Richard Lichtfel
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This is an interesting car but hardly original. Hollansworth started to build this from a bunch of parts he had then sold it to a person in Louisiana who finished it. Looks to be a fun car to drive but I hope they don't try to pass it off for an original. Peerless stopped racing in 1906, in 1916 a Peerless dealer built a Peerless race car using the new V-8 engine and called it "The Green Dragon" it won a few races but with the WWI it disappeared off the screen.
Hollansworth built a replica of this car and has run the Great Race several times with it. To my knowledge there were no Peerless race cars in the 20's.
The craze in the 20's was to take an old model T Ford and make a speedster or racer out of it. There were several companies that made all the parts, including bodies, to do this. Some of these were very succesful race cars.
There was a company called Peerless that made body parts for T speedsters but no relation to Peerless of Cleveland.
RHL
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The history of grease cups and oilers goes back many years before the invent of the automobile. When the automobile came on the sceine grease cups and oilers used on the auto were standardized.
Grease cups: OOO 3/4 in. dia.--1/8 pipe thread
OO 1 in. dia.--1/8 pipe thread
O 1 1/4 in. dia. 1/8 or 1/4 in. pipe thread
these were also available with locking cups
Oil cups: #1 -- 1/4 X 32 3/8 dia.
#2--5/16 X 32 7/16 dia.
#3--3/8 X 24 1/2 dia.
#4-- 7/16 X 24 9/16 dia.
There was also a large variety of oilers with reservoirs.
When I grease my old cars I remove the grease cup and screw in a zerc and grease it with a grease gun, does a better job. I use water proof grease for the water pump and the grease cups so I can turn them up while I'm touring.
I remove the zercs and put the original grease cups back in when I'm done.
Filling grease cups and turning them down is a job.
RHL
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The western Reserve, Crawford Museum, wanted me to put together a Cleveland built car meet. I told them I would sure help with it but I live 400 miles away and I don't know the territory. We would need someone from the City, County, museum, and local car clubs to help set it up. I think it could be a great car meet. I would be glad to be on the committee or head it up if I can get the proper support.
Any suggestions??
Cleveland built cars: Winton, Stearns, Stearns-Knight, Gaeth,Stuyvant,Washburn, Marr, Owen, Phoenix,Rogers & Hanford,Pennington, White, Peerless, Hoffman, Royal Tourist, Cleveland, People's, Buckeye, Croxton, General, American Gas, OttoKar, Berg, Euclid, Star, Krastin, Durabile, Noble, Russell, Rogers & Thacher, Kirk-Latty, McIntosh, Brew-Hatcher, Monarch, Palmer, Derain, Woodland, Gabriel,Chandler, Ford, Jordan, Templar, Downing, Fedelia, Falcon, Snyder, RiChard, LaMarne, Harding Twelve, Grant, Hal Twelve, Disbrow, Abbott, Ferris, Kurtz, Rollin, Hupmobile, Merit, Marsh, Globe Four, Leon Rubay, Pomeroy, Cameron, Baker, Rauch & Lang, Eastman Electric, Strong & Rogers, Demars, Blakeslee, Williams Gasoline, Electric, Byrider, Parsons and Broc.
A meet with cars like this in Cleveland would sure draw attention to what Cleveland was in the manufacture of automobiles.
Your thoughts???? RHL
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I didn't know that was on the net but that is the adjustment proceedure I use. It is hard to see the line of the pins in the illustration but if that is not adjusted correct it can cause one side of the brake to grab.
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There were about 100 different manufacters of automobiles in Cleveland over the years and some were great cars. The problem is that there is not enough of most of these makes to have a club or news letter for. Winton, White, Peerless and Jordan were the most popular. When Winton and Peerless had their 100th anniversery meet in Cleveland only about 12 of each showed up.
It would be nice to have a club of Cleveland built cars and have a meet in Cleveland for them.
Would there be any interest in this?
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If everything is tight, it could be your adjustment. There is an adjustment for the alignment of the actuating pins and linkage that has to be done before you adjust the brakes. If this is not set right it will cause the brakes to grab which could be your chatter. It is hard to explain but it shows this in early car manuals, Dykes is what I use.
RHL
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I have pictures of this facility and the floor plan when it openned. I will dig them out and try to post them. This has been a busy summer with tours and shows and I have not had much time in my office. We just got back from the New London to New Brighton run and this weekend we are showing at the Milwaukee Masterpiece. And to top it off I got run over by a 1907 Brush in Brighton, that has slowed me down some. The doctor didn't believe I got run over by a brush and I had to show him a picture of it. Next week I can kick my shoes off and spend some time catching up on my paper work.
RHL
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Mark,
I am glad a restorer bought this car. I have known the last two owners and was happy to see Gene Wendt get this car knowing what great work he did.
Unfortunatley he fell on bad times.
The last two owners were members of our Peerless Motor Car Club and I would like to invite you to join. E mail me your address and I will send you an app.. peerless19@charter.net
I will be in Minn. Fri. and Sat. how far are you from the New London to Brighton run ??
Richard H. Lichtfeld
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I couldn't make the auction. I had to rebuild my trailer door and get my 1909 Mason ready for the New London to New Brighton tour.
That's a good price for the Peerless, I've seen comparable Peerless selling between 4 and 7 thousand dollars. I hope the person that bought it is going to restore it and not rod it. I will try and get the name of the buyer from the auction company and maybe we can help him restore it. I was afraid that it would be sold cheap to some one that would rod it.
RHL
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Get a DeLorean. John DeLorean was over 6 foot and he designed the interior for tall people.
I'm over 6 foot and with the seat all the way back I can't reach the pedals.
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How about " All that the Name Implies"
or "It Takes a Mopar to Catch a Mopar"
"My Wife Yes, My Dog Maybe, My Dodge? NEVER"
"Lucas, the prince of darkness"
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On August 7 a rare Peerless is coming up for auction in Hazelhurst Wisconsin.
A 1931 Custom 8 5 pass. Club Sedan. It is unrestored but complete and I believe it would be a true Classic.
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Columbia,
I believe you are the one that asked me for information on the Hirshell-Spillman engines. I have a lot of information on the H-S V-8 but I am not familiar with their other engines. I am sure that others on this forum may be able to help you.
RHL
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A guy found a bunch of parts like this in a river in Michigan back in 1917. He packaged them all up and sent them to the Ford factory for the scrape drive.
He got a letter back shortly from the Ford Company, "this is the worst wreck that we have ever seen, but we should have your Model T back on the road in two weeks."
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Moth balls work but do leave an odor for a while. Go to a store that sells campers, they sell a spray for rodents. You spray it on the inside of a brown paper bag, fold the bag a couple of times and place it on a folded news paper on the camper floor or car floor. Doesn't smell and works good. I have been doing this for several years with very good results. I also take medicine cups filled with moth balls and put one in the trunk and a couple under the hood
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Peerless came out with their first 50 HP six cylinder in 1908. And the V-8 in 1916.
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This is not a bad price for this carburetor. I have seen this carb used on several pre-10 engines, stationery, marine, and car. My 1909 Mason has this carb. on it. Works good.
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I picked up a split rim tool at Hershey a few years back and it didn't open up far enough for my 26 inch rims but I have since picked up a Weaver split rim tool that is mounted to the floor. This is the cats pajama's. I can now change a tire in ten minutes with no fear of pinching the tube. I have been changing tires for friends that have split rims. You should see if someone in your area has one of these or an old gas station or tire shop may have one buried some place.
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I've seen these in the back window of some cars in the 50's. I think it was actuated by a pendulum switch. It was an after market product.
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Careful!! I don't think the Ford split rim tool will open far enough for the 26 inch rim. There is a larger rim tool but they are hard to find.
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Jeff
You should contact Don Bettes. He is in our Peerless roster. He has made several patterns for Peerless parts and could probably answer your questions.
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Wisconsin is a good state for older cars. All of our back roads are paved with very little, if any traffic and good scenery. License is $75 , one fee as long as you own the vehicle. We take many one day picnic trips in our 1916 Peerless.
We do have winter though but we don't have to worry about mosquito's and bugs then. I also restore ice boats, we put the cars away in winter and sail our ice boats, 100 mph on ice with no brakes is a real thrill.
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Ten years ago my wife and I went out for brunch in our Delorean. When we came out we saw that someone had stolen the grill with the DMC on it. I called the police and had a full report on it. It cost me $400 to replace it. About six months later a friend called me and wanted me to come over and see what he had picked up. He said you lost your Delorean grill a while back, right? I said yeah, he said is this it, and handed it to me. Yeah it was, I asked where he got it. "THE POLICE AUCTION". It was marked Delorean grill $5 !!!!
The idiots knew it was a Delorean grill, had no idea of what it was worth and never checked their computor that had the theft listed.
So if you have something stolen go to the police auction, you might be able to buy it back cheap.
RHL
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According to the parts manuals the jack that came with the model 56 Peerless cars was: Peerless part number- Y 101, Jack ( Buckeye 1 ton with 14" handle).
This jack would have been with the tools provided in Peerless cars from 1916 into the early 20's.
I have seen other Peerless jacks but I think those were generic and not made for a specific car.
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