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For sale: 1955 Packard 400 2 door hard top, 39,000 miles, valve job just done, runs great, a solid car with V8, automatic, radio, torsion level suspension, white body with a slight green tint and a very dark green metallic (almost black) top and rockers, nice original white leather / black cloth interior with blue/green trim. Rear fenders have side trim that goes all the way back like a 56, installed by dealer when new. Complete car that needs paint for show, can use as a driver as is, purchased from the estate of the original owner, whose mother bought a 55 Patrician at the same time - I have that for sale also. Asking $10,000 Dave Mitchell - packard12s@hotmail.com
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I have a Triple B trailer (Mascoutah, IL)that is almost all aluminum and I had it custom made extra tall as a couple of my cars - the 41 Packard Bohman & Schwartz limo and my Cad 16 town car are pretty tall - still not quite as tall as your 1916. I had a slope nose put on it and extra heavy axles and brakes and all soldered heavy duty wiring and sealed lights, along with heavier floor braces and plenty of D rings in the floor to tie down with in different places for different cars. I have had great luck with it. I bought mine about 8 years ago and have put quite a few miles on it. It isn't as expensive as a Featherlight, Sooner or CC, but gives excellent service and tows great. I also got an aluminum floor which makes it easier if you ever haul parts or pallets of rusty old car parts like I do. I like the 24ft length, as you can move a car around in the trailer to get a perfect weight balance - which can make a big difference. I used a 20 ft for a while and it was too tight and a 26 foot was more than I needed and became awkward to drive. The other thing is to get really good wheels and tires - I even got rims that match the Chevy that I tow it with and that gives you one more spare that will interchange. Blown trailer tires are very dangerous as well as annoying and you will find cheap tires not up to the weight limit of the trailer on a lot of units on the road. Other nice options are a winch if you ever haul dead cars and a special place for a small floor jack that you can get to from outside the trailer - if you have to change a tire on the road, remember that you have to lift the trailer and your car or unload your car and a floor jack can make life much easier. Yes, I learned this the hard way. Trailering is one of the most dangerous things we do in the hobby and I am amazed when I see guys with half million dollar + cars and the cheapest trailer they can find pulled by the lightest duty truck. Good luck. If you need info for Triple B, I can get that for you. Dave
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Definitely Mr Anderson now that I know how cool you are, you can wear whatever you like to the meet, and you will defintely will have my respect - what a great job! I like your cars. I had to get the Aston Martin Vanquish since I met Ian Callum (who designed that and the DB7) a few years ago and I think that he is one of the best designers at work today. Now I may get to meet the designer of the toy too - what luck... Would you consider talking about what you do at the meet? We sometimes have people who do interesting stuff like this give informal sessions at the museum on meet weekends. One year we had the chief engineer for the Aston Martin V12 engine talk and answer questions. A lot of us guys who like classics like toys too. I think that there are some great classics that you should do - but maybe they wouldn't sell, I don't know. How do you decide what to make? I sometimes repaint "brand X" toys in more "classic" colors, like a Cad town car similar to my real one, but it is sold in pink, purple, bright green etc, with goofy wheels - I repaint them black. Yours are correct to begin with. I hope you will look me up at the museum. The 34 Cad town car won't be hard to find.
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For sale - 37 Packard windshield defroster deflector, new reproduction, $45 each + postage, will fit senior and junior models. I looked for years for one of these and have now reproduced them. Contact me at packard12s@hotmail.com Thanks, Dave Mitchell
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Mr Anderson, - Is that the Johnny Lightning that makes cool toy cars? Tell us more! I just bought the Johnny Lightning 007 Aston Martin Vanquish and Sunbeam Tiger. I love toys too... I hope you too will come and find me - I'll be the guy with the 34 Cad 16 town car, black with black leather top and black wall tires and biplane bumpers, probably with a V16 or Packard shirt on. If you have been there before, you have probably seen my 41 Packard Bohman & Schwartz limo - very formal with a special truck with fitted suitcases, and again, a very big car. I used to like little cars, I only wanted Porsches and MB SLs, and I still like them, but now I like the BIG classics best, especially ones with powerful engines.
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I look forward to meeting all you guys at the Museum in June - especially with our new building to show off. I'm really a Packard guy, I've gone off the deep end there and have way more than I should - but the 34 Cad is a very cool car in many ways - I think that the engine alone is one of the cleanest and best looking designs of the era. The craftsmen at Fleetwood also knew how to put together an awesome interior, and this car has some special features that are unusual, and not like my Packards. The car was very expensive when new - the top of the GM line and the options on it would more than pay for an everyday car. I just love to drive my cars (even the show car) and put lots of miles on whichever ones I have running in any given year, and often I drive a car from western Illinois to the museum, so if you see me, just ask, it doesn't take much to get me to go for a ride. Sharing is the most fun! The V16 is excessive not just in cylinders, but in size - the 154" wheelbase even outdoes the lwb Duesy by an inch, and my 37 lwb Packard 12 by 10"! Also I laugh when I hear new car press people complaining about a car that weighs in at almost 3000 lbs - the V16 nearly hits 7000, as does my Swedish bodied 36 Packard.
Bob, best of luck with your situation, and I wish you a swift and total recovery and we'll celebrate with a V16 ride - and you are welcome to come to Illinois when you feel up to it and we'll get out a bunch of cars and you can experience them all - usually I have about 10 cars up and running at any one time, Packard 6, 120, Super 8, 12, V8 (from 35 - 55), 38 Buick, the V16, MB, a 2 cylinder 600cc Lloyd (to provide contrast to the V16) and a 54 Stude Commander coupe - the last couple are my Dad's. My dad is just recovering from having a kidney removed due to cancer, the reason I missed the Annual Meet, so I know that you are not having any fun, hope you feel better soon. If you send my your email to packard12s@hotmail.com, I will send you pictures of some of my cars. Some collectors just like to look at their cars and never drive them, and that can be satisfying - sometimes (like when there is a foot of snow like now) I just sit in a car like my Bohman & Schwartz limo and feel the soft wool covering the individually bagged seat springs and the thick, oh-so-soft lambs wool carpet and look at the rich walnut and figured veneer trim and think what the world was like for the woman who rode in that car and what the craftsman thought as they built it, and all the places it went in it's life. It is like an imaginary time machine. But when the weather is nice, and ideally, when a friend stops by, I love to get out a big car and just go for a ride in the country. Sure I drive around town and to the store and run errands in them to, but just going for a scenic drive or a picnic is pretty awesome. This summer one of the best days was when a good friend came and several of us spent the whole day driving on the back roads in his 1930 duPont. We didn't go anywhere, we just drove around and enjoyed the car, nature and friends telling stories. We even ate at a restaurant where we sat on the veranda with the duPont parked on the street where we could enjoy looking at its stylish lines. That is a lot of what is fun about owning classic cars to me - and sharing it with friends it what the club and hobby is all about.
Let's go for that ride!
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Stutznutz - the feature cars are Duesenberg and Rolls Royce/Bentley, should be a great show.
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I have just reproduced the 37 Packard windshield defroster deflectors in aluminum. $45 each, contact Dave Mitchell at packard12s@hotmail.com These will fit the senior and junior models. I looked for a decent one of these for years and since I needed two, I cast a few extras. Thanks!
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Hi Bob,
I hope that you will come to the combined Grand Classic and Museum Concours at Hickory Corners, MI this June 6th and I will give you a ride in one of my classics. Last year I took three and I don't think I will try that foolishness again, but will try to bring my 34 Cad 16 since it has never been there and I don't have a Duesenberg or a Rolls Royce - the featured cars. We also usually get big cars out of the museum and sell rides or drives in them for a donation to the museum, which is a fun way to experience different classics. You'll see a lot of great cars which you can photograph and turn into some of your wonderful art too. Hope to see you there! Dave Mitchell
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If you have Mercedes expert Jan Melin's "The Supercharged Mercedes Benz 8 Vol 1" you will want his new book of the same title, "Volume 2". It is now being printed and will be for sale in December. It has over 700 photos, mostly period factory or "action" photos and technical or chassis photos of the 380K, 500K, 540K and 770 Grossers, both Sindelfingen and custom bodied cars, and of course the fabulous special roadsters and coupes. There is also a section devoted to the cars which have survived. Jan has been researching these automobiles for over 40 years and has incredible knowledge of the history of them and is painstakingly accurate. This high quality book is available in both standard and leather bound editions and I can help you place orders for it, as it has been published and printed in Sweden and will not be in stores here. If you are interested, please contact me at packard12s@hotmail.com. There are also a very limited number of copies of Volume 1 available at this time also.
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1941 Super 8 Bohman & Schwartz limousine, 100pts CCCA, 1st at Pebble, PAC best of show, ex Harrah, one off, the last complete body built by B & S, great history, expensive total restoration, fun car to own. I have too many cars! Also several 37 - 38 V12s needing restoration, limo, 5 & 7 pass sedans, conv sedan; many parts 32 - 47, junior, 8 and 12. Dave Mitchell, IL packard12s@hotmail.com
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1941 Super 8 Bohman & Schwartz one off limo, ex Harrah, 100pt, PAC best of show, 1st at Pebble, total restoration of a one off car, the last complete body built by Bohman & Schwartz with an excellent history; 1937 120CD sedan, very nice 27,000 mile original; 46 2106 fastback club sedan, very nice driver, 55 400, 55 Patrician, both low mile originals, 37 - 38 V12s in need of restoration, limo, 5 & 7 pass sedans, conv sedan, also lots of parts senior and junior, 32 - 47 6, 8, super 8 & 12. Dave Mitchell, IL packard12s@hotmail.com I have too many cars and want to find good homes for some!
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1941 Packard Bohman & Schwartz 7 pass limousine for sale, 100pts, PAC Best of Show, 1st at Pebble, complete restoration of a one off custom Super 8, great car with a terrific history, 1937 120CD 5 pass sedan, fabulous original with 27,000 miles, also several 37 - 38 V12s in need of restoration, limo, 5 & 7 pass, conv sedan, also many parts senior and junior, some NOS, 32 - 47. I have too mnay cars and parts, need to find good homes for them! Dave Mitchell, Illinois, packard12s@hotmail.com
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Wow! That is one awesome Duesenberg! Next year we are featuring Duesenberg at the Experience which will also be combined with a Grand Classic and we'd love to have you bring J446 out to see us. I am putting together special preliminary invitations for Duesenberg owners and if you and other Duesenberg owners send me your address at packard12s@hotmail.com, I will put you on the list. We are shooting for a world record gathering of Duesenbergs and have a good start on it already. It will be a great event, so I hope you will come. Dave Mitchell, GC coordinator and Experience committee member in charge of car selection.
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Thanks for the kind words about the Experience. We who have been going for many years have seen some fantastic shows there with really fabulous cars from all over the country. We have worked hard to make it a fun and relaxed event where you can enjoy the cars and the people and just have a great time. It can be hard to get people to come there the first time since it isn't in a major city and they don't much about it, but once they come, they always come back because they have such a good time. I had such a good time that I got on the team that puts it on. Next year's event will pit the best of the UK against the best of the US --- the features are Duesenberg, Rolls Royce and Bentley, with all classics invited also. It will be one of the greatest shows ever - so mark your calender now to be there next June 6th! And a big THANK YOU to all those who brought cars and came to this year's show. Thanks! Dave Mitchell
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Hi, I'm interested in the banjo wheel if it is for a big series 37. Can you send a photo to packard12s@hotmail.com? Thanks Dave
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I have seen a photo of Gable with a dark colered Jensen drophead. I think there was an article in Automobile Quarterly about Jensen that talked about Gable and other Hollywood people owning Jensens. I think Gable saw one while filming in England and ordered one which was delivered when he was back in California. Gable typically didn't keep cars very long and often modified them and changed things like interiors frequently. I'll see if I can find more for you. A friend of mine owns a Jensen dual cowl with a big Nash engine - nice car! Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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Just thought I would mention some more reasons to come to the concours - threeo noted restorers will conduct special seminars - Eric Lavine will teach us about using lead in body work, Steve Babinsky will talk about caring for original cars, and Bob Turnquist will talk about the lives of the custom body designers and coachbuilders. This should be a lot of fun and very educational for Packard and all classic car owners and enthusiasts. Welcome! There is still space on the field and more entries will be cheerfully accepted. Contact me at packard12s@hotmail.com Thanks!
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Perhaps I should be more specific - All Packards of all years and series are very, very welcome - from 1899 to 1958. All other classics are also welcome at the event. The group organizing the event is in fact the Classic Car Club of America Museum. The CCCA Museum is on the grounds of "The Gilmore" museum, but is a completely seperate organization with seperate boards of trustees. I serve on the board of trustees of the CCCA Museum, and the CCCA (club) national board of directors. We work closely with the Gilmore Museum and have a great partner there in Bill Parfet and his able crew. The two museums together present a fabulous collection and wonderful setting for a world-class concours. I hope that you will attend and support this terrific organization and have a really good time with a bunch of car folks. Thanks, Dave Mitchell
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There is still time to enter for the Grand Experience concours at the CCCA Museum May 30th - June 1st. We have room for more cars! The featured marque is Packard from 1899 - 1958, and as always, all classics are welcome. There are some terrific cars already registered, but we want more!!! This is a very nice show, in a relaxed and low key non commercial style and ideal location on the greenspace around the red barns that hold the collections of the CCCA and Gilmore musuems. We always have a lot of fun at this show. There are paved roads all over the grounds where you can drive your cars and not worry about traffic - riding in and driving different cars is one of the highlights of the weekend. We will have a seminar on working with lead in body work, care of original cars, and "Packard Bob" Turnquist will give a presentation on the lives of the great automotive designers and custom body builders that he was lucky enough to meet when he was just a young guy in the early days of the club. If you are interested in attending or bringing a car, please contact me - Dave Mitchell at packard12s@hotmail.com Katie Robbins is the meet co-chair, but with the death of her husband, she has more important things to worry about - we need to all pull together and put on a great show for her! She has done a lot for the club, even as her husband was ill, now let's make this a success for her. Please contact me and come out and enjoy a fabulous weekend with us. Thanks! Dave
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When it comes to production by body style, it seems that the Packard records have been lost, if they ever existed. I don't know of anywhere that such information has been published. However one dedicated Packard historian has made such research one of his life's projects and he has gotten quite a long way in determining this information. He has done so by keeping a record of the highest number on the data plates of cars for each body style. Over the course of many years he has gotten up to the 90 some percentile of all production in the 30s and 40s. It is helpful to report a high serial (data plate) production number to him. I don't have the info at my finger tips, but I will look it up or ask him. Unfortunately his wonderful wife passed away last week, so it is not the perfect time to contact him just now. Is there a particular body style that you are interested in, or all the 180s in general? His research can reveal some general trends - naturally more sedans were made than open cars, more 5 pass than 7 pass or club sedans. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com
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If it is rectangular, then the usual Packard accessory trunk should do the job. There are a couple of different trim levels on the same basic trunk which is 36 X 18 and about 21 high and leather or imitation leather covered. The difference is mostly in the decoration on the corners, some have leather reinforced corners, some small plated metal corners and some large and rather sytlized plated metal corners. Usually there are snaps around the bottom of the trunk so that a weatherproof cover typically of the same material as a convertible top could be attached. Fitted cases were also available. If you are interested, I will look in my collection of trunks and take some photos for you, and perhaps find one that will fit your needs. You can contact me directly at packard12s@hotmail.com Hope this helps. Dave
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For sale - 1946 Packard Super Custom Clipper club sedan 2 door fast back. Nice unrestored car, always well cared for, never rusty or crashed, some original paint, some original interior. Black with tan wool. Very nice and powerful driver with overdrive, radio, heaters. Great driver. Contact me at packard12s@hotmail.com. Also several 37 & 38 V12 sedans needing restoration for sale, along with a 37 120CD and 55 400 and Patrician.
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Hi, I don't know a lot about the 26s - what size trunk does it take? Is it one that fits up next to the body and conforms to the curves of the back of the car or just a plain rectangular trunk? Dave Mitchell
1937 Packard 120CD sedan for sale, low miles
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1937 Packard 120CD 5 pass sedan for sale, original car with 27,000 miles, runs and drives great, engine professionally rebuilt due to stuck rings from sitting so much, owned for many years by long time collector of low mileage original cars, puchased new by wealthy Chicago north shore family for their summer house in Wisconsin. This car has a fabulous original interior and dash with senior quality carpets and two types of tan wool (patterned seats, plain door panels and headliner) banjo wheel, chrome steering column, lighter, Goddess of Speed, senior taillights, special ashtrays, shutter grill, clock, super 8 door trim, etc. This is a very solid, terrific original car with mostly original black paint. Asking $24,000 Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com