bet. If you look at the line of the fender, you'll see a slight uprising, not a staight line. This is just like my Executive. I wonder if anyone can tell if this is the same "divider" that is present on the Patrician/400/Caribbean tail lights. Also note what looks like a rear fender antenna ala Caribbean. Dealers were often more than happy to adapt to the buyers wants and needs, so maybe these are dealer installed items. My executive definitely had the antenna on the front fender near the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Yup, no doubt, that's an antenna mast. On page 659 of my Kimes book it shows a 1957 Clipper "Country Sedan" wagon that has a load of chrome gee-gaws on it. You can see the rear fender AND this antenna. It also looks like there's extra chrome around the taillight. It's a 3/4 front view from the driver's side, so you CAN'T see the back of the taillight. But I'm almost ready to get my wallet out and bet that this is a '57 or '58 wagon or another Packardbaker with similar chrome add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 OK, Final Answer:The vertical decorative strip is a custom (OMG!) detail by Paul. It started life as a 1970s Lincoln side trim part. I thought it looked really cool and figured I'd give all the "know it alls" on the DF a little identifier-fun. Seemingly, almost all knew it wasn't an original detail, so y'all are pretty good.The twin rear antennas ARE stock (option), but Paul replaced the non-op original ones with some adapted, used Ford units. They are somewhat shorter in the retracted position when compared to his 1956 Caribbean HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6219_Rules Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Hey at least SOMETHING about it was Lincoln based!!! LOLWonderful thread!! Thanks so much. That was fun!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoPack Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Craig, What a lot of fun that was. Do it again! And tell Paul, I like the look of the chrome strip. Also rear fender antennae would look great on my Exec hardtop!. Thanks for some fun.Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 OK, I'm putting my wallet and my ego away. Good show! But, going back to the original question, it was definitely stated that it was a '56 Packard or Clipper, so I was guaranteed to be wrong. However, the question did state:<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">model or option for them had this taillight detail?</div></div>No fair using an owner modification! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />I wonder what that '57 wagon taillight does look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe kastellic Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 how about expanding of "how to add a chorme strip to your 56 clipper excutive or maybe the panther tail light lens" i think it would add a "specal mystique" to allready great car!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Craig, what about the inner piece of chrome on the edge of the fender rising up to meet the antenna. Is that stock Executive??YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The '57 wagon taillight is the same as on the sedan or coupe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Craig, what about the inner piece of chrome on the edge of the fender rising up to meet the antenna. Is that stock Executive??</div></div>Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how about expanding of "how to add a chorme strip to your 56 clipper excutive or maybe the panther tail light lens" i think it would add a "specal mystique" to allready great car!!! </div></div>Paul's wife Sue Ann gave me a big box of project pictures to go thru for the purpose of adding to "Paul's Exec" section of my website. There well may be shots of the assembly and if so, I'll post 'em here and on the website.The way Paul explained it to me was:He had a broken lens to use for mockup and practice. Once he finally got the curve and length correct, he had to figure out how to permanently attach the vertical trim piece. He tried using tabs at the top and bottom, but didn't feel that they were secure enough and also didn't look quite right. So he used the ubiquitous JB Weld to attach two small stainless steel screws to the inside channel of the trim piece. Then he [color:"red"] carefully drilled two corresponding holes in his [color:"red"] new lenses. The rest was simple assembly.I agree it looks great. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />BTW, Paul did [color:"red"] NOT use the wimpy rubber gaskets from Steele when mounting the lens or the housing. He thought they were effectively useless. Instead he used some aerospace tape with sticky back cut to fit. Unfortunately, his roll of this tape was purchased at a Boeing surplus sale and Paul has no idea where to get more. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 If you have an FM/CD radio installed in the glove box, you can use the other antenna just have to be lucky enough to get another 17' long antenna lead. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Just from cursory exam, I always thought the dual rear antennas were the same. 400's and others just used the plastic mount and gasket - the parts manual makes no distinctions as to motors, tubes, etc??The power antenna on my 52 Mayfair was on the left front also - odd??YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55PackardGuy Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 That was so you could reach out and manually move the antenna up and down without stopping when the motor didn't work. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Seriously, make SURE these things work before you have a potential buyer look at the car. The fellow who bought our '55 400 was more impressed with the fact that the power antenna worked than any other single feature of the car. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Brian, I can't recall where I read it either, but you are right, there were two suppliers of motors. I buy 'em when I see 'em just to make sure I have a spare motor if I need it. I got an NOS cable for $5.00 from Packard farm in Greenfield, Ind. I think he sold everything to the guy in Florida.YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Brian, I still have a catalog of parts from Spec. Int. Autos. I bought quite a bit of stuff and forgot I had it. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> NOS reynolds-wrap that goes behind the front tire and is now on the 400. Why didn't I buy the NOS scuff plates <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />Dumb, that's why. I bought a lot of stuff from Allen in FLA. He would ship you the parts and then, if you wanted them all, send payment. You could send stuff back and deduct that amount. Amazing, and he said he never got stiffed. He's where I got the NOS Monroe P/S cylinder. I think Allen had initially purchased McDowell's stuff. Visited Packard Farm while staying with relatives in Greenfield. He was a toy collector also and the whole upstairs of that new building was where he kept that collection. He had a lot of Chevy parts then too. Ahh, memories. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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