CatBird

Here is a 1958 Cadillac that started life as a Sixty-Special, note the lower rear trim, Fleetwood, Factory air. It was converted into a flower car in the late 1950s or early 1960s it was extended three feet to have an eight-foot bed. It was used as a flower car only as there is no fold-down tailgate. Notice the picture comparing it to an original Sixty-Special. See the difference where the rear side spear is further back? The extension was there. In the mid-90s, it was repainted into a parade car. As a caveat, I would never disturb and original car into anything like this. I bought it for a parts car because I have four other 1958 Cadillacs. But when it arrived on a transporter, I decided to keep it intact. It has a certain panache in person. Other than the paint and bodywork, it is stock. I did add a custom steering wheel.

Original post was never a flower car. Looks like a home-made P-Cup. I guess it could transport flowers. Here is our 1958 Cadillac Flower Car made by Eureka, Senior Car one of four made.

Thanks for your great info. You did a lot of work posting all these pictures. What is the length of your trailer? Axle weight? Clearance inside height? Gooseneck or bumper pull? Two things I would be different for my gooseneck Featherlite. Height clearance inside is 73". I can't haul my Model T Depot hack is 85" tall. I like your large side door. Nice to haul an ATV. I like the large side door in the front. Also, like your ideas of tieing down crossing the strap. My rack does also minimize side-to-side movements

Yes, leave a window down and reach through.

Mine was from Harbor Freight 48"x24" I have never used a battery charger on my trailer and there is some heavy current draw with electric landing gear and winching. My interior lights are LED bulbs. It always works.

I am also upgrading my trailer tires to Sailun 14ply as recommended by edinmass.

Found a 1997 Featherlite 36 foot gooseneck on Craigslist. 28 foot floor, plenty of room. Rubber torsion 7k axles. With a 4,000 pound trailer, I can carry better than 10k payload with my Diesel Dually. I use a 3500 Harbor Freight winch with a wireless remote control. I can pull in a 6600 pound 1958 Cadillac Limo. Plenty of pull! I also bought a 4x2 foot solar panel mounted on the trailer roof that keeps the trailer battery charged. I took an industrial rack about 20 feet long. Four 4 1/2inch Cap bolts that just stick through the trailer floor. I used four bolts. The track lays in place and stays put. I can easily lift the track off and haul it out of the trailer as needed. I began with 2x4s and these fit the 1950s Cadillacs, but our 1916 Pierce Arrow has a more narrow track so I have gone to 1" boards and work perfectly! I can use this width for all our cars from 1916 to 1960. There is no need to get in or out of the car. I have perfect 2" clearance from inner fenders even with a wide body 1950s Cadillacs. If they will fit, about anything will fit! No need for any escape door no need to have a driver at all. My wife can load and unload cars.

Jack, very well done! Double 3/4 plywood solid frames. I can do this. You have no center of gravity? Looks like a really great setup, especially your quad.

Want to buy good around 1930 Touring car. I like the squared-off long car look. I like top-down cars. A good driver in very good condition. Reliable. Does not to be concourse quality but in better than average with excellent running gear. Would like to do touring a few hundred miles and it gets me home! I like the high-end cars, Packard, Auburn, Cadillac, Rolls. Have a look at my current cars in my signature. I like the 1931 Pierce Arrow convertible sedan this seems to fit my needs or something like it. I like the classic cars and not-so-much after 1935. Would look at a good sedan in limo style. 5 to 7 passenger. No coupes or roadsters. Want to bring friends along! Budget on a car, depending on quality, could go as much as $200,000, less would be better! Best and fastest way is to send me a private message. I am in Atlanta GA

This still the deckover design seems like a good idea. My 1950s cars are just about a 1/2" clearance of the bodywork on an 83 inch trailer inside fender opening. I am quite worried that a side-to-side movement while driving could damage the car. The question asks that the slightly higher Center of Gravity (COG) of a deckover trailer would affect it the possibility overturning a loaded deckover would be a greater danger than between the fenders type trailer. Many commercial car carriers use deckover trailers and roll-off wreckers. I suggest you should always know and stay within your driving limits. I suspect the between the between-the-fender trailers are for easier loading and pulled by lighter vehicles pulling lighter cars and built for non-commercial purposes. But the deckover type tilt trailers being pulled by 3500 diesel dually trucks should be fine. A bumper pull https://www.ebay.com/i/173110381944?chn=ps Or a gooseneck might be better. These seem most popular with large classic guys. An enclosed trailer body over the deckover should be good enough. Could be aluminum or canvas sides. The question with a deckover tilt trailer is one of the angles of the car being able to get on a tilt/deckover dragging the rear bumper of the car. Extension ramps should work well enough. These ramps could store underneath the deck. Though I have been advised against deckover trailers. but it seems the engineering is sound.

I did get the last copy for $20, is this the correct book? https://www.amazon.com/50-years-Lincoln-Mercury-George-Dammann/dp/B0006C5H7I?tag=donations09-20

Would you consider a 1925 series 33 as a classic?

What from the factory body besides the flat windshield was made by Willoughby? Is there an article or link to Willoughby specs? I have found an interesting site http://willoughbycoach.com/index.html

I really like the tapestry and brocade posted by M_Mman. The Clark 1927 Phantom 1 for Woolworth, found an article by West Peterson about the car. A fascinating read. I had a feeling the interior had a feeling of Louis XVI https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2007/02/07/1927-rolls-royce-new-phantom-brougham-de-ville

Why do some 1937 Model K Lincolns have a split windshield? Others, like ours, has one sheet of glass. The same year Doepke has a split? Is it a limo or town car flat windshield? Billy Bathgate (movie) Doepke The Cheap Detective 1978 Our 1937 Willoughby Limo

Thank you so very MUCH! Love finding sibling cars!

I love both open cars and sedans, especially the one above. Here are some closeups with our 1937 Lincoln Willoughby> I really like the tapestry and brocade above.

Just checked with JC Taylor and they were slightly over my bill at Hagerty. Closer looking at my Hagerty policy, I AM getting a multi-car discount and premium services. Will check with Grundy tomorrow. It makes sense that the premium carriers are about the same.

Grimy, they stick very well with magnets and straps. I plan to strap them to my spare tire since my Pierce is aluminum, but for now here are some stuck to my van. Even though the magnets are quite powerful, I will still use the velcro straps. IMG_5053 (1).MOV IMG_5054.MOV

Checking with JC Taylor and Grundy, asking for a "Fleet Rate". Will let you know. I went through the song and dance with online Grundy and they cut me off with nine cars and told me to call "Customer Service." I mentioned that if any of you are looking there, don't waste 45 minutes online showing pictures, year, model, where do you keep them? Just go to customer service. I also listened to the caveat with State Farm not paying off and agreed value. Not cool!

It appears that magnet dangers approach being a problem are when neodymium magnets are worn on the person like spherical magnets making a necklace. When removed from the person, problems cease. Seems no permanent damage. But I appreciate your warning. I don't have a Pacemaker.

Hagerty also will cover you in a recent buy for 90 days before putting it on a policy.

Will check Grundy also.

Hagerty is the Gold Standard. Most of my friends are with them. Percentage-wise they are ensuring mobile assets at about .5% of the total value. Also at stated value. Also, I think there is just one liability policy that covers everything. So, really pretty good. Had a tree limb and damage a car, and they paid easily. I also have the VIP premium coverage, towing and incidentals. I got chapped by my insurance agency since they tripled my premium on a totally different policy and I started looking at everything. I also use ACE/CHUBB. These are excellent. They insure our fine art at about $1,000/$M. Hagerty is about $4,000/$M. But cars must be higher loss category. Our cars are in a steel and masonry structure. No wood. Nothing flammable but gasoline! <grin> But, I will have a look at JC Taylor. Have heard some good things from them.

I was being facetious, playing a cantankerous curmudgeon. <grin>