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On 6/16/2024 at 1:33 PM, Ray62 said:
I've been looking at listings on Hemmings, Craigslist, FB Marketplace, etc. for foreign convertibles (MG, Triumph, etc.) and I keep seeing listings for Mercedes 450SL's from the 70's at what I consider quite reasonable prices. Some are under 10 thousand and many more are listed if you look up into the mid to high teen thousands. Many, but not all, look quite nice for the money. I'm not very knowledgeable on Mercedes and I'm wondering if these cars are just underappreciated or is there are reason to avoid them. Thanks in advance for any insight those that are experienced with Mercedes can provide.
I think it's mostly an indication of just how many were built, over a terribly long production run.
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1 hour ago, theconvertibleguy said:
If I had paid to have this "work" done, my next step would be to pay a lawyer to sue them into space.
Usually this kind of work isn't discovered until two or three owners down the road.
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On 5/29/2024 at 7:41 AM, John Bloom said:
... I did read someone comparing them to some of the Auburn sedans of that era. It is a pretty handsome sedan, straight 8. Attractive dash and body lines.
That's not much of a comparison. The Nash stands up to Packards of the day.
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One big thing of note with this car, other than it being in really nice condition, is the 4-speed gearbox. It is an entirely different car than one equipped with an automatic. If the only Pinto you've ever driven is an automatic, and you paint with a wide brush on how bad all Pintos are, you're not fully aware. These are actually quite fun and zippy cars to drive with the manual transmission. That said, I agree that $4-5,000 is more in line with reality. Posting its mileage and few more photos of the interior and engine compartment revealing something that could be detailed for show might raise the value a little bit, too. If the interior is not good enough to clean and show, and the engine compartment is a mess, then I'd say less than the $4-5.
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12 hours ago, Hans1965 said:
What's not to like on this car? It is fully restored, I cannot see any bad looking screw even. Price seems to be very fair for what you would get. We are just living in a world of bargain hunters, myself included. The attention to detail is amazing. Someone really pumped money in this car as there is no tomorrow. Good for the buyer. These are big and impressive cars. This one will find a home. If you buy a good running unrestored one it will cost you 15 grand and for the nut and bolt resto you pay only 17 grand more... excellent value.
You don't know until you inspect it personally. Those hub caps are easy to find in good condition. My thought is, if they skimped on something so simple and sooooo obviously incorrect, where else have they skimped. The antenna doesn't seem to fit properly, wrong hose clamps, the appearance of some house plumbing going on around the radiator.... Perhaps all easy and or inexpensive things to correct, but how many items does one correct before it gets to be too much?
"Value" and "Retail Value" are two entirely different things.
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There were mechanical issues according to John Lauter, who knows the car and owner who had it restored many moons ago. Basically, its engine was done by a "gas station" type mechanic, just good enough to make it run back in the day. New owner is looking at a $75k overhaul, plus a $100k paint job.
My brother just recently sold a much more desirable 40,000-mile 1935 Packard Twelve convertible victoria in ready to tour condition for $165k, so you can see how the terribly done sedan is a terrible investment.
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The last three posts of this thread are by brand new members. I hid the first one, then two more have now appeared. Does this go again our rules?
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Looks like 1940 Super Eight. Possibly 1939 as well???
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2 hours ago, B Jake Moran said:
No one would do without AC in their modern daily driver, so why do owners of old cars cringe at the thought of correcting an AC system?
As Matt said, they tend to not stay working very long. I have a 1940 Packard with a/c, and because the car is not used very often, I have never attempted to get the system working, even though ALL the components are there (usually the compressor is gone). The cost to get it working will involve an expert who will not screw up the "impossible-to-replace" compressor. Once working, it may get used once per year, and the following year, it may not work again. Why spend the money unless/until I start using the car regularly and on July/August tours???
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20 hours ago, Mark Shaw said:
I checked the 2023 November - December issue of The Gazette and there is no Statement of Ownership in the back of the magazine. I also checked the September - October issue.
West, are you referring to this USPS requirement?
Form 3526A Statement of Ownership, Management, and Circulation is required for all Periodicals publications annually on or before the first of October1. The publisher of each publication authorized Periodicals mailing privileges as a general or requester publication must publish a complete statement of ownership, containing all information required by Form 3526, in an issue of the publication to which that statement relates23. The USPS Statement of Ownership, Management, and Circulation, also known as PS Form 3526, is required by the Post Office annually to show proof of continued eligibility for mailing under a Periodical Permit4.Yes
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21 hours ago, Mark Shaw said:
Not true. Only listings there are for affiliated registers and regional groups, no actual membership numbers.
It's federal law. It has to be there. The document is called "Statement of Ownership."
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1 hour ago, Mark Shaw said:
Anybody know the number of HCCA members? They only list members with pre-1916 vehicles in their roster.
I suggest that car clubs should list all members. And they should show a 5–10-year history of membership to make their current members aware of how much clubs are growing or declining. Perhaps this would help motivate members to recruit more to save their clubs from fading away.
You're a member of HCCA. You can easily find out by looking in the back of your December issue of its magazine.
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On 5/31/2024 at 7:58 PM, MGRAB said:
IMHO, the area is too congested.
^ Yup, this.
Also, I suspect that most car owners dedicated to authenticity are also not interested in small local shows. I frequently take my cars all over the country to show at National judged events. Spending tons of money, time, and resources in making a car exactly like the factory made it is rewarded by national recognition. To receive a local trophy voted upon by (many times) people who don't know much about what they're looking at is not wanted. Personally, I'd much rather spend the day driving my car out in the country.
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In most cases, a boat covering does not touch the "colored" surface. As Mr. Herrera said, they usually just cover the top portion of the boat, which is frame in stainless steel or rubber bumpers. A cover on a car touches the paint EVERYWHERE.
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I recently saw a post showing a boat being towed with a loose cover, and the ruthless comments following were regarding how the finish of the boat would be ruined. So, as Philip says, the cover on the boat needs to be specific to a particular boat, and fit tight.
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I don't suppose this one would work:
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/879572617547393/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment
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3 hours ago, alsancle said:
34 Packard 12 is the nads. You need to paint the yellow black along with the wheels and throw the whitewalls and pilot rays in the trash.
Yes, it helps considerably. But now instead of a circus car, you have a halloween car. And after all that effort, one should just as well go the full respray,
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Both logos on the right and left say "Buick" in its normal slant. The one on the left looks like it says "Valve in Head".
Where did the photo originate? Is it possible to get a better scan of it?
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1 hour ago, Dan Milbourne said:
I have it on ebay right now as poster error.
??? But it's not an error. The poster does not say "Pace Truck" it says "Official Truck." There are Official Trucks used every single year.
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I have 55-year-old tires on my 1970 Camaro. I've been told not to drive on them for safety reasons. I respond with, "I won't drive on them because they're too valuable." (The single most difficult factory-supplied muscle-car-era tire to find.... or so I've been told. Estimated value: $1,500+ per tire.)
Actually, I do drive on them, but only on short jaunts around town, or up into the trailer.
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38 minutes ago, 60FlatTop said:
The first thought that comes to my mind is the guy who asks if he can have a receipt for a lower amount.
Which doesn't make any sense, really. When he finally decides to sell "at retail," he'll be paying the piper anyway.
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