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Local weather says it quits by 10:00am... hopefully cars don’t get too splashed up in order to make the showfield on time!
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If this was a dealer conversion though, it wouldn’t be “as it left the factory”. But it’s really cool!
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I saw a ‘66 Mercury Cyclone GT Indianapolis 500 Pace Car edition sold for $82,000... seems like great big money for one of those! (I own one). It had been light modified with a 5-Speed and air conditioner...did anyone see what made it so special to bring that big money?
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I think I’ve never seen a finer collection of cars than what I saw yesterday... and the event hosted by John Kuhns Jr. was a great match for them! From this participant’s perspective, it was an extraordinary well-done event. We had a blast... thank you!
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Thanks Steve! I appreciate the information because I really don’t want to be “that guy” plugging up Saturday’s lines because I don’t know what I’m doing!
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Do we need any paperwork before Saturday morning or can we pick up our packets when we drive onto the show field?
I was hoping to stop by the Greensburg Ramada Hotel on Thursday or Friday when I stashed my Pittsburgh car in a family member's Greensburg garage, but I may need to do that tonight given the combination of my open car trailer and the thunderstorms predicted for Thursday & Friday.
Thank you... looking forward to great collection of cars!
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That was easy! Good luck with your project!
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I did find an illustration in the shop manual showing rectangular caps as my battery has... hopefully that suffices as factory documentation!
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The messages here are clear... big walks past empty spot will hasten Hershey’s demise and that’s bad for all of us. I hope the organizers can and will find a way to keep the campers happy... elsewhere.
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I injured my foot on the Monday of Hershey week. I was attending as a spectator, but at the comparatively young age of 46 I found myself counting my steps. The "reasons" above might be accurate, but surely they cover a small minority of the empty acreage I witnessed on Friday this year. I felt bad for the lone vendors setup between empty spots... I probably wasn't trudging up the entire length of the row just to see their goods. Sadly, those making a real effort to sell are being impacted by the parkers and campers.
The car corral only appeared about 3/4 full on Friday. In past years, vacated spots seemed to be quickly recycled.
The world is changing, as is the hobby. Hershey needs some corrective measures to refocus the swap meet so the shoppers and vendors get a fair shake.
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The Greyhound on the show field was mesmerizing. The restoration was incredible and the enormity of the project reminded me of a custom RV conversation I saw parked at Spring Carlisle... the scale of these projects is dumbfounding!
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Bob,
I didn't get any deductions underhood for my Junior. I didn't get the sheet for my Senior.
I find the language pertaining to batteries in the Judges Guidebook to be a little vague. I think I'm within the criteria but hoped some folks with real work experience or credentials would chime in, especially at the Grand National level.
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Thank you 61polara!
I'll beef up my documentation on the hold down as it is correct, even down to the little metal bracket that connects the hold-down to the core support, but paper beats words!
I'll see what I can find on the bolts.
Hopefully somebody here can chime in on the battery caps as my research on 1) what's original and 2) what's acceptable has been inconclusive so far and I don't think "inconclusive" cuts it at the Grand National level!
Thanks again!
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I intend to enter my Senior 1978 Mercury Marquis in the 2018 Grand National show.
Would this battery trigger any deductions?
I couldn't capture the sides in my photos, but it's all black.
If this might not be acceptable, what is? I'm happy to support a Hershey vendor this weekend!
Thanks in advance,
Greg
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That's a dynamite event. We often drive over from Pittsburgh for it, but we're in the wrong time zone today.
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I can't wait!
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On 4/26/2017 at 11:55 PM, ted sweet said:
so what is allowed when the correct tire isn't reproduced?
The rulebook explains you just need to submit proof that the tires aren't available and then you can get a tire exception letter. I'd think the rulebook would take precedence over a magazine article. I took this at face value and found, with my car nearly complete and JR78-15's long gone, that getting JR78-15's was almost easier than getting an exception letter. Given the 5-point penalty per tire, you can consider your car essentially ineligible for a coveted Senior if you don't have a letter.
i feel the apathetic response to Mr. Marsh's well-intended efforts speaks to just how few club members care to spend a small fortune on "period appropriate" tires that look no different from a P-metric radial. There's great respect for honorable rules but the punitive policies chase enthusiasts away.
We may hear of the great differences, but if members cared they'd be signing up for these Gerald Ford era tires and instead I'm just hearing crickets.
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Rons49, it was suggested to me that I show my rotisserie restored 1978 Marquis in DPC as well purely because of the tire issue. While I haven't seen your Concord, it sounds incredible and I hope you take no offense at that suggestion. While our club claims an interest in attracting younger members, the cars we grew up with face very real (club-imposed) barriers that diminish our ability to participate at the top level... but this discussion forum is no place to discuss such things.
Given the apparent apathy toward's Mr.Marsh's well-intended efforts, my hunch is class 27M will continue to see few Senior cars... reinforcing the perception that cars of this era have little collector value. I'm sure we'll still see Aspens and Spirits and such, but with the tire barriers these cars face in our club they'll surely go elsewhere instead.
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Jim Jones, I completely agree with you.
I am all for cars appearing authentic, that's why I joined the AACA. The organization appears willing to accept replacement parts for most wear items that are sympathetic to the car's original equipment. Thus, a set of bright yellow Accel ignition wires is frowned upon, bit a subtle set of black wires from the corner parts store is fine.
In restoring my dad's 1978 Mercury Marquis I hit the alphanumeric road block. I was able to get a tire exception letter (kidneys are easier to source) and I'm delighted my car earned a Senior at Hershey this fall. It did so sitting on a set of British tires that were manufactured for Bentleys and Rolls Royces. They cost a small fortune. My boys are 13, 11, and 7. I probably should have put that small fortune into their college funds as the only value in these tires is winning the prize. They are no more authentic than any P-series tire I might have found.
But I'm afraid either you and I are in the minority or we're part of a very silent majority. Younger people are interested in cars but justifying the costs of tires or absorbing the punitive point deduction is a real turn off.
I'm 46 and I don't think their were 5 people younger than me with cars entered at the Auburn Spring Meet last year. We can pretend making it virtually impossible to get a 70's car to the Senior level isn't a turn off to the people who grew up loving those machines, and a few principled folks might be right, but those principles are a disservice to the future of my favorite car club.
Mr. Marsh, I sincerely applaud your effort to build a critical mass of buyers. I'm happy to see the club offer a pathway forward. I fear given the numerous variations on tire sizes and styles and the limited years they were used, these tires will always be prohibitively expensive. Sadly, they'll become safety hazards from age in 7 years or so and will require expensive replacements... all this just so a Judge on his knee doesn't see the letter P.
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Getting to speak with Mr. Oakes last year was a real gift. He really worked for the betterment of the AACA and carefully weighed all sides before making a decision. I gained great respect for him very quickly. Godspeed.
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I don't see anything wrong with it.
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I believe most drum braking systems are out of adjustment and thus the old systems get an unfair reputation as being inferior.
I also believe a drum braking system that's working as it was designed, say in 1966, would work great if we could drive it in 1966 traffic.
But I drive in 2016 traffic and I have zero regrets converting my '66 Mercury Cyclone to power discs with a double-bowl master cylinder. The car does stop better, straighter, and surer. Disc brakes self-adjust much more effectively than drums, so the risk of locking a single-wheel on a mal-adjusted system is higher with drums due to the deficiency inherent to their design.
In 1966 when cars got lubed every 3,000 miles and tuned every 12,000, I think brakes were regularly checked. We're just not geared for that anymore so systems wander out of adjustment.
Drums can stop just as well as discs the first time, and discs can fade, but its silly to imply drums have the fade resistance offered by discs.
I like to drive my cars and top-shelf brakes our true priority to enjoying the open road. There's little aesthetic penalty and substantial improvement for drivability and safety. It's your car... do what suits you best!
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Fix the tranny leak and it's an easy $8500.
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On August 15, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Marty Roth said:
Here is a link to the auctioneer's site advertising the auction. http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=2736274
and here is a link to the results with sale prices: https://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=115133
Would you have the results from Day 2 as well? I can't seem to find them anywhere. Thanks in advance!
FOR SALE: 1967 Lincoln Continental 4-Door Convertible
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That “460” is actually a 462 per the Marti report. I think ‘68 was the first year for the 460.
Either way, neat car!