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I have a 1942 Ford 6-cylinder flathead engine that my brother would like to sell. But we have no idea of its value. (Admin – please delete if not allowed).
In the mid 80's (yep, 35 years go) my brother owned a '47 Ford pickup that he planned on restoring. He removed this engine from the truck, and had it rebuilt. I have receipts dated 1985. He ended up selling the truck itself, without ever having installed or ran the engine, but held onto the engine all these years. He will soon be moving into a different house, and decided that the time has come to let go of the engine. He worked with the experienced Ford engine builder who assembled the engine, and told me that the engine was liberally lubricated when it was put back together. I stopped by my brother's place tonight, and we were able to turn it over with a socket and straight arm; it was not "stuck" whatsoever.
Info from the block:
Ferro 2GA6015
From the web:
"The G casting: This is the original inline six cylinder and was used before WW2. It is cast by Ferro foundry and will have a stylized raised Ferro mark located on the oil pan rail next to the oil breather pipe. The casting mark will have a G as part of its code, for instance, 2GA 6015."
"That is a 1942 engine...90 hp, 226 cubic inch, bore 3.3", stroke 4.4". The 2GA engine was produced and used in 1942 models only."
So.... can anyone use this engine? Can anyone give us an idea of its value? Thanks!
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4 hours ago, hwellens said:
Looks like it has hydraulic brakes? If so, surprised they were available in 1928 on Dodge 4 cylinder
Actually, those are cables, not tubing - the brakes are mechanical.
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I have parts for a 1928 Dodge Brothers "Fast Four" coupe, frame number A1002-130. It has 19" wheels and 4-wheel brakes, which I believe makes it a model 129. The parts are original, never messed with to the best of my knowledge. The leaf springs are still wrapped in what appears to be oily leather. All brake cables are in place and seem to be in good working condition. All wheels spin.
- Complete front suspension including 19" spoke wheels with beater tires holding air.
- Complete rear suspension & differential including 19" spoke wheels with beater tires holding air.
- Complete steering assembly: wheel, column, box.
I have no idea of the value of these items, so am taking offers.
I'm located in Bloomer (west-central) Wisconsin.
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I have complete front and rear suspension assemblies (including differential, tie rod, brake hardware, wheels, tires, etc.) that I removed from my 1928 Dodge Brothers Model 129 (4-wheel brakes, 19-inch wheels). I am offering them for sale, but have no idea of what they're worth. If they're something you can use, please shoot me an offer. Thanks!
I CAN BE REACHED AT danritz@pair.com
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The steering gear...
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I have a 1928 Dodge Brothers "Fast Four" coupe chassis, frame number A1002-130; 108" wheelbase. It has 19" wheels and four wheel brakes, which I believe makes it a model 128. All brake steering and brake hardware/linkages are intact. I have plans for the bare frame and gas tank, don't need anything else. Before I begin disassembly, I though I'd check here and see if anyone has use for the complete chassis as it sits here, and would like to trade me a bare frame and a few dollars for it. Thanks!
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The complete steering column/wheel/box is available as well...
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36 minutes ago, Big Beat said:
Doesn't the world have enough of those cut-up hot rods that all have the same look as a million other customized "Deuce Coupes"? If the condition is beyond saving, then OK, sure, but I think this car looks too nice to hot-rod. I understand that this car may not be valuable enough to be worthy of a proper restoration to most people. But if this was my project, and restoration wasn't in the cards, I'd at least keep the body totally stock and make only mechanical upgrades, and make sure that these upgrades are not obviously visible. I would preserve at least the overall appearance of a real 1920s car, if I couldn't preserve its character. Of course, it's a moot point, as I'm not in the market for this kind of project. I hope someone buys it and saves it.
I can understand why some (many?) folks would like to see the car restored to stock. That's why I thought I'd give those people an opportunity to purchase the car before I proceed with my project - a MILD FULL-DENDERED rod (NO CHOPPED TOP) with a near-stock Chrysler hemi, boxed frame, independent front suspension, etc. While "the world" may have enough hot rods of this type, I don't have one... yet. But I have an all-steel coupe and a running V8...
If anyone would like to step up to "save" the car, feel free to make me an offer. I have offered the car for sale on the Dodge Brothers webpage; surprise, no takers.
I had considered restoring it, but that's not the type of project that I enjoy. Additionally, all I have is a body shell with no engine, trans, brake/clutch pedals, or any of the other gazillion bits that it would take to get this rig on the road. The car was originally a 4-cylinder five main bearing "Fast 4" which are now near unobtanium, and, when found, cost around $5k to purchase and rebuild. After all the grief and expense to restore to stock, I'd have a rough riding, poor handling, underpowered car with poor manual brakes that would safely top out at only 50 MPH. No thanks-
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On 10/28/2019 at 9:46 PM, nearchoclatetown said:
Now that I look at the picture better it isn't a fast four. It's a 1928 Standard.
Nope, it's a Fast 4, Model 128. Frame no. A1002-130, built in Nov-Dec 1927. -
This is the look that I'll be going for - no hood sides, show off the engine.
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Open to offers if someone wants to step up and restore it to a Fast Four... If not, chassis, suspension, brakes and drivetrain will be upgraded so we can cruise, cruise, cruise.
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My plans do include a sideless hood so the hemi is allowed to be seen...
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15 minutes ago, JACK M said:
I think that this would make a pretty cool hot rod but also agree that it may be worth restoring.
Problems these days are that there aren't a lot of guys doing full stock restorations. So there is a very limited market.
You may find that someone might buy it to hoard it away, but to me that's kind of a waste as well.
You will get some flack here if you go the hot rod route, but only from some.
Be aware that its not just bolting up the Hemi and make a driveline.
You will have to do some major chassis mods to make it all come together.
Here's mine. It was already beyond any possible stock restoration.
Yep, I agree, I can understand why some (many?) folks would like to see the car restored to stock. That's why I thought I'd give those people an opportunity to purchase the car before I proceed with my project - a mild full fendered rod (no chopped top) with a Chrysler hemi, boxed frame, independent front suspension, etc.
I had considered restoring it, but that's not the type of project that I enjoy. Additionally, all I have is a body shell with no engine, trans, brake/clutch pedals, etc. I believe that the car was originally a 4-cylinder (five main bearing "Fast 4") which are now unobtanium, and, when found, cost around $5k to rebuild. After all the grief and expense to restore to stock, I'd have a rough riding, poor handling, underpowered car with poor manual brakes that would safely top out at only 50 MPH. No thanks.Thanks for your input, much appreciated. Nice ride you have!
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24 minutes ago, nearchoclatetown said:
Now that I look at the picture better it isn't a fast four. It's a 1928 Standard.
Yikes, thanks, I was told that it was a Fast 4. How can I tell the difference? Thanks!
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26 minutes ago, trini said:
Does it have a diff and drive shaft ? Where are you located ?
It does not have a drivetrain - no engine, trans, or drive shaft.
I'm sorry for the confusion, I'll update the post...I'm located outside of Bloomer, WI (54724)
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6 minutes ago, nearchoclatetown said:
You may want to explain that a fast four is a Dodge Brothers car.
Oops, thank you!
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I've posted here before with questions about my '28 Dodge Brothers "Fast 4" coupe (** NO ENGINE, TRANS, OR DRIVE SHAFT **) , but I feel that I'm now at a crossroads and could use some guidance. A number of years ago I picked up what I believe to be a 1928 Fast 4 3-window coupe. About the same time I landed a 1953 Chrysler hemi. Yep, you can see where my head was at the time - I planned on not completely hacking up the coupe, but building a mild driver. I recently built an engine test stand, mounted the hemi, and found that it runs great; I was furnished with no history of the engine when I purchased it, but it sure seems to run well, with no nasty smoking, etc. Last weekend I moved the coupe from "cold storage" into my heated workshop, and am about to begin disassembly. The thing is, I'm feeling twangs of guilt about modifying the coupe with a modern V8 and juice brakes, but, as much as I like cars of the 20's, I have absolutely no interest in redoing one.
So... if someone was interested in purchasing the coupe with intentions of restoring it as a Fast 4, I'd have no issue selling it and moving on to a different project with the hemi. It would, of course, be pointless to sell it to someone else with rodding intentions. At this point, I'd appreciate any feedback: is there much demand out there for a vehicle like this, ball park value, recommended selling method (not eBay), etc.
Note: the trunk area had been cut out; I have a complete replacement rear section with deck lid (from CA) on hand. The interior is original (but shot). There is no engine or transmission.
Thanks in advance for any help...
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Yowzer, determining the model number - 128 versus 129 - it's much more involved than I thought. Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback, much appreciated!
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Sounds right. I used to have a late '27 3-window coupe that I believed to be a 124, and the engine mounting was totally different than on this '28. Of course the sheet metal was as well; the '27 had the old style domed fenders.
If I recall correctly, without checking out in the shed, my '28 has 4-wheel brakes, which I believe would make it a model 129 rather than a 128. Except for the 2-wheel (128) versus 4-wheel (129) brakes, I think that the two models were virtually identical.
Thanks for the update...
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Yeah... you're a patient man! If I were to find all the parts that I needed and completed the car in 22 years, I'd be 90 years old, and at that stage probably couldn't remember why I even wanted it!
Nice ride you have there!
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I'm not sure, but weren't the engine, bellhousing (?), transmission, pedal assemblies (clutch and brake), etc. all tied together as one large drop-in unit? If so I'd need all the non-engine stuff, plus drive shaft (no biggy on that I suspect). My concern is that this could lead to a multi-year search just for missing parts; I gotta think some could be pretty tough to find. I don't mean to be a negative Nelly here, and don't expect to step into a deal with a ready-to-drop-in engine/trans/pedal assembly, just trying to be realistic about what I'd be biting off.
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Hmm... as I mentioned, I have no engine or transmission (also missing drive shaft). It appears that your engine may be missing parts. From where I am now, and what you have, would you be able to tell me what additional goodies I'd need to get on the road? Thank you!
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Sorry, I should have included my location: west-central Wisconsin, just north of Eau Claire.
I included photos of the coupe; what's with no pics of the ex-wife?
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I've posted here before with questions about my '28 coupe, but I feel that I'm now at a crossroads and could use some guidance. A number of years ago I picked up what I believe to be a 1928 Fast 4 3-window coupe. About the same time I landed a 1953 Chrysler hemi. Yep, you can see where my head was at the time - I planned on not completely hacking up the coupe, but building a mild driver. I recently built an engine test stand, mounted the hemi, and found that it runs great; I was furnished with no history of the engine when I purchased it, but it sure seems to run well, with no nasty smoking, etc. Come spring, the coupe comes out of storage, and a project of some sort will commence. The thing is, I'm feeling twangs of guilt about modifying the coupe with a modern V8 and juice brakes, but, as much as I like cars of the 20's, I have absolutely no interest in redoing one.
So... if someone was interested in purchasing the coupe with intentions of restoring it as a Fast 4, I'd have no issue selling it and moving on to a different project with the hemi. It would, of course, be pointless to sell it to someone else with rodding intentions. At this point, I'd appreciate any feedback: is there much demand out there for a vehicle like this, ball park value, recommended selling method (not eBay), etc.
Note: the trunk area had been cut out; I have a complete replacement rear section with deck lid (from CA) on hand. The interior is original (but shot). There is no engine or transmission.
Thanks in advance for any help...
Dan
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1942 Ford Flathead 6 Engine
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