Guest Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 I just got my 69 Riv. GS, and am tearing into the front end. I got the driver side drum off, the drum was siezed to the lug studs so I had to pound a few of the studs through. The passenger side is giving me a harder time. I backed the brakes off all the way, and the drum just won't budge. Does anybody have any pointers? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reatta guy Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Hi:I would try to shoot W-D around the studes and hub. Then get under the car and then get a block of wood (2X4) and place at the edge of the brake drum and tap it with a hammer.I also own a '69 Riviera G. S. I own 6 Rivieras in all.Art the other Reatta Tec Advisor <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brh Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Its been awhile since I have done a break job so double check my info. I am assumeing the drum is frozen to the spindle. Which means it will spin but not come off. Using a hammer and rapping the drum in between the studs, will loosen the drum. Caution: Do not hit it hard, and put the nuts back on the studs to protect them. If the drum and spindle don't spin it is still possible your brakes are holding it. If you cannot seperate the drum and spindle take out your wheel bearings (you should repack anyway) and take off the whole thing to soak with W.D. and work with it on the bench. Feel free to email, I have done brake work. Hope this helps! Oh, and Do Not hammer on the fins you will break them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuickNut Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 If you can get your hands on some 'PB BLASTER" instead of WD-40, this might help. PB BLASTER is a much better penetrate. I would suggest over a 2-3 day span, spray soak the spindle to drum interface, the wheel lug to drum interface. I would also use the hammer as well. I have had some success using this, but have had other times where I had to rent or borrow a drum puller, or a huge wheel puller capable of fitting over the drum OD (outside diameter...). However, even when using a big wheel puller/gear puller, I have also found I had to use the hammer and PB Blaster as well. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Why are you taking the drums off the hub? According to the 68 service manual(68 and 69 have the same front drums) the hub and drum should be removed as an assembly by removing the spindle nut. In the wheel and tire section it specifically states that the lugs should never be driven out the way they were put in because when they installed them originally the stud was swaged to a bigger diameter at the outer end and by driving them out you will enlarge the hole in the hub preventing a new stud from installing tightly. To correctly remove a stud it should have the head drilled off from the back side and driven out to the outside. I have also heard that the drums usually have to be pressed off the hub and most do not survive. Hope I did not ruin your day, but you should get a service manual either paper or on CD and read up on the Riv.Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 Well, I got both the drums off, and took the hubs off also. The spindles and hubs seem to be in good shape. I wanted to get your guys opinion if I should replace the bearings, or if they seem okay to just re-pack them. Do you have to have the inner bearing pressed in, or can I do this at home?thanks for all your help lorin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brh Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 First I recommend you replace the rear seal on the spindles. An old trick is to mount the drum back on to the hub put the nut on the spindle and yank it off, which will leave the bearings, and seal sitting on the spindle. Clean off the bearings by wiping them off and examine for a discoloration. Do not use a solvent as it may stay in the bearings after repacking. If the color is off you may need to replace the bearings and races. The races are pressed in. The seals can be replaced using a flat piece of board. Do not hammer on the bearings you will weaken them. Picture is worth a thousand words so if I am not describing the following proceedure feel free to email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COMPACTBC Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Have you joined the ROA (Riviera Owners Association) yet? This the best place to get Riviera specific info, and it will save you a lot of time with any research that you might want to do. Go to their website www.rivowners.org and get all the details on how to join and also subscribe to their free on line discussion group, where you will be able to get almost instant help on any Riviera questions. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Thank you guys so much for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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