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The skinny tyres, and the head lamps, confirm the early date - 1924-25.
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Lake Arrowhead, California. Date not noted. Not a large photo unfortunately but someone might be able to recognise the two big convertibles and maybe even the body makers.
I think a Big Six Studebaker parked between those two. Possibly a 1929-30 Pontiac on the left, and a circa 1927 Chrysler 60.
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Studebaker?
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1 hour ago, twin6 said:
1908 Ford Model S.
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10 hours ago, MetroPetro said:
An Austin Seven special, photo taken in New Zealand 1930-31. No clues to the location as the same plates were used nationwide, though it is sometimes possible from researching photos to pick which numbers were issued in which areas.
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9 hours ago, twin6 said:
Peerless, c. 1913? More cool hats.
1914 Peerless 60-Six?
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Father Jules Gavois has his 1891 Panhard-Levassor refueled. I hope someone can date the photo from the gas pump. I don't think it is early as 1921 when the story in this link occurred.
There was an 1891 Panhard here in NZ for some time but I think it has since been sold overseas. It was at the time the seventh oldest known running car. I think it may have been a smaller model than Father Jules' one - it was a very compact car. I did see the owner start it up at an event. Took quite some time to get the 'hot tubes' hot enough for it to fire up. My photo from about 1990 -
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17 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:
I don't want to see these cars without skirts.
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Thye do tend to look a little odd from the front though -
This is a recreation that my son has done quite a lot of work on at his employer's shop for an overseas client. My son built the chassis from scratch and a lot of the structural bits. If you look closely at the top of the radiator there is a photo of what the car will look like. The mechanicals and electrics are all mid 2000s V8 BMW. Expected to be completed next year I think. My photo from a couple of weeks ago.
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Fender skirts were also a popular accessory for the 1949-52 Chevs that were sold new in NZ. The cars were sourced from Canada, and locally assembled. There was only one model available - a four door sedan that fitted somewhere between the US Special and Deluxe models. At a time when cars were still in short supply, mainly due to currency restrictions, and most buyers were forced to buy small English cars, the Chevs were highly valued for their strength and ruggedness. Only about 2,300 were sold here over the four year period.
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Here in NZ they were a popular accessory on the E series Vauxhalls of the 1952-57 period.
First photo from 1957 showing how cars were loaded onto the interisland ferry.
The other photo taken at Milford Sound in the 1970s.
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They certainly look the part on 1965-onwards Pontiac Bonnevilles.
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Something new to me on a car this early (1914 Iowa plate) - swiveling lights. Photo posted by Murray Mill on a facebook page - source not quoted.
Edit - the car is a 1913 Auburn.
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My first thought was that the number in the photo is the Budd body number.
BUT - my book of serial numbers has the Wolverine as the very last entry, and the source quoted is 'Motor's manual'.
It says the Wolverine was the Model B, and production began in May 1927 and the 1927 model cars ran from #1 to #4,699.
The 1928 models began in August 1927 and numbers ran from #4,700-14,299.
Going by that info it looks as if that number in the photo could be the car number, and your car is a very early 1928 model probably built August/September 1927.
I wonder of the Continental engine has a casting date on it somewhere (block or head). I think there should be a maker's plate on the engine. The engine should be a Model 15E - 3 1/4" x 4" - 199 cid - making 50 hp @ 2,400 rpm. I think that later in the 1928 run there was a change to a larger engine. I can't be sure but I think engine may have seven main bearings.
I know someone who has a Wolverine and thinks the engine is quite a good unit. This is his car, from before he owned it I think. It was built up from a wreck in the 1980s. Local registration records show it is car number B-8599. I think it has the Continental 16E engine in it - 3 3/8" x 4" - 214 cid - 65 hp @ 2,800 rpm (according to my book of specs). I saw it on our winter event in June and it seemed to go quite well.
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The number 52474505 is a 1949 engine number.
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6 hours ago, twin6 said:
Fiat?
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4 minutes ago, Jorge Amado said:
Rover 20 hp circa 1907.
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The rail link between the east and West Coasts of New Zealand's South Island was not completed until 1923 when the five-mile long Otira tunnel was opened. At the time it was one of the longest tunnels in the world. The railway reached Arthur's Pass township - then known as Bealey Flats - on the eastern side and Otira on the western side by 1914 and until then travelers had to travel between the railheads by coach over the potentially treacherous Arthur's Pass.
Arthur's Pass (mountain pass) - Wikipedia
Midland Railway | Engineering NZ
The first two photos date from 1913 and 1914, and the other two from circa 1921. As far as I know horse drawn coaches were the only transport used. I don't think there were any suitable motorised vehicles available. As it was the men were usually expected to walk over the Pass.
The worst part of the zig-zag on the Otira side, which due to unstable nature of the terrain required constant maintenance, was bypassed by a new bridge in the 1990.
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No idea of the vehicle make, or the photo date. I am guessing that outside wheel is a parking brake - or maybe that is THE brake. The guy on the roof appears to be reading a cycling newspaper.
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It doesn't help that Chrysler looks to be sitting high at the rear. I know that back in the day each body style was fitted with specific rate springs. Maybe this car was originally a sedan.
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54 minutes ago, 32PONTIAC said:
Just curious on what size the tires my be?
From 1928 Chrysler used 18" rims when most car were still on 19s or bigger.
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What is the story with the body? Was it built later in the car's life? The style, with its slanted windshield suggests a later date.
I have never been a fan of 'bare wood look' wood wheels. I am sure that back in the day they were mostly painted either body colour, or in a contrasting colour.
Along with others here I am not a fan of white walls on cars of this era, even though they may have been available when the car was new.
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23 hours ago, twin6 said:
Maybe a 1921 NY plate? - Vehicle registration plates of New York - Wikipedia
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6 hours ago, twin6 said:
1928 Essex.
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2 hours ago, Leif Holmberg said:
1930 or 1931 hard to say but it seems to be a Century ser 60 extended to 155 wb.? The head light looks to be from a 1932 but it can be an illusion?
The distinguishing feature which differentiates the 1931 from the 1930 Buicks is the radiator cap with an 8 on it. Unfortunately it is not visible here.
Buick didn't use the term Century until the 1936 model year.
The car looks to be a stretched Buick chassis, more likely from 1930 I think, but whether it is a Series 50 or 60 is hard to say. They both used the big 331 cid six. and both were on 6.50 x 19 tyres.
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Putting a year date on a car, particularly one from the late 1920s and early 1930s, can be difficult as many makers had odd part year model runs. Just as one example, as far as I know all of the Studebaker third design GE Dictators were built in calendar year 1928, but the factory regarded them as 1929 models. I know my 1929 Studebaker was already here in NZ before Christmas 1928. It wasn't actually sold until July 1930. The Depression delayed sales of many cars. It took Ford of New Zealand until 1934 to clear the last of the Model As.
Regarding the Viking it probably reasonable to assume that due to effects of October 1929, that the decision to stop production was made quite early(?) - maybe late 1929, or early 1930? As others have noted it likely took most of 1931 to clear stocks.