[What is this car? #2 Photo 1918.]

It is a sedan rather than a coupe. It looks to have a removeable centre pillar. I know Buicks of this era have that feature, but I have no evidence that Dodge did the same. It may depend on who the body supplier was.

 

The photo can be found here - where there are still some unidentified vehicles - IMCDb.org: "The Cars That Made America, 2017": cars, bikes, trucks and other vehicles

 

[What is this car? #4 Photo 1918.]

7 minutes ago, Don Wiss said:

Thanks for the response. I hadn't flipped the image, as the uncropped image has Arthur handwritten on the picture in the gravel. Though I suppose I could cut that off, flip, then reattach. Or just cut it off. I put Arthur in the caption.

When the original was printed someone didn't look closely at the registration plate. They could have put the negative around the right way then.

[What is this car? Photo 1917.]

Still working on the make but I was able to clear some of the blemishes from the photo - 

 

 

[What is this car? #4 Photo 1918.]

It is a Model 34B Oakland from 1918-19 .

 

I flipped the photo for you.

 

 

[1932 Dictator production info]

As far as I know there are no detailed production figures available for any Studebakers before 1935.

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An evocative period workshop shot borrowed from a French Facebook page. Not a lot of clues as to where it was taken. I am guessing the cars are being rebuilt rather than being new builds.

 

There is a box with Gasoline written on it but that could be a WW1 leftover.

 

The closer chassis has a maker's plate but the photo is not clear enough to read it.

 

Maybe a brass era expert can pick up clues from the numbers of hub bolts etc.

 

One possible clue is that the wheels have oval spokes. I have an ITALA front axle with oval spokes, although I have no idea what model it is from. ITALA redesigned their cars every year in that era and made a large range of models from quite small to quite large.

 

 

EDIT - I found the pics I took a few years ago of the ITALA wheels. They are quite different. I reckon these wheels would have taken 820 x 120 metric tyres.

 

 

[Headlamp Rim from 1920s what does it fit?]

24 minutes ago, paulrhd29nz said:

Some happy looking folks you got there. 
Apple picking time. Have you ever figured out what’s on the chalkboard? 
Is there a family story behind the fender?

Always love your photos and contributions to this form. 

Someone once thought it might have been an apple pie recipe. I haven't been able to read it.

 

I guess the bent fender was just normal battle scars. 

 

The car was put up for sale just post WW2, and unfortunately, some scrap men came in and broke it up with sledgehammers and left behind what they didn't want. We cleared the rusting remains of the body about 50 years ago. The only surviving part of it is the Waltham clock.

[Headlamp Rim from 1920s what does it fit?]

Those lamps were used 1922-24 on the Model EK. This is my grandparents' 1924 Stude Big Six in 1942. 

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The barely visible text on the photo says - "Koondrook, Departure for the War, 17th Light Horse, 1914."

 

Koondrook is a small town in inland Victoria, Australia. 

 

It is likely that the men took their own horses with them. 

 

I think the car is a 1912 Buick Model 34.

 

 

 

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1928, at 417 Ferry Rd, Christchurch, New Zealand. From the city engineer's report at the time - "The City Engineer’s report describes the station at 417 Ferry Road as having no service building. It only includes a pump placed next to a wooden building, which is a bicycle repair shop. The petrol pumps and the shop are both owned by C H Robinson."

 

Petrol station, Woolston | canterburystories.nz

 

Unfortunately, the front of the car is hard to see.

 

The price of one shilling and eleven pence for an imperial gallon represents about one to two hours' wages for a working man.

 

 

 

There is still a gas station on that site, though much larger than 95 years ago.

 

Nowadays, even though people complain about the price of petrol, it is relatively less expensive than in 1928 at less than half the average hourly wage for an imperial gallon equivalent.

 

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Sturt St, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia, probably in the late 1930s.

 

The small English car at lower right is not yet identified. It looks to be a GMC tanker truck next to it.  Many of the American cars are likely to have locally produced bodies.

 

 

 

A recent view from street level. Some of the same buildings visible.

 

 

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A photo captioned Dingmans Ferry, PA, Oct 4, 1914. 

 

That looks to be a circa 1913-14 American Underslung on the left. That is a brand new 1915 Oakland Model 37 roadster on the right.

 

In the centre might be a 1913 Haynes Model 22.

 

Photo as first seen and a tidied version.

 

Alos a link to some Haynes advertising material - American Automobile Advertising published by Haynes-Apperson in 1913 (uniquecarsandparts.com.au)

 

I have added a photo of a 1913 Haynes Model 23 (the bigger six) which led me to thinking the centre in the photo car might be a Haynes.

 

 

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One of the first motor buses in Howick, Auckland, New Zealand, maybe circa 1905.

 

Apparently a Milnes-Daimler.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

I was thinking 1926 Paige.

Stude - 

 

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10 hours ago, MetroPetro said:

Circa 1925 Studebaker Special Six on the left.

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23 hours ago, 32buick67 said:

Curious of this car...

 

1929 Austin 7 with a mid/late 1929 London UK registration.

 

A useful link for UK plates - Car registration letter codes 1900-1972 (oldclassiccar.co.uk)

[4-speed option or Rear differential gearing question - 31 Commander]

1 hour ago, Henry Ford said:

I had the same problem with my '30 Dictator with Straight 8. Rear axle is 4.73, engine was screaming at 40 MPH. I made an adapter plate to bolt to the original bellhousing to accept a T5 transmission from an S10. Much better driving now with a .72 O/D. Floor is still flat and no one would know unless they craw underneath. The six cylinder cars had much better rear axle ratios.

 

Your car maybe been 'screaming' at 40 mph, but it was likely doing only 2,000 rpm. As I noted in my earlier comment, straight eights can sound very busy, especially in an old car with little sound proofing. My guess is with the T5 that the slightest incline would mean dropping down to 4th gear. The six-cylinder Dictators of that era used the same short rear end ratios as the eights. What will give away that you have a modern box is the distinctive howl of second gear will be gone. That is one of the endearing characteristics of a pre-synchro box.

[ID this touring ?]

1 hour ago, Fordy said:

If the brass circular bit on the radiator was clearer, it would be easier. I think Peerless spelt out on an angle, REO was circular like that one but it's way too fancy.

Steve

I think the 'brass circular bit' is more likely a personal logo relating to the owner, or the town.

 

I reckon the brass name plates on radiators were mostly aftermarket.

[4-speed option or Rear differential gearing question - 31 Commander]

When you say 30-35 mph 'max', what do you mean?

 

Have you fitted a tachometer?  Peak power for that engine is developed at 3200 rpm so it should run up to 3000 easily and a healthy cruise would be at about 2500.

 

You should be able to calculate the figures from known parameters - diff ratio, and tire diameter etc.  Try putting figures in here - Speed versus RPM calculator (wahiduddin.net)

 

I put some figures in there and reckon at 2500 rpm you should get somewhere between 45 and 50 mph cruise depending on tire size. Btw one inch either way in wheel diameter does not make that much difference, but the tire section can.

 

There was a debate here in NZ recently about the tires fitted to the Morris 8hp cars in the 1930s. The standard size was a 4.50 x 17 but the export cars mostly got 5.25 x 16. There were those who thought the 16s would give lower gearing - perhaps for our bad roads of time. There is actually negligible difference between the two sizes.

 

One thing many forget is that without using a tachometer engine speed is hard to judge. Straight eights especially always sound busy, even at relatively low rpm. Also they are not like fuel injected moderns that will roll along at a highish cruise speed in overdrive top at 2000 or less.

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Wichita Falls, Texas, maybe late teens? A chummy roadster of some sort. Maybe Haynes, or Pathfinder, or Dorris or???

 

 

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Cincinatti, Ohio, 1910 according the caption with this one. Not very high res unfortunately.

 

Locomobile?

 

 

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7 hours ago, twin6 said:

Did that in 2015, although of course in a modern it is a piece of cake. There were times the fog was thick enough you could not see past the front of the hood.

 

Fall River ridge in Colorado back in 1978 was more of a mission, especially in a 'sea level' car.

 

 

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On 10/9/2023 at 8:08 AM, John E. Guitar said:

Assembling hydroplane Curtiss H-1 America for its launching in 1914, Lake Keuka.

 

https://www.loc.gov/item/2014696375/

 

 

Maybe an electric of some sort?? There is a photo out there somewhere taken in New York around the same time which includes a car with a similar rear end.

[Period images to relieve some of the stress]

Te Awamutu, New Zealand, early 1920s. 

 

[What is the make & model of this 1920's vehicle?]

The car in the first picture has wood felloe wheels so is likely not later than circa 1922.

 

A fairly large car I think.