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About kookie1

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    1937 Pontiac Deluxe 6 Touring Sedan

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  1. Thanks for the pix, PP. You've shown us these before in a previous post but this time with measurements. That definitely helps! I'm wondering if the strap across the front, which I assume is to pull it out of the timing hole, is made of the same foam rubber or is it made of something else? It's hard to tell from the pix. I'm also wondering if one could fabricate a copy with a 3D printer using a denser plastic that can be printed, which requires some serious heating of the plastic to liquefy it, and end up with a hole cover that can handle the under-the-hood heat buildup? Guess I'd have to know more about 3D printers and certain plastic's properties. Anyway, just a thought. I'm amazed your timing hole cover looks that good with almost no deterioration after all these years. Paul
  2. Nice sleuth work on the rubber timing hole cover John. I've looked into it in the past and found that Steele Rubber doesn't make a reproduction of the rubber cover. I was figuring they for sure would have one on their rubber item list since that's their specialty but I guess not. I also looked into California Pontiac Restoration and Kanter Auto Parts out east but they don't have it either. I was hoping someone made a reproduction of it but I guess I'll still be looking. I imagine few timing hole covers survived due to years of under the hood heat that dries out the rubber and makes it stiff and brittle. Which is probably why they simply shrink a bit and fall out of the hole over time. I'll keep looking though anyway. Thanks for the research. Maybe someone will chime in with more insight!! Paul
  3. Hi John, No, I don't get Smoke Signals magazine. I'll pm you for the address. Thanks!! Paul
  4. No questions John!! I wasn't expecting that much detail, I'm not complaining mind you, just appreciative you took the time to do all that sketching and explaining. Thanks a bunch for all the effort. With all that info I should be able to precisely duplicate your battery tray. By reading your explanation it's obvious you're a DIY person at heart. Being an old industrial arts instructor it's obvious to me you've built thing before and know the intricacies of preforming radius bends, etc. Good eye also on why the notches in the side sections are there. I think you're correct in that observation and it can be seen in your last battery tray photo to allow clearance. A quick few measurements during construction of the tray, I'm sure, will answer that question. Thanks again for the excellent explanation! If you have any future questions concerning your '37 just let me know. Paul over'n out
  5. John, I hear ya. I'm doing the same thing that is to put the '37 back on the road, as close to original as I can get, as a runner, not a show car. Some pix here are the original pix I took before cleaning things up before restoration. I replaced my original steel brake line with a copper/nickel line since it can be bent with your hands without tools and was a whole lot easier to bend to the original curves. I took out the steel lines and just matched the curves on the workbench before installation. Worked quite well. I've added text to some of the pix but I'm sure you can figure it out without the text. If I can help I'll answer any questions you have. If you need any pix in the future I'll be happy to pass on anything I've done in the way of maintaining original specs. and what things look like before or after cleaning. I usually take pix of things before and after so I can remember how they go back together. Just a quick question here, did your '37 have an original cover for the timing mark access hole? If you can take some measurements of the battery tray I'd appreciate it. I only need these three in the last pix. Paul
  6. Hi John, I've got pix at home, I'm at public library right now, of my '37 6-cyl. 4-door touring sedan if that will do. I'll look them up tonight. I'm pretty sure you're correct about the lines travel but I'll double check tonight and add some pix tomorrow. Paul
  7. Super!!! John, seeing the underneath now really answers all my previous questions. I can see the slots and the support hangers, or whatever you call them, which give the box extra support for the weight of a battery. Thanks a bunch for the extra underneath shots. Those really helped! I think I can now reproduce what the original box looked like. Paul PS. I hope Yellowstone got the same snow Colorado recently got. We always have had plenty of snow there for downhill playing. Good luck doing some serious cross country!! Have a great time and thanks again!
  8. Sorry, John, I'm a little slow at responding but I've been skiing in Colorado and just got back. Thanks for taking the time and effort to take these pix!! I'm just a little confused trying to examine the pix. Are the two bent support rods over the edge on both sides going into any slots or are they just welded in place and hang over the top to hold the battery box up? Or maybe they're clips of some sort? I can't seem to make out how they work in the pix. Actually it looks like the front of the battery box is welded to the frame? My '37 4-door touring sedan doesn't have a bar going across the rods to hold/clamp the battery in place. Maybe they changed the battery box configuration between the 2-door and 4-door touring sedans? Does the bar holding up the rear side of the battery box have 2 slots in it? My front and rear support bars have 2 elongated slots in them and I was wondering if they were used in some way to hold up the battery box. Paul
  9. HI M., Well, that person did a great job at taking a pix for you. Your floor plate is pretty clean. My cover plate was over-coated on top anyway, with something they sprayed over the entire floor as a rust preventative coating and it appears original whatever it is. Thanks for getting at least those pix. As I said earlier I want to reproduce an original looking battery box the battery sits in. Is your battery box the original '37 box or do you think it was replaced sometime ago? I'd like to see it someday if that's possible. I understand it's in storage but if you could get a hold of a pix or two someday I'd appreciate it!
  10. Thanks M. but I have the battery's floor plate and it looks exactly like yours. I'm really interested in getting a look at the original '37 battery box the battery sits in.
  11. Thanks Gary, I did have a look a while ago, in my initial search, at Gary W.'s battery tray. His has bolt holes in the tray supports. Mine have two, 2 inch slots on both sides of the supports. Others have said Pontiac used these slots, at least on one side anyway, to hold short arms that stick through the slots of the battery tray. The other two slots on the other side may have been used for bolts. At least that would make sense since there is no reason for the slots because there's no reason to move the tray left or right between the supports. Anyway, I'll keep looking for an original '37 Pontiac 6 battery tray pix.
  12. HI M., No, haven't seen a pix of the tray yet. Can't really blame anyone for not wanting to remove their battery just to take a pix of the tray for someone else. I was hoping someone in the middle of a restoration would have taken a pix of their tray just to record it for a before and after record. I do it all the time. Makes it a lot easier later on to remember how everything goes back together. I check here regularly but nothing yet. Haven't given up hope yet!! Ha!
  13. Does anyone have a picture of their battery tray, old or restored? I want to fabricate a copy of the originally designed battery tray. Thanks, in advance, for your time and effort!! I've searched the web for '37 battery tray pix to no avail. I guess being the battery rests under the floor few people would show that view.
  14. There is a shift lever spring on Ebay right now. It's very similar to, I think, as the one for my '37 Pontiac 6, at least the end of the shift lever looks identical to mine. You may have to open up the end cap to a round hole but that wouldn't be too hard to do. You could always ask the seller for the springs i.d. and length to be sure it would work. Just a thought. https://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-1935-1936-Pontiac-Shift-Lever-Spring-Cup-NOS-Part-553573/142956993477?hash=item2148e69bc5:g:-skAAOSw6oBXFFJ9:sc:USPSFirstClass!55122!US!-1:rk:12:pf:0&vxp=mtr
  15. Thanks, Bloo! After what you said I took another look at the supporting frame of the battery box under the bent over top flaps and it does, like you said, have two slots. I hadn't noticed that before. There are two slots on both front and rear sides of the supporting frame. There are no places on the supporting frames that show any previous rivet locations or would indicate previous rivets by means of holes. I really wish someone would photograph their original '37 battery box so I could duplicate it. Guess I can always hope! Thanks again for responding!