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Lot's of good cheap luxury cars available from that era. They are cheap and probably destined to stay that way for 3 reasons;
1) price of fuel. Those barges are very thirsty, especially the Ford products.
2) size. They are cumbersome to park and put in storage.
3) looks. Let's face it most of them are kinda ugly and the interiors look chintzy.
I know I'm going to get lots of negative comments on this post but it's generally the truth. I may not agree with the above opinions on those cars as I do like a lot of them.
The 79-85 Riv's ,Toro's & Eldo's for example are a very nice driver and plenty cheap, just the way I like 'em.
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90% of them have had the EFI changed over to carb due to problems. Most of the conversions were done under warranty by the dealers back in the early 80's. Like a lot of cars in this age bracket prices are very reasonable. Especially Chrysler's. Still a nice looking ride, but memories of the problems I had with my 81 Dodge Mirada (sister car) still haunt me. I really was in love with these when new but that was when Chrysler was on the ropes and they even halted trading in Chrysler stock. The cars were built like crap!
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The automobile factory/assembly line was less than 50 years old by 1955. Now it's 100 % older and more perfected. That along with much stiffer competition is why we have better cars now. The North American cars were always cheaper but faster and more dependable than most European cars at that time and I never noticed how poor that stuff fit until I read Tom Mcahill or got to ride in a neighbour's British/German car. By the early 70's when I was buying well used cars, Japanese or Euro cars were too rusty & slow to even get a 2nd glance. But it did tick me off trying to close the driver's door on every Chrysler product of the time or patching holes in 4-5 year old Fords. Changing a rusty fender on a GMC opened my eyes when I found cross threaded & missing bolts.
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Linc400; Big slug cars from the 60's-70's are some of my favorites. I still have a 66 Cadillac DeVille convertible that I rarely drive. Why? Because the mileage is terrible. 70's Lincoln were the worst cars I ever owned for fuel mileage. That's why I don't have one around anymore. I may not like Prius' anymore than most on this forum but if you think they only get 5 more mpg than a 50's Metro, your wrong. a 70's era VW gets about the same as my 06 Charger, which I find hard on fuel. That's why I drive a 2000 Beetle to work and save the others for a occasional weekend jaunt. Yes I do live in Canada so our gas prices are higher then USA. But the rest of the world prices are going to come knocking on your door soon. Besides, don't you just hate handing over your cash to an Oil company?
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1) 79 Dodge Lil Red Express
2) 56 Ford F100
3)59 Ford F 100
4) 49 Dodge Power Wagon
5) 88-97 GMC Z71 shorty step side
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I'm having a difficult time right now with tirekickers/wannabe's and scammers as I have my 86 Porsche 928 up for sale. I've dropped the price 2 times to now well below fair market value (so I'm told by the guru's) and still no sale. I've had it with the time wasters who are only interested in driving a Porsche and then saying "well I gotta talk it over with the wife"
That's BS. I guess the old saying" a used car is only worth what the buyer will pay for it" is true.
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Thank you all!
My first choice would be a 1939 La Salle or Cadillac. After that, I like 52 to 54 Lincoln Capri, 51 to 55 Mercury, and 59 to 63 Cadillacs.
Thanks again,
Larenc
I like your choices. Start off with something most affordable. 51 to 55 Merc will probably be the lowest cost to keep running and probably the cheapest to buy. The easiest to work on would be the 39 Cadillac's.
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The reason that the smaller auto companies went out of business after the stock market crash and after WW2 was because of the lack of capital. A car company is unlike many other businesses in the amount of money it takes to product. On a simple formula, if the average car has 15,000 parts and each part takes tooling that might be only $100,000.00 per part, what is the sum of the capital to build the car. (15,000 X $100,000.00= A LOT!!) Now you might say that a particular part does not take a 100G, but other parts like body dies might cost 100-250 million for a particular car. The small manufacturers just ran out of money. When you put a certain number of cars amortized over a fixed tooling cost, the tooling per car goes down and that is where you make money. Simple economics.
That's it in a nutshell ,folks!
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I bought a 69 Pontiac Grand Prix years ago that I sold a few months later. The guy I sold it came by my place a week later and handed me a really large and lethal switchblade he found when working under the seats. He thought I was a badass or something and wouldn't believe it wasn't mine. He offered to trade me for a pellet pistol which I did but he still didn't believe me!
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Preston Tucker put himself out of business. Under capitalized and over spending is what kills any enterprise. The movie was interesting for sure, but it was sensationalized to make a better story. Still a quintessential "American Dream" story during a time when America was in it's glory days.
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12 sets since 1959 2 sets between 30 and 59
Here's a pic of a 29 Oshawa built Pontiac I dragged out of a barn wher it was since the 50's
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THere is at least one company that advertises they will tell you how many cars like yours survive. They are checking DMV records and as illustrated above the number can be super conservative due to cars like the Buick and Chevy truck above that are not registered. I cringe, everything some guy says his is the only one known to exist. Know by who? THe owner? his club members? a national DMV search? Unless only one car like yours was ever built there is no way a person can claim exclusive ownership on the only example.
I saw it happen at Carlisle one year. A guy came in with a rare Canadian built Model T, put it on display and claimed it was one of only 3 known in the world, (this is a Model T we are talking about) on a big sign. Of course not only was there another car just like his in attendance just by chance it was rented the space directly next to him.
I find it hilarious that people describe their car as " one of 12" built, especially Chevy or Chrysler products. I always say back to them, "well you better keep it as I'll never be able to find parts for it if it's that rare"
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What's the name of the show, and could you post a link? I will spread the word.
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I've missed many a nice car over the years as one of my best friends is a wholesaler and he had a car lot where I hung around. But one I always wish I had bought was a 67 Plymouth Belvedere GTX that was an original Hemi powered car, 4 speed. It had a 440 in by the summer of 72 but the rest was original and did it ever haul a$$. A another friend owned it at the time and lost his job or was hard up for cash, as he was asking $1200. Someone more astute than me scooped it up after he offered it to me first.
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Here in Ontario it's almost impossible to drive an antique year round as they will disintergrate from the salt & slush. I had my 1997 Ford Explorer on the hoist today to see what it needed. Inner rockers rusted away almost, rear spring shackles rusted through. Front torsion bar mounts rusted,rear cargo floor rusted through. It's going to be scrapped. Anybody need a nice Eddie Bauer interior, or 4 wheel drive components? I think someone is going to buy the wheels & tires!
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I may be different than most guys my age who were in their 20's in the 70's because I had quite a few luxo barges when I was young. At 17 yrs old I bought my 1st Cadillac, a 59 Sedan DeVille. Then a year later a 63 Eldo convertible. I loved the muscle cars also and had lots of them too, especially after the gas crisis and insurance hikes in 73-75. I still have a 66 Cadi convertible and I would like another 70 Lincoln Mk III. But no room and gas prices climbing again here in Ontario Canada are conspiring against me. I have been resisting the urge to go look at a 73 Imperial that's for sale locally because once I drive it it may follow me home. The other factor is that 2000-03 Cadillac STS and DTS are dirt cheap luxury drivers available now for a song.
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I seen this posted on the London Ontario kijiji site for sale. Not mine. Very interesting car with a history.1940 Cadillac Seville Series Seventy-Five - London Collector Cars For Sale - Kijiji London This correctly formal Cadillac Fleetwood Series Seventy-Five Town Car, Style7553 was the most expensive model in 1940. One of only fourteen built, it is a classic open front, seven passenger vechile with a leather covered roof and closed uppper rear quater panels.
The car is equiped with dual side mounted spare tires; the last year that side mounts were available; and dual bumper mounted fog/driving lights. A weather proof cover can be buttoned over the chauffeur's compartment.
The iterior is finished in cloth to the rear, and leather in the chauffeur compartment, seperated by a glass division. The jump seats fold in, and are fully operational.
This car has never been shown in any competeion. It has been utilized as a feature vehicle in numerious motion pictures ~ Cry Wolf ( Errol Flynn, Barabra Stanwyck ); Black Stallion ( Mickey Rooney ); Cane and Able ( Peter Strauss ) ; Makia Princess ( Tony Curtis ) ; to name a few.
Purportedly there are less than three of these thoughhbreds in existance. This vechile is a real head-turner and an absolute pleasure to drive. It is for sale, and the owner is inviting fair but serious offers, Please contact the number, and all calls will be returned within 24 hours
705-833-2076
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The 60-62 Chrysler is a classic and I also remember being captivated by a 58 Pontiac dash when I was kid. The Stude Hawk GT's from 61-64 was the one that reminded me of an airplane cockpit back then as my uncle had a 63. When the 69 Pontiac GP came out I thought they did a copy of the Gran Turisimo. Friends of mine in grade school had a 59 Jaguar mk1V saloon that we occasionally got a ride in and I will never forget that huge slab of burled walnut with all the (Smiths?) gauges in it.
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I don't think "restored" is the proper description for this car. "Re-configured" or totally modified is a better way to describe. Or perhaps "Gow job", or Pre-war Hot Rodded?
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Neat story. I'm sure it will be resurrected in one form or another. I remember reading about Bugatti's and the "thriving cottage industry" in Europe of building fake Bugatti's back in the 80's.
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It seems funny now to me that when I bought a 1950 Meteor in 1972 it was thought of as a really old car at 22 yrs. Now for example my 1979 Trans Am at 30 yrs. old is not considered old by a lot of people in the hobby and my 20 yr old Allante' is darn near a new car!
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Does anyone know how many "missing" Duesy's are still out there?
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That's a great story West. Thanks for the info!!
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My 1929 Pontiac was built in Oshawa Ontario, by General Motors of Canada. Never recall seeing a seperate body tag on it though.
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Mid 70s to early 80s Collectible Ever?
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The "Malaise Era" cars will not be the big dollar cars their ancestors are now. I have a few of them. The 79 Trans Am I now have is in very nice shape but is a $10k car on the best of days and I haven't seen those days since early '08. I did manage to get a bit over $3k for my 79 Chrysler 300 but that was a long struggle. There is a glut of these era cars on the local market right now and not much demand so actual selling prices are down. A great time to be flush with cash and room for storage. I have been tempted on a '82 Riv convertible but just too cash poor to even nibble at $4k!