George Smolinski
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I just talked with the owner and he says it’s time to sell. Lots of surface rust, don’t see any cancer. New gas tank and lines, and brakes and lines. It’s a 6 cylinder that’s built for drag racing. He says you shouldn’t really drive it on the highway; says the trans is geared wrong for highway. Chrome would need refinishing. Haven’t seen interior condition. Will see that when we meet tomorrow and I look over the car more closely. Anyone want to give an estimate of value/what I should offer?
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12 hours ago, m-mman said:
The car is shiny and would likely be a fun thing to drive around but it has issues. The #1 (rather large) hurdle is that it is a 1958.
1958s are very similar to 1957s. However the styling of 1957s is significantly preferable to 1958s. Like maybe 50% in value for a comparable body style.
And even if you think 50% is too much then those who know will recognize that the pool of buyers for a 1958 is 2/3 fewer than those who want a 1957. So you either heavily discount it to get it sold, or you wait a loooong time to hook a 1958 buyer.
The current seller is experiencing this:
No sir I think people thought that it is a neat 50s car, but before they handed over the cash they found out that they could get a (beautiful) 1957 for the same (less?) money and walked away.
The car has issues in the dashboard. On 57-8 Fords there is a speedometer cover and 3 bezels; one for the heater, the radio and the clock. 57 & 58 are similar but not identical. This car seems to have a mixture between the two.
It is equipped with the (cheap) recirculating air heater, but the dash control is for the fresh air heater.
These are of course warnings that there are corners cut in other areas too.
(the door handles and window cranks are 1963 Galaxie, not 1958)The wheels & tires don’t add to the looks. It is a cheap Custom 300, blackwalls preferred maybe wide whites, but not narrow whites. And lose the trim rings they are not a 1958 trim item.
1958 Fords can offer an inexpensive entry into a 50s car, but as the saying goes: worth less when you buy it, worth less when you try to sell it.
Not a buyer, but thanks for your insight. Sounds like you know your Fords. I see a lot of ‘57 300’s on a gasser page in FB and they are super sharp. Had a ‘57 300 years ago; rust issues above the headlights and the rear quarters. Is that a common issue with the 57 & 58’s?
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I’d rather have the money to buy several cars rather than a list full of wishes. My short list would run into the millions:
A real 427 Cobra
Superbird preferably with a hemi
1959 Eldorado convert
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13 hours ago, 1935Packard said:
BAT's practice, as I understand it, is to make condition statements purely descriptive. They won't say what is correct, or what is original. They just describe it, without reference to originality, figuring that it's up to buyers to assess originality if they care about originality. But I agree, it does lead to some very puzzling descriptions!
As a recent BAT seller, I find your statement very true. However, it’s better than outright lies or over the top exaggerations at some other well known auctions. I recall one I attended where they were selling a ‘66 Impala SS supposedly L72 car. “Best in the world they claimed”. Being the owner of an L72 Biscayne, I knew what to look for on an L72 car. I’m not sure what they were selling, but the long as your arm list of incorrect parts, treatments, and applications added up IMHO “run, don’t walk away from it”.
To sum up, it always was and will be buyer beware.
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Sitting in a shed on what looks like a dirt floor, I wonder what the underside looks like.
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This ad has been posted many times over about 3 years. Same photos, same scrap metal cars and trucks.
Nothing to see here - move along.
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1 hour ago, John348 said:
Yes true, I too have seen almost every Impala with full size wheel covers, but as a Tech Advisor for the Vintage Chevrolet Club I was asked this question a few times over the past 30 years. I also own a small hub cap Impala that I show at a high level and I have been asked this question many times and had to provide documentation to skeptic judges all of the time. As I pointed out after 1964 I am not sure of Chevrolet's policy and can only speculate. However, I do have some additional proof from a 1962 Engineering Features Book printed by Chevrolet that you should find convincing. There is some text about the "accessory wheel discs" as well. This is from 1962, but you are going to have to trust me that this the same info from 1959 through 1964 with the exception of 1961. There is also a factory photo of a 62 Impala four door hard top with small wheel covers.
Are we talking apples and oranges? I spoke specifically about 1965 & 1966 and you seem to be referring to the earlier years. Also, I’ll toss this in the mix: my daughter bought a 1969 Impala years ago with 39,000 miles on it and it really was a little old lady car. It had the dog dish caps on it.
Question: Would original options lists or books prove anything one way or the other?
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37 minutes ago, John348 said:
One would think that, but that is not the case. Small hubcaps were standard on ALL Impala's from 1959 through 1964 with the exception of the 1961 model year, and Super Sport models. But this is a conversation for a separate thread. With advent of different choices for wheel cover options I would tend to think they kept the small caps as standard on the Impala line. From the parts book I would tend to think Chevrolet followed this trend through the rest of the 60's (I am not positive). After 1964 things get a little out of my wheelhouse (pun intended) They will list both full size wheel covers and small hub caps for the year in question as passenger, with no specific model designation, but they book does state (exc SS, Caprice) so food for thought?
John,
I have no proof for my statement regarding dogfish caps on 65 and 66 full size. I can only rely on the several hundred 65, 66 full size I’ve viewed. It would appear after reading your statement a couple times, that you offer no or shaky proof at best, IMHO. We may never know for sure either way.
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12 hours ago, rocketraider said:
Dogbowls were probably standard on Impala
They were not. Belair and Biscayne came with the dog dish caps both in 65 & 66. In 65 they had black bow tie and pinstripe. It was red in 66.
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Classy - Duesenberg
Flashy/gaudy - 1959 Cadillac
Raw power/untamed beast - A real 427 Cobra
Epitomy of muscle madness - Superbird
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9 hours ago, Jeff Perkins / Mn said:
Just found this thread…..I’m in Lakeland, right on the Wisconsin border in the St. Croix River Valley. I’m about 8 miles from you @George Smolinski but we have never met.
I’ll see if we can get together this spring/summer when I’m in town.
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1 hour ago, Gunsmoke said:
Interesting thread advice given here, I'm guessing the OP is not a serious one, indeed, OP car looks like it has already been restored. Won't be surprised if we never hear back.
May not hear back from the OP, but some of us among the unwashed masses learned a little about Lincoln V12 engine rebuilding.
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49 minutes ago, edinmass said:
The first one........I try never to be derogatory to anyone in the hobby, or in life generally. I am known to occasionally be opinionated. Happy New Year George........still looking for my steam car.
Happy New Year to you! I appreciate your sharing your knowledge and your input here.
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3 hours ago, edinmass said:
Seemed like 80 percent of the bottom feeders out there along with me had the same idea.
Two questions & please take no offense at either.
In your statement, are you classifying yourself as a bottom feeder at that point in your car "history?"
Can you please define bottom feeder? I've seen it used in 2 ways. One is as you somewhat describe; someone starting out buying vehicles needing work or lesser vehicles, and selling/trading up to better, more desirable ones. The other way is derogatory, meant to show disdain for someone who for whatever reason, can't or doesn't own a high class vehicle.
FYI, I am the first definition of a bottom feeder, probably will always be (I choose not to spend what some may classify as stupid money on vehicles), and I've experienced the second definition of bottom feeder.
Either way, I can still appreciate a fine original or restored to original vehicle no matter who the owner is.
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Nice! Two things: I wonder if any of them see the road at all. If I could take 1 it would be the ‘59 Cadillac.
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Marketplace - Antique AC spark plugs | Facebook
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I have a original box of 10 ac spark plugs no. 104. All plugs in original individual boxes as well The plugs have a wax type coating on them in boxes protecting them. I have never seen a full box like this in this condition complete $80.00 for complete set in box Can ship at buyers exspense
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Went on FB and looked at the seller's profile, photos, other stuff he's selling. He appears to be a flipper and buys and sells anything and everything he can get his hands on.
Judging from the engine photo and the 3rd photo where it's alone in a dirt floor storage unit, it may be swiss cheese underneath.
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"I'm thinking there was a Not Mine link to this exact same 1956 Pontiac in Topeka two years ago on this Forum. The price was $12K then."I searched this forum. I think it's the one I included below. Unfortunately no photos. Hudsy Wudsy posted it. Maybe he remembers.
Here's a link to a '56 Star Chief that's for sale on Facebook. It's an attractive model:
Marketplace - 1956 Pontiac Star chief | Facebook
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57 minutes ago, jukejunkie1015 said:
The color reminds me of Campbells' tomato soup.
I'm having that and grilled cheese for supper.
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Did Packard offer red as a paint color then?
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1994 Dodge conversion van. B250 full size, not a Caravan.
It's in an unincorporated town called Wasco. I believe Wasco is part of Campton Hills.
Chance to buy a 1957 Ford 2 Door Wagon. Value?
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I’ll be looking at it today in the daylight. Then I’ll see just how bad it is. I’m thinking of buying to flip. From looking at FB crap, it should $29,000, the usual price for FB classics.