1916 Photo of what?

[51John]

Two photos from my grand parents album. Two questions. Are they the same vehicle? What is the car/cars?

[keiser31]

Overland.

[nzcarnerd]

6 hours ago, keiser31 said:

Overland.

 

1915-16 Model 83 maybe.

[keiser31]

I think they are different cars, but are both Overlands. One seems to have a nickel or chrome radiator shell.

Edited March 26, 2021 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[51John]

Thank you for your assistance gentlemen. 

[Ivan Saxton]

They are definitely very different cars,  and could be as much as 6 or 8 years different in date of manufacture.   Look at the line from the top of the radiator to the windscreen.  On the earlier car there is a distinct  upward sweep from where the rear edge of the bonnet sits on the scuttle.   The later car has a straight line from the radiator to the windscreen.  The engine that cannot be seen would likely be a mono-block 4 cyl side- valve with a detacheable cylinder head.   The earlier car with the untidy display of passengers is likely powered by a Rutenber, with four separately cast cylinder assemblies with non-detacheable heads.  The gearbox is likely  a transaxle type.