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The still is Cameron Bradley's Mercer Raceabout, now living in California - with that same paint!
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Here's a flock of '14 (?) Loziers - maybe some of them are the same car?
An unrestored car in 1954 -
A. R. Cheek in Denver in 1964 -
A car that was at MovieWorld in the '80s -
A car that was on the HCCA National tour last year -
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Here's another mystery Lozier - not much to go on in the photo. referred to at various times as a 1910, 1912, or 1913, Whitney Snyder drove it on the 1951 & '52 Glidden tours.
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According to a 1967 newspaper article, Parker purchased the car in 1950 from the Moodie estate - presumably referring to Frank Moodie, Alberta oilman. It would be really interesting to read something from the teens about a car that still exists. And only two family owners in 105 years!
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At the moment it may be undetermined - http://www.vintagemotorcarsusa.com/vehicles/details_new.php?id=444
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I think the Hunsberger car still looks like it did when restored - here's the 1967 Antique Automobile cover photo. What a magnificent car.
Not sure where it is now - maybe still with that family?
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Re the color Alberta photo - C. N. Parker of Red Deer, Alberta drove this car on the 1958 tour from Fernie to Vancouver. He experienced magneto trouble which put him behind the other participants for a while, but he eventually caught up. Maybe this photo is from part of the troubleshooting.
He also entered the car in a cross-Canada centennial tour in 1967, but the license plate was different at that time.
There's a small clue that this car moved to California in 2009, destination there unknown.
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Here's the Henry Austin Clark Pierce-Arrow wagon on the 1951 Glidden Tour. It appears to be different from the Al Hood car. No help in figuring out where either of them is today...
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Thanks Lozierman! I was wondering how there could be 2 different big Loziers attributed to Mr. Huntington. The touring car looks sharp, but my goodness, the limo had a stunning and unique (and historical) presence.
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Lindley Bothwell owned this monumental Lozier as late as 1959. It was reported to be in original, unrestored condition when owned by Bothwell. But it wasn't part of the recent liquidation of the his collection. Where could it have gone?
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Here's a bigger photo of the Corbin in 1948.
A September 1949 list of cars in Murchio's museum included the Corbin. (Unfortunately it didn't show any cars newer than a 1920 Locomobile.) No later citations of Murchio through 1960 mentioned a Corbin.
A 1908 Corbin owned by John Dower climbed Giant's Despair in 1951. And that's the final mention of an '08 Corbin I could find in the Antique Automobile.
At least one 1908 touring car is still in circulation -
https://www.theday.com/article/20180219/BIZ09/180219323
Mark V. Johnson, VP of the organization that puts on the show where the above photo was taken, wrote a book on Corbin in 2011. He might have some insight.
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Another steamer - 1910 or so Stanley, ownership attributed to Dr Henry Jewell of Nashua. It has a curious, probably homemade mother-in-law seat stuck on to the factory rear box. Probably taken in the late '30s or early '40s, by the car in the background - it could easily have survived.
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Re the Olds parade photo - Francis V DuPont of Wilmington entered a 1911 Olds in the 1946 Glidden.
The 1948 AACA roster said that he had a 1911 "Aristocrat" - the politically correct way of talking about an Autocrat? I don't think this was an Olds model, probably just an error.
1954-61 rosters show a 1911 4-cylinder, 7-pass. car, in "original" condition, #65755, owned by Charles Boothby. The 1968 register doesn't show 65755, but it shows a 1911 4-cylinder 7-pass. Autocrat, owned by J A Frost.
I'm unilaterally calling the election for the boardwalk photo car to be DuPont (though I may have been tampered with :-). But even I wouldn't want to make any hard guesses about Boothby or Frost.
I wonder if the color photo is Atlantic City. There were regular antique car parades there, and the 1948 parade shows a placard very similar to the one on the Olds.
And what's 2 cars behind the Olds? A Model K Ford with wire wheels? Hispano-Suiza Alfonso XIII? Cameron Peck sent a 1912 Hispano-Suiza to the 1949 parade.
The Hispano that he had in at Fairmount Park in 1949 sure looked like the parade car.
Speaking of cars from long ago, is this the roadster that is now at Beaulieu?
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A few more Stanleys... The first, from 1950, is probably a 1906 or '07 EX; the picture is poor. But it mentions a museum in Skaneateles NY put together by Harold Bertrand and Miss Margaret Lewis. Seems like kind of an odd car museum partnership, and I never heard of them.
Next is one of those ug..., that is, distinctively-styled broughams, a Model 740 dated 1923. Owned in 1957 by J. F. Cochran who worked for Convair in Fort Worth. 3rd is a Model CX owned by David Gabhart of Detroit in 1964.
And finally one of the nifty 4-passenger tourings, a Model 735 dated 1920. This one was owned by Foster Blickenstaff in Hagerstown in 1966, and sold by him not long before before he built the non-condensing Stanley mashup which I now own. His family doesn't know where it went. Maybe somebody out there...?
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There are 2 Otto roadsters - there are nice articles on them in the May-June 1959 issue of Antique Automobile. One was owned by Joseph Kurtz in PA, and had been bought new by his brother. It's still in PA, participating these days in HCCA tours. The other was restored & owned by Bill Kurtz of Pittsford, NY, who had bought it from its second owner, a Mr. Cole. I don't know where this car is now, but I'm sure the owner of the other Otto does.
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OT, I drove one of these last year and it was delightfully energetic. Unfortunately the shift lever was positioned under my right knee. I suspect it had been installed backward, and its angle should have taken it toward the outside of the car.
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Spectacular set of photos! The 1954 event was held in England, and the 1957 event was held in the US. Tusek wasn't involved in the 1957 event.
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Does anyone have any color photos of the cars that participated in this event? In addition to the event itself, there was a parade in Washington DC before the team left, and it was attended by VP Richard Nixon. There are numerous newspaper photos of Nixon in Paul Tusek's 1906 Stanley Model H5. Recent research has revealed that this car was painted bright yellow, with brown trim. This was probably James Melton's choice, from whom Tusek purchased the car. It would be very cool to see any photo of this car during the time of the race, or any other time in the '50s, because the yellow would really be an astonishing look for one of these cars.
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Here's one of them consarned gas cars, but it has a close relationship with a Stanley. In 1951, Popular Mechanics and the Chicago Museum of Science and industry put on a "race" to finally settle which was better, steam or gas. Two cheerful old codgers in their 70s, on the museum staff, drove a 1913 Stanley Model 63 and a 1911 Stoddard-Dayton from Chicago to New York City in about 8 days. It was widely covered by the AP at the time, and also generated a couple of articles in PM. The Stanley still exists, and belongs to a friend. But what about the S-D? It can't possibly have been scrapped since 1951. Further research has turned up the name of the original owner. I'd love to pass this along to the current caretaker. (By the way, the Stanley "won", with a 37-minute edge in elapsed time.)
Incidentally, each car also had a passenger, a cute staff member from the museum or the magazine, for the whole trip. Amazingly, the woman who rode in the S-D is still living. I'm hoping she will have some fun memories to share.
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Many many mystery Stanley pix on file - here are a few.
The first one is one of the most stubborn - beautiful shot of a Model 740 in Florida, owned by John Russell in the early '50s. I suspect it's stil lin Florida, but have no concrete info. Russell also owned a very nice barrel-hood Franklin.
A couple more recent ones. This is Walter Durst of Wisconsin, now deceased, in 1970, in his Model 735.
FOUND! This is #19505, now living in Illinois.
And another Florida car, also a Model 735, Bob Lewin, in 1971.
And, a couple of early ones. First is bandleader Jack Teagarden, probably in 1939. He had his beloved Stanley shipped to Texas at that time so he could drive it there while associated with some show. He put it in storage and managed to forget about it for 10 years, and gave it to the garage owner for storage fees. So sometime around 1949, a very nice Model 64 became available in Texas. (Although it looks like the burner is out of it at the moment.) This image came from a blog that I can no longer locate.
These images are available on eBay. Someone must recognize the estate of an early collector - I'm pretty sure it's not Melton. Pictures look like '40s or early '50s to me.
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A friend has said he's willing to measure up the old one and put it in CAD. He thought he could either 3D print some casting patterns, or carve it out of a block of aluminum on his CNC. Just thinking about options in case this takes a while.
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I'd be interested in a 6v version of something like the Bosch. In this case it's to get something going quickly while pursuing the project to recreate the original pump, which is both ruined and unobtainable. ('13 Paige)
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Thanks. My '13 is 3 1/8 - and it's brass. I suspect this one is from 1912.
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What is the OD of the threaded side?
Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?
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Who would have thought there'd be another photo available, of the same car at the same event?!? This one was printed in the program for the June 11-18, 1949 Antique Auto Show in Philadelphia.