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    Status If Any of Marque Specific Clubs Falling Under AACA

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    5 hours ago, Mark Shaw said:

     

    • Consolidation under the HCCA would be more cost effective by eliminating the high cost of individual club magazines, annual dues to only one club, and shared resources for libraries and museums.  

    I am a member of the HCCA and own a brass era car.  One of the best things about the HCCA is the Gazette magazine.  It is a great magazine dedicated to the brass era vehicle through year 1915.  You suggest that consolidating under the AACA would eliminate the high cost of individual club magazines.  However, the Gazette is  one of the best features of having HCCA dedicated only to the brass era.  If the HCCA was just an organization under the AACA umbrella, I believe there would be very little focus on brass era cars and the benefits that have been enjoyed through the HCCA would rapidly go away.  AACA in my opinion covers such a large year range of vehicles (over 100 years now), the brass era would get lost and receive very little attention.

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    Make and model at Stone Mountain?

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    8 hours ago, Phillip Cole said:

    As I recall there was a decent car collection in one of the park buildings until around 2016.

    The Stone Mountain Antique Car and Treasure Museum was actioned off in March, 2009.

     

    "The Antique Car Museum at Georgia’s Stone Mountain Park was opened in 1963 by Tommy Protsman and his son Bobby to showcase their private collection of antiques and cars. With nearly four decades of experience under its belt, the museum housed forty antique cars and over 4000 interesting antiques. The museum included such rare cars as a 1948 Tucker and a 1928 Martin. Voted by Car Collector Magazine as one of the top ten car museums with fifty cars or less, the museum was a must see destination for all car lovers and antique connoisseurs.

    Why was it that way? Because in December 2008 Bobby Protsman had to close the museum and put the entire contents up for auction. The auction is slated for March 21-22, 2009 with a public viewing on March 20, 2009"

     

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    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    6 hours ago, arcticbuicks said:

    Another issue i wonder about with EVs.....and if the movement really  picks up steam.......the general public could make Gas cars enemy number one  [not likely for a few years ].......where anyone would be afraid or at risk to dare go out with a gas guzzler.........i think it was early 1970s when the fur trade really slowed and backlash from people ......people and even some famous people in public wearing real furs.....getting doused in red paint .

     

    it may come to a point where most people are switching to EVs and with no new cars available in gas in the near future.....they may acquire an attitude that anybody else driving a gas car is bad or should be punished .....legally or not

    I think that it is very likely with the government leading the way on making anyone who wants to use a gasoline powered car, boat, lawnmower, etc. the "enemy".  Just look at cancel culture today and if you choose the "wrong" opinion about certain things you can be absolutely destroyed by the government (Dept. of Justice) and / or social media.  Just ask the parents who are trying to protect their children from our over reaching public education system.  It use to be called "freedom" to make our own choices.  Now we are enemies of the government if we want to exercise our freedoms.

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    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    "There are companies now converting high dollar classics to EV".

     

    Converting a "high dollar" classic to an EV would actually destroy the value of the car.  I can't imagine anyone doing that.  Matching numbers and authenticity are absolutely necessary to maintain the value of any high dollar car.  Replacing the IC engine with an electric motor would significantly affect the value.  The only EV conversions I can imagine would be on cars that are not "high dollar".

    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    At the beginning of the auto industry in the last century, I don't believe the government subsidized the automobile in the marketplace.  There were hundreds of car manufacturers that failed and many people lost lots of money.  The current EV market is being significantly subsidized by the Biden Administration and some state governments with purchasing incentives, money to build charging stations, tax incentives for businesses, etc.  When the market is ultimately able to choose, we will really see if EVs will make it or not.

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    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    I think GE's info is just wrong.  The stats for 1900 and 1917 can't be the same.  EVs have never, ever been very widely used even going back to the turn of last century.  I'm afraid there are too many people in the media that are trying to put out erroneous historical info today to try to sway the public toward EVs.  If the American people want EVs, then the market place, not the White House, not the media, not bogus climate change propaganda will make it happen.  

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    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    9 hours ago, arcticbuicks said:

    @modela28 there are quite a few sources,wiki.motor trend,hagerty etc......you can just do quick search to see many

     in 1917......i would assume they came up with the numbers from licenced vehicles on the road........22% were gas powered....%38 EV......%40 steam

    I found the following quote from Google: 

     
    "By 1900, in the United States, 38% of US automobiles, 33,842 cars, were powered by electricity (40% were powered by steam, and 22% by gasoline)". 
    It is interesting that the percentages shown for 1900 / turn of the century are the exact same ones quoted for 1917.  I believe those percentages would be accurate for 1900 since electric and steam cars initially were being developed more than gasoline autos.  However, by 1917, there is no way these percentages could have held up.  For them to be true by 1917, there would have to have been more electric cars sold than all of the gasoline cars sold by all gasoline car manufacturers combined.  That is just not true.  The math does not hold up.  Besides if your stats were true, there would be more electric antique cars around today and I rarely seen them at shows.
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    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    1 hour ago, Buffalowed Bill said:

    As an aside the recent spike in the thefts of Kia and Hyundai's made realize that I never see an EV stolen. I wondered if that was the case or had just been missing something. I googled a question regarding the thefts of EV's. The answer I got was that for some unknown reason EV's are almost never stolen. In our dynamic world I'm sure that will change, but for now this is part of the rest of the story.     

    I'm not sure why anyone would steal an EV.  Once you do, then you have to find a place to charge it and they're not on every corner!

    Why it's going to be some time before I switch to an E.V. { Going to keep my Vintage car }

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    4 hours ago, arcticbuicks said:

    fun fact......in USA in 1917......there were more electric cars and steam ......than gas cars.......including big huge trucks too

    and every farm had a windmill..........maybe we are just angry.......cuz we were there and well on the way.....and the planet would be in fine shape today............but we blew it ?

    What is the source for this statistic?  Please share it.  No offense, but I don't believe it.  There were very few electric car manufacturers in total and very few left by 1917.  Model T Ford production in total was already over 2.4 million by the end of 1917 and that does not include all other non-Ford makes.  Stanley and White were the largest manufacturers of steam cars and they were not high production.  I doubt there were 100K electric cars produced in total by all electric car manufacturers by 1917. 

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    1904 Columbia Phaeton Electric Car - looking for some new electrical points and magneto and some other misc.

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    1 hour ago, AHa said:

    It looks as though the original poster has an electric car but the car he recently purchased is not electric. If you look under the seat, you can just make out what looks to be a round aluminum crankcase. This guy obviously knows what he needs.

    If you look at the OP's first picture, you can see a similar gauge on the dash as the picture below.  This car is obviously an electric.  I think the "round aluminum crankcase" is the electric motor.

    1903 Columbia Electric Gauge.jpeg

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