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Dave, Wow, that was you? I saw photos of your car years ago and thought "hmmm...another example of mythic Buick survivability!" ...glad you made it! God Speed,

David, That was a great reply on this post! I actually like all of the big luxury power houses and just happen to think Buick is the best! Yesterday evening I went for a cruise in my cherry '70 Electra 225 coupe. As I pulled over to check my carb, found a vacuum leak, a yellow Cobra convertible passed on the highway. I tracked them down a few miles later and they flagged me down. Mark said there can't be too many big Buick Electra people around here so I knew it was you! Mark is the librarian at the Watkins Glen museum of racing and the Cobra was a raffle car. Mark and his brother were delivering it to the museum to be rafffled later in the summer. Word had gotten to them about my Electra GSX project and the museum took me and Gary Shaw, our deceased chassis man, out to lunch one afternoon! Well the point is that these guys have seen everything from Maxwells to Rolls Royce, from Ferrari Daytonas to REAL Cobras, and have got saved BUICK 430s IN THEIR BASEMENT! One brother has a '67 Wildcat and the other loves Buick as well! They made me feel really good about being a Buick man! Now I did not pass up a drive in that 5 speed 351 Cobra! That was a treat but it sure was chilly with the top down!

Yo Buickman67, Nice time slip on that big '71! . I suspect that both you and Smartin's cars are somewhat similar hence the comparable times. A combination of low end torque build up in the 455 and the 430's higher rpm power range may be why the '71 will outpace a '69 in the early stages. in the end the '69 Electra wins with a 15.2 or so vs a 15.5 or so. Hmmmm! Ultimately, we are talking about 3/10 of a second or so. The '71 Electra is rated at 315HP at 4,600?, I forget. The '69 Electra's 430 is rated at 360 HP at 5,000 RPM. Is the difference between the '71 and the '69 truely 45hp? Well, if you figure 10 HP is equal to 1/10 of a second and powering past from behind requires a bit more, there goes your 45 hp! (10 HP per 1/10 being an old drag racers rule of thumb for a 13 to 16 second or so car.) It would be fun to program a virtual model of these cars and race on-line since we are pretty far from eachother. But if we spent hours doing that we would not be racers would we?!? . Bottom line is that the low compression '71 Buick probably have much more power that the Chevy, Pontiac, Ford, Olds, or Chrysler big blocks that essentially became slugs without their high compression ratios. (If you have other inputs let me know but I believe I am right.) Remember that the Buick was the last major big block design to come out of Detroit and was more advanced than the others to begin with. The 400-430-455 series, particularly the 455, made more power with less CR, was lighter, and the valve seats could withstrand unleaded fuel. It was probably poor planning on Buick's part to introduce a new series of big blocks at the end of the musclecar era but you and I are the proud and fortunate beneficiaries of millions of dollars of research, development, engineering, and manufacturing! Kinda makes you feel proud of what you have don't it?

'55 Here are the particulars. Its about 2 hours or less from where I live. 2005 BCA National Meet, July 6-10, 2005, Holiday Inn, Batavia, NY. Best regards,

We had seven or so days of sun shine here in the frozen north country. It looks like my neck of the woods is finally thawing out after a long six month winter. I can now start doing some more detailing on the car. There are some mechanical things that were done over the winter but it was tough to go out into that cold garage and do them. The Energy Suspension bushings that appeared suspciously in the catalog for the '69 Buick Electra did not fit afterall. Another let down. The item number was 3.3169 or something like that. It was a worthless exercise in frustration which I never quite get used to. Its back to square one on making a set of custom bushings. The front rotors, another part that no one has, were found to be at a .96 thickness which is still within spec for operation. This will suffice for our first year of operation. I will have to take this hub, cut the rotors off, and bolt on racing rotors next year. My Wilwood calipers were designed to take up to a 1.25" wide rotor. I will try to get a 13.5" diameter rotor but I only see 12" bolt ons at the moment. The under hood photos show the prep work that I am undergoing to detail the car out for the Buick National Meet coming up. I sandblasted the rotos, power steering pump, painted them as well as and the master cylinder and booster. I also spent MUCH MUCH time and SERIOUS elbo grease hand polishing the PS ENGINEERING Kidney Bean rims. They are similar to the HALIBRAND's, believed to be the best in the world by many. PS used to make castings for HALI years ago. It takes about three hours to get each one into fair shape. Setting them up for painting the inserts was another challenge. There are 12 areas that have to be taped off. templated and measurements had to be done. Also each of the Kidney air holes are slightly different in shape. It made me realize that this thing was built before the CNC age of Computer Aided Design and dial it into a multi axis milling machine. The rims are truely hand made hand cast, hand finished works of art. The Kookie Kutter Kamaro Kustom cars on those rodder shows GET THE cnc BILLET STUFF AND ALL THEIR PARTS CAN BE GOTTEN FROM ANY FREE CATALOG. THE CARS GET BUILT IN DAYS. BUT I'M NOT BITTER. Oops CAPLOCK was on!!! The PS ENGINEERING rims I bought back in 1999 were hand cast and took three months to cast weld, polish, balance. The guy had a long backlog too!!! Things are shaping up and my vision for this car appears to coming into focus. There are so many more things we need that its hard to say whn we will be done. When the time comes for us to hit our committments for dates, ready or not she launches!!!

Bama, The 1964 was a really nice year for the Buick Wildcat. It was a really Cool Cat with great power and looks to match. I am replacing my master cylinder and booster on my 1969 Buick Electra "GSX". I am using the stock Bendix unit because it was a very good unit with enough capacity for my 4 wheel Wilwood calipers and helps keep the stock look under the hood. Here is some of the info you wanted but REMEMBER I am working with a '69. 1. Your photo of '64 looks identical to my '69. I suspect your photos are switched but you can confirm this by looking for either circular or diamond monting recess on your master cylinder. 2. My '69 studs are on 3.5" centers 3. '69 Stud length should be standard and the firewall thickness was probably the same. 4. There may be a capacity difference (Bore and Stroke of the cylinder) which may translate to a difference in pedal travel, feel, and braking effectiveness. (It may improve with the '67 but I am not sure.) 5. You did not note the pressure metering valve. Maybe the '67 had one, maybe not, I really do not know. These pesky things are bolted to the master cylinder and do not come with the package when you order the combo. They are tough to find and the old ones may not work. If anyone knows how to find one let me know! 6. Lastly, Autozone will sell you a rebuilt Booster and Master Cylinder combo for $90. Mind you that they want much more for both components purchased separately. Buy yours before they figure that out. My experiences are with a 1969 Electra however from '67 to '70 there was much interchangeability. Good luck!

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As you can see, I have added some detail to the stripe and it still being developed. The 332nd Fighter Group crest "Spitfire" with the panther. There are still lots of details to add however. I drilled the hole in the hood for the hood tachometer. The tach is located slightly to the left and closer to the driver than the standard GSX. The position is based on dominant left eye and unobstructed road view at extreme speed where seeing as much of the road as possible is crucial. Some old MIL std. Human Engineering knowledge can come a long way or just make me dangerous! WE WILL SEE! I spread plastic under the hood and cut into it from the bottom. I also put plastic and magnets on the top of the hood. There were many micron sized metal shavings captured on the top side and a huge amount of heavy steel particles and chips on the plastic over the engine. I washed the areas with a wet paper towel with magnets inside of it. There were some micron sized particles that were attached, even after a light wash. The challenge is to remove any particles that could be ground into the finish when wiping it down. Even though it is a race car, its hard to let the fabulous paint work be damaged due to willful negligence. The electrical hookup will be done over the weekend. God Speed,

Practicing Christianity as a Catholic racer has its own challenges. There are great responsibilities that come along with acknowledgeing God, family, and knowing all those things come before the fun and expense of racing. Knowledge of the long suffering and illness that Pope John Paul, II, of the Roman Catholic Faith, has endured has brought many of us great cause for saddness and the same time reason to rejoice as soon he will go to God. Going back to 1979 or so I drove the Faithful Pursuit, then my flat black, Thrush exhaust, beat up daily driver to the old Academy of Aeronautics, now the Vaughn College of Aeronautics & Technology, near La Guardia Airport in Queens, NY. One sunny evening evening, as I stopped at a light preparing to go onto the Grand Central Parkway, the calm was shattered by the squeal of tires as a car came careening nearly out of control, fishtailing wildly as it crossed in front of me and the two or so lanes of traffic I was at the head of. Several police cars wheeled around the intersection, not in pursuit, but ushering everyone out of the way escorting a large black limosine. The police PA system blared "Thats right, lose it turkey!!!" as the hapless and traumatized driver fishtailed from side to side and finally pulled it over and out of the way of the onrushing motorcade. As the limo rounded the intersection in front of my old Buick, I caught a glimse of the man in white, Pope John Paul, II! I have often been on my knees in prayer during this 22 year long odyssey of a restoration project. Through three major medical setbacks and the deaths of two great supporters of my efforts, the "Faithful Pursuit" is now nearly complete. The link is off the Buick Club of America Page. http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/showflat....;o=&fpart=5 When I think of those early days driving my car to college, I often think about how surreal that Papal experience was. Perhaps it was a decoy motorcade? Was it really him? It sure was intense! All I can say is, God Speed John Paul II

04/02/05 9:16am Practicing Christianity as a Catholic racer has its own challenges. There are great responsibilities that come along with acknowledging God, family, and knowing all those things come before the fun and expense of racing. Knowledge of the long suffering and illness that Pope John Paul, II, of the Roman Catholic Faith, has endured has brought many of us great cause for sadness and the same time reason to rejoice as soon he will go to God. Going back to 1979 or so I drove the Faithful Pursuit, then my flat black, Thrush exhaust, beat up daily driver (1969 Buick Electra 225 Sport Coupe) to the old Academy of Aeronautics, now the Vaughn College of Aeronautics & Technology, near La Guardia Airport in Queens, NY. One sunny evening, as I stopped at a light preparing to go onto the Grand Central Parkway, the calm was shattered by the squeal of tires as a car came careening nearly out of control, fishtailing wildly as it crossed in front of me and the two or so lanes of traffic I was at the head of. Several police cars wheeled around the intersection, not in pursuit, but ushering everyone out of the way escorting a large black limousine. The police PA system blared "That?s right, lose it turkey!!!" as the hapless and traumatized driver fishtailed from side to side and finally pulled it over and out of the way of the onrushing motorcade. As the limo rounded the intersection in front of my old Buick, I caught a glimpse of the man in white, Pope John Paul, II! I often think about how surreal that experience was. Perhaps it was a decoy motorcade? It sure was intense! All I can say is, God Speed John Paul II PS: 4-7-05: The Pope passed on later the day this message was originally posted on Collective Automobile Discussion Forum, Buick Club of America Web Page. I visited the Vaughn College of Aeronautics and asked a few of the long timers about the Pope's police escort. It appears that the Pope did indeed drive past in his limo all those years ago. Chances are we received his blessing, for which I am grateful!!! -------------------- BqUICK

Big Buick Lovers, This site has about 50 that right 50 Buick Electras! Stocks, customs, low riders, and more. http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/search_results.cgi?make=Buick&model=Electra Enjoy,

John, Here is a tentative schedule. Roy Hopkins will be at Watkins Glen International Raceway with the BMW club. We will have to confirm if we can drive the Electra GSX at this weekend BMW event. As some of you know, Roy is our pro driver and a BMW racer. He has a really mean 400 hp factory racer. Hopkins came in First-In-Class at the 2004 One Lap of America, run annually by racing legend Brock Yates. WATKINS GLEN INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY Fri - Sun 5/13/05 - 5/15/05 BMW - Genesee Valley Region Instructional/Non-Competitive For those of you who can attend, it should be interesting. The racer will be run mildly and the suspension and other systems assessed for their performance. We will be working out the kinks over the summer and will be in Nevada on route 318 in the fall. God Speed,

Hi, Most of you folks may not realize just how much work there has still yet to be done. You are not alone, neither did we! In our quest to retain originality of the Buick we worked to maintain many of the original components where possible, namely, chassis, front suspension upper and lower control arms, spindles, floor, front firewall. Our engine is a real Buick engine and even the transmission has the Buick codes on the ID plate. We have however extensively modified all of these pieces. The suspension arms, brakes, floor, and rear firewall were not easy and Machuga Chassis did some masterful metal work. All of these modifications required an inordinate amount of man-years of labor, 1+ by my estimate. Since no parts exist in many cases, the hand fabrication of custom parts and modified parts was extensive. Thankfully Machuga Chassis fell in love with the car and Dave told me "We will charge you for what we figure out, not the development" What a guy! Here is a simple example to give you a flavor for our issues. I finally received the specially modified ENERGY SUSPENSION bushings for the upper control arms. As they are not a stock item, I had to have an ENERGY SUSPENSION guy rummage by hand through their stock and find units that were close enough for us to modify. That took about 3 weeks of mailing samples back and forth. In the end they gave me the four units for free! They told me just tell everyone where I got them from. THANKS ENERGY SUSPENSION!!! The hardened centers resisted our attempts to cut as you may remember. This was probably 6 months or so ago. The bushings finally came back from being modified on Friday. They have been cut down in length and their shaft hole reamed. One of them does not seem to fit and will have to be massaged a bit more. After working to get them in with a rubber mallet, I realized that stock upper A arms, that were extensively modified, appear to have warped a bit. If I cannot get the units back together, a stress relieve step may be required. The A arms were first cut to facilitate CARRERA shock placement outside of the spring tower. This required Machuga's masterful metal working skill. I watched as he used the plasma cutter to carefully cut out a portion of the top part of the plate, retaining the structural lip, and pound the lip into place around the new contour of the part. He then used some steel tubing to reinforce the unit by welding under the arms of the unit. In the end it was a stronger lighter unit that still looked stock. I suppose we are officially car crazy. It would have been cheaper at this point to have some tubular A arms custom made for $500 - $600 bucks and be done with it. The balance of the suspension parts have simply been painted grey. This will help us to identify trouble spots quickly. One of the powder coaters I talked to told me "If you are serious about racing, don't waste your money powder coating. Paint them Penske grey" He said Roger Penske would paint his suspension parts grey to detect trouble areas, such as cracks, early. Lots of racers still do that and for good reason. When she is ready to retire, then we can prep her for the show circuit, until then she's a working girl. We are placing our focus on the front end. We have ordered new tie rod ends and we already had a new center link and idler arm. Some of the parts will not be here for another week. The Romac balancer is finally here and that was another story! Hood tachometer is here too finally and it is reall going to look Functionally Cool on the hood. You'all have a happy Easter and may God Speed you safely on your way,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, how is the project going? Are you still on schedule? How do I get a copy of the video mentioned on the Buick site? What major progress has been made since I last spoke with you and what is left to be done. I know it is close to show time. Cal </div></div> We are getting closer to our target Watkins Glen International Raceway trials in April/May. A team meeting is tentatively scheduled for April 1st but may be moved to the following week. I invited a Safety engineer, a crew member, an aerodynamics person, and an engineer. They all are interested in the project but we will see how the team shapes up. Dave Machuga and other friends are still supportive and helping out. I ordered several parts on the list. 1. Roller Rockers and stud kit. 2. High torque light weight mini starter 3. Cast Aluminum Valve Covers, custom machined. 4. Hood Tachometer 5. Other msc. parts 6. Romac Harmonic Balancer I need a front spoiler with ram air induction, ceramic brake pads, rear sway bar, etc., etc, there is still a lot we need including a truck and trailer!!! Well, there goes my annual bonus (again)! We are working on a web site to hang the video. Stay tuned!

Hi, We need to buy a few parts for the Electra GSX. Romac Balancer TA Roller Rockers and Spare rockers Front Spoiler Front Spoiler baffle Front Electra Rotors '68 - '70 100 GPH fuel pump 4 - 12 psi adjustable pressure regulator Let me know what you have. Thanks! God Speed,

JM in TX, RE: "I do have one question for now. On the trunk lid, driver's side, there is a bezel that says Police Interceptor. Is this common, as I have not seen one of these cars with that item before? " The "Police Interceptor" badge comes with cars that have been certified for police duty. It typical to see Chevy Impalas, Crown Victoria?s but not Buicks. There were some Buick Grand Nationals that were used in a few jurisdictions in the US. Some cars were seized vehicles now hitched to the good guy?s team. Camaros, GNs, T-Types, and probably other ?hot cars? did police duty. Some Buicks were used by members of the FBI, about 100 such cars were ordered from the factory I think. I do not know if the FBI GNs had to be certified as Police Interceptors. Different law enforcement agencies had varying specifications for what one trooper described to me as simply a "Special Options Package" for their cruiser. Your car is probably pretty rare. I just have a passing knowledge and no specs on how many cars were ?Police Interceptors?. Welcome aboard and good luck with your new Buick! God Speed,

All, we spent a few weeks compiling pictures and video slices for a brief promotional video lasting about 1.5 minutes total. If you are interested in a copy to help us with sponsorship or for personal enjoyment, let me know. maj2nd@aol.com. We will try to put it online so it is free for everyone. If you guys are interested we let you see it first, otherwise it will be unvieled at the National Buick Meet in Batavia, NY. God Speed,

Yo Wheeliedog, The FORD 9" looks great! You made the right choice since the Buick 9-3/8" 3.91 is super rare! You might find some old racer/chassis builder types who can take on any job to help out. My project took off once I found the right folks who did not think I was crazy for wanting to build a 200mph American Luxury sedan. Who knows, maybe it will actually catch on someday! God Speed,

GS, Thanks for the ASA reference. There is one thing that I found out through all of this is that its ok to quit, just pick it up one more time than you do and things will be fine. I must have quit a half dozen times and taken a few months only to find out I could not live without it. Let me have the ASA information and we can see if it fits. Also, I realized that my team has been made up of people who did not take no for an answer. Maybe we need to find a publicist who likes "impossible" projects! Thanks!

GS, Good to hear from you again! Thanks for the backup. "10225" views! Wow! I was figuring about 100 when I started this about two years ago. After 20 years of being frustrated by vendors, speed shops, and countless others telling me nobody cared about Buick Electras and what I was trying to do was impossible anyway, it was good to finally find people like Gary Shaw and Dave Machuga who wanted to fabricate the car. Gary and Dave loved it when people said they can't do stuff!!!! The "hits" lets me know that either people really care or they just like wierd stuff. Thanks all the same. There is a lot of "business" stuff that I have been pouring man-weeks into. Its wierd to not be wrenching into the wee hours but crafting sponsorship letters till 2am! This is the stuff thats hard and we still lose the wrench time! Now we have to convince people to support a racing effort they have never heard of and a car they never knew had a racing pedigree. The people "in the business" have been telling me a 200 mph Electra is impossible for 20 years! OKAY...No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Chevy power!!!!! Its Buick or bust!!! No, I wont run a Corvette, Firebird, or even a Riviera body for the 100th time. It will be a 1969 Buick Electra. That's the whole point, it has to big and massive like the Tuskegee Airmen's WWII P-47 Thunderbolt or the whole point of this does not fly. The Buick Electra was the fastest of the big luxury cars including the 300 Hurst, XL-100, Caddy, etc. etc. read the "Das Boat" article. She was America's pride on the open road. I dont care if it takes 1200 hp and four wheel drive to make it go, we'll use a twin turbo V-6 if the new V-8 cannot sustain the horses, by 2009 we will break 200! It is reassuring to know that if you dont give up, maybe dreams can still come true in America! We shall see.

Thanks man! I like your site too. There are few sites with people doing Electra work. Its nice to see yours. Thanks for putting up my conceptual drawing for the "Cobalt Man" Electra. I developed that car several years ago. There is a wilder GMC 671 Supercharged version as well. On a side note, I have since worked for an outfit that used REAL radioactive cobalt for sterilization purposes. They keep the stuff behind shielding 50 feet deep in pool of water. When the door is open, talk about a wild blue glow, its more like neon! Scary as hell but really cool! Check out "Dont be Pissed" its a nice Electra thread here as well. I wish you the best of luck with your Pursuit. Let me know if I can be of help. Perhaps you can start a fresh thread and use it to ask questions about parts availability too. There are a few people into the big rolling stock and can help. God Speed,

John, Thanks for your offer of help. You do not need a particularly fast car to do what I have in mind. We just need to document the chassis tuning and look at how the car responds under certain conditions. Video taping will give us a good idea of how to tune and serve as a record. I live in Corning so it would be great to meet here for the Buick meet in Batavia. You can contact me at maj2nd@aol.com Thanks!

All, I love that photo Smartin posted for me. The Electra GSX is in my garage for the moment, and I took a few photos of the blacked out nose and new GSX and STAGE 1 emblems on the grille. It really looks kool . I promise better shots once she runs at Watkins Glen International this spring. We are ready for the final push of mods the Faithful Pursuit will carry into Nevada. Here are the top 7 things out of a list of about 50!: 1. Hood Tachometer 2. Hardened Transmission input shaft 3. Harmonic Balancer 4. Roller Rockers 5. 26' Trailer 6. 1 Ton tow van or vehicle 7. Volunteers for support in Batavia, Orlando, Nevada This is the final push to get these things together. The car goes back to Machuga Chassis for four point scale, rear sway bar, rear spoiler setup, among other things. There is still so much to do but we are still largely on schedule. I spoke to a video expert about how to "shoot" Watkins Glen this spring. Lorey Gastel owns "Noah's Ark" video in Corning and sponsored me in front of his store for the annual race fever program last September. He has videoed local Motorsports Hall of Fame inductee Gary Shaw, our first chassis builder, at Watkins Glen international Raceway many years ago. The late Gary Shaw still holds a track record there for his B Production 1964 Corvette convertible. Lorey said there are lots of cameras and crew, even a director that video the scenes when they televise races at Watkins. He said it would be best to put cameras in cars and do a car in front, one behind and take video from a few spots on the side of the road. If anyone out there wants to drive at Watkins to help me get video of this monster, let me know! I spoke to Lorna, Gary's daughter two days ago. She told me that Jake, her son, looks more like his grand dad every day. He's a junior working hard to get into Cornell. Jim Cendoma, local businessman, and Faithful Pursuit racing enthusiast was present and I introduced him and his wife to Lorna. We chatted about Gary who we all knew. I showed them the latest photos and sponsorship request letters. It was good to see Lorna again. Well, its another "O Dark Thirty" communication to you Buick lovers out there. We still have high hopes but the cold makes it tough to get motivated! When we finally get back to Machuga Chassis, currently building two race chassis, and a street rod '36 Chevy coupe, things will pick up again! Also, keep up your prayers for our Tuskegee Airmen. Bill Wheeler was one of the Tuskegee Airmen that came to our Faithful Pursuit unveiling event back in April. We buried Minnie Wheeler, his wife of 59 years, around Christmas time . Bill is on page two of the news article posted here back in April. I was glad that I was able to drive down and spend time with him and the rest of the Airmen and friends at the funeral. Through it all, Bill took the time to introduce me to all of his close family and ask me how I was doing. After the service, Chapter president Col. Ed Monroe and his wife drove me to the burial site. It was a cold beautiful sunny evening in Long Island, NY, 300 or so miles from my home. Our prayers go with Bill and his children. God Speed,

As we prepare for our Spring trial runs which were delayed last year, I am checking into some of the known problems we did not address. First, we know we will need sponsorship to get us to Nevada in September so we are drafting a letter to a few potential sponsors. This has been a largely privately funded activity, however I've gone really, really, far on my own. Perhaps too far! I thank all of those like Cal and Dave Machuga, Machuga Chassis, who have helped too. Now we need to get some more help. Our fuel system needs some work as the Holley Blue Pump flowing 70gph will not be sufficient to meet the needs of 15' or so .5" lines. I suppose we just were not thinking and now we have to spend the same money over to do it right. This is why this project costs so much. There are so many details that must be handled properly and you just cannot say, "well, so what if its not done right?". If this were a hot rod you could get away with short cuts. Since we are racing...well you know! Looks like Faithful Pursuit driver Roy Hopkins is cleared for the September race date. We talked yesterday and will have a team meeting in another month or so. The rest of the team has to get squared away on travel, time off from work etc. This is going to be interesting! The Buick Nationals are coming up this summer and we will be there too. It will be the first time the big Buick has ever been featured at a car show! The Tuskegee Airmen, Inc. of New York are really interested in the program and I received some nice literature from fighter pilot Harry Stewart. I will ask Smartin to post photos of the aircraft the Buick represents. All in all I think we are on track. Its getting close and I feel butterflies from time to time. After 22 years of planning it will be exciting to see this desert dream come true. God Speed,

The quality is a little thin but the point is made! http://www.geocities.com/xoghar/burnout76.mpeg God Speed,