Justin Kerns
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Brad,
Just want to clarify that Chris Summers is the ACD Club Historian for Duesenberg only. There are others who are historians for Auburn and Cord respectively.
I certainly agree however that he is an all around great guy! But there are others in the Club and on the ACD forum that have far greater knowledge than Chris or myself do about this particular car.
Thanks,
Justin
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Hello,
Respectfully speaking there is a wealth of info on the ACD forum and I'm sure you'll get some feedback from your post.
Based on what I can see from your photos I would wager this was a 1933 8-105 or 8-105A car in Salon trim. It was definitely an 8 cylinder as the hood has 26 louvers and 12 cylinder hoods have 31 louvers. And it is definitely a Salon as it sports the split windshield. The only year this car was made was 1933 as in 1932 there was no split windshield available and in 1934 the 8 cylinder cars had a completely new design.
1933 and 1934 Auburn Salon cars are rare to be sure, but there are several examples of 8-105 and 8-105A cars running around out there. Incidentally they were available with dual sidemounts so the presence of such doesn't indicate anything about 8 cylinder vs 12 cylinder.
Personally I love the 33 and 34 Salon cars - they are my favorites! I hope you can find more of this car or, in the case that you can't, I hope you will make these parts available to an Auburn person who is in need of them. It would be amazing to get another of these back on the road. If I was closer to you I would love to come take a look at them myself!
Justin
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Never have trouble but I can help you out. Send me an email at jkerns25 @ gmail.com (take out the spaces) and I'll get you up and running. I really want you to spend some time there before deciding anything drastic (such as a RWD conversion - :eek:)
Thanks,
Justin
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Nice - a very salvageable car! Yes the motor is original. It sounds like the shifter has been modified at some point. I suggest contacting some experts for advice before deciding what direction to move in. Post up those pix on the ACD forum in the Cord 810/812 forum and you'll get lots of response. The more pix the better! If you need help posting them I can do it for you. Feel free to contact me via email at jkerns25 @ gmail.com - take out the spaces.
Congrats!
Justin
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And the journey has begun. Of course photos would be well received!
Justin
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Wow I really like that 35 sedan. I'd drive it as is!
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I'm looking for an Auburn Salon Sedan so if you see one, or even a body that has been removed, let me know. I think it's a bit of a shame that so many good closed cars have been cut up and converted, but understand why it has been done. As they say 38 Auburn speedsters were built and I've seen all 200 of them.
If you really think you want to build one why not chat with this gentleman:
AUBURN CORD DUESENBERG CLUB :: View topic - Two 1931 Auburn 898As for Sale - Speedster & Four Door
The price has been reduced to $35k for both cars.
Justin
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This is an amazing resource - it puts decades of hard copy content at your fingertips in searchable pdf form. I use mine weekly.
The difference in member and non-member price is about the cost of a membership in the ACD Club. So for those of you who want to buy this DVD and are not club members, why not join to get the discounted price and enjoy all of the other club member benefits?
Click here to join online today - Join
Justin
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Assuming you're using modern paint look at 1988 BMW Lapis Blue at NAPA (Sherwin Williams-Martin Senour). They will have color samples.
If you need a Dupont urethane mix I can get that for you.
Justin
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Yes they are fabulous and also hard to find. Any leads on a car or even a Salon sedan body would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
Justin
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I am also partial the the Westchester. 37 has a couple of nice upgrades over 36 including Bendix brakes. Does it have the door on the cowl for oil & water fill? That was a late addition to the design and would indicate one of the late cars built.
There are numerous sources for parts. I suggest combing the newsletter and also posting wanted ads on the ACD Forum.
Justin
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Congrats! Is it supercharged or not? 810 or 812? Where are you located?
Replacement heads are readily available, so don't worry too much about that.
Justin
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Excellent acquisition. Josh is one of the highest respected experts on the marque. If you really get into Cord I strongly recommend his latest book Cord Complete. It is *the* reference on Cord. If you order directly from his publisher you will get a personally signed copy: Cord Complete
I also highly recommend joining the ACD Club. It is a great club that has an absolute wealth of information and friendly and knowledgeable people. Incidentally Josh Malks is the editor of the excellent club newsletter. There is also a searchable DVD available that contains all newletters from 1953-2009. It makes it very easy to find the multitude of technical articles that have been written over time. The club also has an excellent and active online forum. I really can't recommend the club enough - you can join online here: Join
Finally to end my pitch for today I also strongly recommend becoming a member of the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum. In my opinion it is one of the very best automotive museums in the world and is dedicated to these marques. It resides in the former headquarters building in Auburn, IN. In addition to using the actual headquarters as the actual museum there is an extensive archive of historical documentation related to these cars. The building, cars and archive are truly treasures! You can join the museum here: Museum Memberships
Sorry if I overdid it there! I love these marques and have been involved in these organizations for more than a decade. They are amazing cars and, even more importantly, there are so many great people dedicated to preserving them and their associated history. Welcome!
Justin
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I have never owned one (yet) but have been a big fan for over 20 years. I have driven and ridden in several and find them to be very nice riding and fun to drive, if things are working properly. There is a wealth of knowledge available for these cars and every one that has an enthusiastic owner is one more back on the road and in use. I completely support that and so I'm happy to help with my meager knowledge when possible.
Good luck with your shopping! I'd like to hear about both you're looking at if you care to share.
Justin
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Hello,
They can certainly be made to operate very nicely and reliably but David is correct in that you're doing yourself a big favor if you learn the ins and outs of the transmission. There are Cord 810/812 vehicles that tour all the time and have driven many tens of thousands of miles (on several continents in the case of Josh Malks' car). Like many cars of their age there are a few tweaks and upgrades that, if made, will greatly improve the reliability and enjoyability of driving and ownership. Fortunately for us these have been well documented by the ACD Club and parts are available for all.
I recommend this manual: Cord Service Manual 810/812 for an overview of the entire vehicle and the ACD Club has published a special manual specifically addressing the transmissions of these cars. While not available online yet I can arrange for you to get a copy of this manual if you are interested. Just let me know.
Thanks,
Justin
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Hello,
I highly recommend this publication for the information you seek:
Best of luck!
Justin
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Wouldn't miss it! I'm curious how the 3 auctions will play out this year. I'm still not sure how I'm going to carve up the schedule to see them all. I'm mainly there for the ACD Festival but want to see it all if possible.
Justin
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Email sent.
Justin
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for your post. Yes I am familiar with all of that information and those cars. There are supposedly a couple of others out there but the information is not yet rock solid and I am working on it. I agree though that the search may need to be widened. As you mention 32 Auburn V-12's are certainly a little more available, as an example.
I'm trying to broaden the search outside of the ACD Club realm, hence the post here. You never know who might know of something that has otherwise been forgotten!
Thanks,
Justin
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I am helping my father in his search for a tour car and a 33 or 34 Auburn V12 Salon Sedan is his top choice of vehicle for a variety of reasons. Older restoration is preferred but any condition considered. After all beggars can't be choosers and we recognize these cars are uncommon.
Any information or tips on where I may be able to find a car for sale would be very gratefully appreciated! Please post here or email me at jkerns25@gmail.com
Thank you very much!
Justin Kerns
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I am helping my father in his search for a tour car and a 33 or 34 Auburn V12 Salon Sedan is his top choice of vehicle for a variety of reasons. Older restoration is preferred but any condition considered. After all beggars can't be choosers and we recognize these cars are uncommon.
Any information or tips on where I may be able to find a car for sale would be very gratefully appreciated! Please post here or email me at jkerns25@gmail.com
Thank you very much!
Justin Kerns
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I am helping my father in his search for a tour car and a 33 or 34 Auburn V12 Salon Sedan is his top choice of vehicle for a variety of reasons. Older restoration is preferred but any condition considered. After all beggars can't be choosers and we recognize these cars are uncommon.
Any information or tips on where I may be able to find a car for sale would be very gratefully appreciated! Please post here or email me at jkerns25@gmail.com
Thank you very much!
Justin Kerns
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George,
I don't know if the Pierce one is the same, but there is a historic Wright gas station in Cloquet, MN that is still operated as a service station. You can read about it here:
There is a scan at the bottom of the page for the cover of the original plans, although I don't have a copy. Perhaps the Cloquet Chamber of Commerce could assist if you like the design.
Justin
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Thanks! This car sat in my Great-Grandfather's barn for decades and I used to play in it when I was a little kid. Considering it was buried in mud to the axles and on a farm full of mice I think it is in awesome condition. 20 years ago it was pulled out of the barn and my Grandfather and I got it running and I actually drove it. But now it has sat for another 20 years, albeit in better storage than the old barn!
It is amazingly complete - we even found the keys for the locking sidemounts stuck between the body & the running board!
Justin
anyone remember this AUBURN from central MINN.?
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Hi West,
I need to clarify some things. Firstly, the thread you reference above was started by me in search of a 12-165 or 12-165A Auburn V-12 sedan. It does appear to be true that only 2 or 3 of these cars remain in known existence.
The car in this thread above is not a V-12 car but rather an 8 cylinder car, and there are many more examples in existence. I don't have an exact count as it isn't something I have researched extensively but in the past year I have seen 4 of them in person. Still an uncommon and desirable car to be sure - but not in single digit existence.
Bill Parfet owns a complete set of 1933-1934 Auburn Salon V-12 cars. It includes all 5 body styles - 4 door sedan (Sedan), 2 door sedan (Brougham), 2 door convertible (Cabriolet), 4 door convertible (Phaeton) and the Speedster. Beautiful cars all and there is no doubt the 2 closed cars are the rarest. Many closed cars have been sacrificed to make more open cars over the decades.
Justin