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1935-36 Packard Delco distributor 662T. Restored. Ready to mount. It's the way I bought it. I never used it.
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Cap is actually incorrect for 1933. That one is for 1934. Unless they changed halfway through 1933????
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On 2/6/2024 at 7:28 PM, 1935Packard said:
In 2018, it no-saled at Bonhams with a $450k to $550k estimate, with at least partially different paint and a more confident claim that it was bodied by Van Leersum. And it looks like someone was either confident enough, or maybe more accurately, wantws others to be confident enough, that they put the coachbuilder's tag on it (in green). Hmm, wonder what the real story is here.
https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24811/lot/95/1946-delahaye-135m-coupechassis-no-800311/
It's a shame about the baby-shit brown color they added. It looked soooo much better as a one-color car.
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On 3/3/2024 at 8:18 PM, alsancle said:
Orin,
This car was fantastic in person. Older restoration but the photos don't do it justice with how cool it is in person.
https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-8MNOGO/1948-delahaye-type-135-ms-cabriolet
lease note that according to a noted marque authority, this Delahaye 135 MS Cabriolet is one of a series of just nine examples built to the highly desirable "Vedette" specification, which included a cockpit designed primarily for two, refined grille design, and other sporting details. It is believed to be one of as few as four in existence and, of those, the sole unrestored example remaining.
Beautifully Preserved, Stunningly Proportioned, Largely Unrestored Example
Desirable Three-Carburetor, 130 BHP MS Specification
Derived from Monte Carlo- and Le Mans-Winning 135 Race Cars
Part of The Mullin Collection Since 2000
Offered with Fascinating File of Early Correspondence
3,557 CC OHV Inline 6-Cylinder Engine
Three Solex 40PAI Downdraft Carburetors
130 BHP at 4,000 RPM
4-Speed Cotal Pre-Selector Gearbox
4-Wheel Cable-Operated Drum Brakes
Front Independent Suspension with Transverse Leaf Spring
Rear Live Axle with Semi-Elliptical Leaf Springs
As I walked through the "French tent", actually all five tents, this is the car that I would have wanted to take home.
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9 hours ago, alsancle said:
Full wood job.
EDIT: Also, if you are going to bother to do it, it has to be to Pebble standards. That is not what people typically think of as a restoration. The word "restoration" means different things to different people. If the wrong shop touches that car, or the job is not done 100% correctly the end result is a car worth no more than what it is now.
Hmmmm..... if you replace the wood, that really affects the value negatively.... or so I've been told.
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13 hours ago, alsancle said:
I don't think you would get too far. The car needs 200k in mechanical sorting, minimum, to be "roadworthy".
It's already been done.
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3 hours ago, B Jake Moran said:
What bothers me is that that magazine was considered a legitimate old car hobby collector magazine at the time. It was one of the 1st magazines I purchased in 1978 when I got into the hobby.
It was my introduction to some excellent writers like Richard Langworth and others from that generation.
I'm just not sure how this farce got past the editors. Now, looking in Hemmings Classic Cars, Muscle Machines, and so on, photos of the restoration, documentation etc are considered a requirement.
Well.... I was one of the editors. All I can say is that sometimes mistakes happen. It's been so long ago that I do not remember any of the logistics in regard to how that story was sent, who knew who, or anything like that, but I do know that there was absolutely no controversy about it at the time we printed it, nor was there any backlash at the time.
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3 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said:
Back to this Lincoln for a moment, I find it interesting that having too many vertical elements, and thus, too many segments, adds great length to the overall. I suppose that is the nature of optical illusion. Do any of you agree?
Not in my opinion. It'd look longer without the fence posts.
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... and sometimes contact lenses come without knife handles...
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47 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
Did Lincoln really produce 12 "Colour Cars" for various
regions?
Yes, but actually, Ford called them "Trim and Color" cars. Many, if not most of them, fell into obscurity and without any fan-fare. They were actual production cars with fancy trim and color, so they could, and would be sold to customers. Once "used up," they were neglected and sent to the back of the property or to a junk yard. The "color and trim" cars were way overshadowed by the true concept cars. In 1955, Ford's Futura was gaining all the publicity. No one bothered turning around to photograph a regular production car with unique color and upholstery.
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My mother used to buy door-knockers and give them for Christmas presents.
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Wellllll..... that didn't take too long. He's back. Just bring up poor design tastes, and he can't help himself.
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16 hours ago, V16 said:
Here is the car after an accident in December of 1949. I believe this car is in the Collier collection today. If for some reason they think the car is now devalued because it was in a serious wreck I would like them to know that I will be pleased to take it off their hands for a greatly reduced amount.
Doesn't look nearly as bad of a wreck as what happened to the convertible sedan that sold at Pebble last year. In that case, the accident greatly affected the value of the car. That said, the phaeton is soooo much more rare than the convertible sedan, and this one not needing much more than a fender and possibly a little suspension work, it's value is probably not affected at all.
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On 2/18/2024 at 9:37 PM, Matt Goist said:
I really do enjoy this thread, its turning into somewhat of a timeline for these amazing Individual Customs. I thought you all may enjoy a few photos of the 1006 Dietrich Coupe we have here. I just finished some major repairs and refurbishments on it.
I had the hood off during the repairs, testing and torquing period for the head studs. We almost left it off 😆 This car needed some very invasive engine work due to sitting....DRIVE YOUR CARS!! 🙂 Catch it in Miami at the MODA Concours on March 2nd and 3rd!
Nice to see it without the trunk on it. Nothing spoils the lines of a prewar car as much as a trunk on the luggage rack. Good for touring, but when you get home, unpack and put the trunk away.
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The first two here are from 1932 in Detroit. The third is from 1935 in D.C.
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35 minutes ago, Hemi Joel said:
Interesting picture. Those skirted fenders really hurt the looks of the car in my opinion.
I'm going to take a guess that it will hammer at 3.5 million.
Since there are no skeletons in the closet of this one, I'm going to agree with you. No body, engine or chassis swap. A complete "numbers matching" car.
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I heard him speak at a local CCCA dinner, but I did not speak to him directly.
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So far, the fenders have just been cut back to the original metal. The beed around the edge has not yet been added.
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13 hours ago, ex98thdrill said:
Yeah with me being retired, I'm going. The plan next year is to leave Saturday, take a quick tour of Hershey and then drive down to my sister's house in West Virginia. Leave Monday and take a tour of the Wood Brother's Museum in Stuart, Virginia and spend the night wherever I decide to stop. Tuesday I want to visit King Richard's museum in Level Cross, stop and see the Childress Museum and roll into the convention hotel Tuesday night. Spend Wednesday going to the NASCAR Hall of Fame, Thursday going to the local race shops, and start the convention on Thursday. I already have the bulk of two seminars ready so if I present a seminar or two I can, if not, I'll listen to someone else's. I will go there for an Annual Meeting, but I'll never take a car there for a meet.
If you're coming down I-85, don't forget to stop at the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer, just a couple miles off the freeway and just 25 miles north of Concord. I highly recommend it.
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Photos? Never heard of a Dietrich-style top. Can your customer expand on what he means?
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13 hours ago, V16 said:
Was going thru some of my old files of Duesenberg materials and came across this photo of J-346 which I did not realize I had because I did not know the car still existed till this summer when it surfaced after decades of hidden storage. Had the pleasure of meeting and talking to the new owner who was very gracious about sharing his car and it's history. Now I see it is going to auction at Amelia and thought this photo both interesting and timely. The photo was taken in Cincinnatti in the 50's and the owner is listed as William A. Burns Jr. Looks to have 30 Cad 16 headlights and wears a license plate XP 22. What do you suppose the last unrestored J Murphy Disappearing top roadster will realize at this sale?
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The same photo is one that appeared in our July/August issue of Antique Automobile, with the full story on the car.
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I'm just shaking my head.... Took me aback, too. His thread did not appear to be something serious by any stretch of the imagination. For it to have gone the course it did was definitely not surprising. He must have gotten out on the wrong side of the bed or something.
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On 2/15/2024 at 2:56 PM, 76 Caddy said:
Today I had it brought home.
My winter beater while in college was the 2-door version of this car, with the concave rear window. Driving down the freeway during hard snow falls, that rear window would completely fill up with snow. Poor design in that regard, but it looked really cool. The 400cid V-8 sucked a lot of gas.
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Anybody else here run in the Soap Box Derby?
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Here is the clipping from the Akron Journal, showing A.J. in heat 10, and Brian Bernat in heat 21