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  1. I've read that Pershing had about a '14 Buick and it didn't suit him. That then could well be the Buick I attached above and as so often happens, the photo is mislabeled in text where I found it. Thanks for the positive ID of the Buick.

    He was assigned a '15 Dodge touring by the Army when he commanded the 8th Brigade at Camp Bliss in El Paso, TX. That serial number- documented '15 Dodge car is today privately owned in Mountain View, Arkansas. This was Pershing's first experience with Dodge and why he requested the group of '16 Dodges for the Mexico campaign. Attached pic is that 1915 Dodge.

    There is a small museum at Fort Bliss called Pershing House. Within it there is a display of a '16 Dodge touring "like" the one's Pershing used.

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  2. Well, of course the top is removable so it could have been lost or they have it in storage. But one would think the car should be presented as Pershing used it.

    I did find the attached pic which says it is of him in an open touring and that this is the car he called "Daisy" but it could very well have been one of the other touring cars with the group.

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  3. If you are reading this you know that General Pershing employed a convoy of either 3 or 6 (depending on the source) 1916 Dodge 4 cyl. touring cars to pursue Poncho Villa in Mexico. This was the first military use of a car! Several sources say that "Black Jack" himself always rode in an enclosed car. In 1955 that '16 Dodge touring with Rex Top "winter equipment" which made it appear to be an enclosed sedan was found in France and purchased by Daniel Parker, son of the founder of Parker Pen and taken to his farm in Janesville, WI. The attached photo shows it arriving at the port of New York by boat. It then did a little touring around the country including being displayed in Corpus Christi, Texas during 1955 according to an article in their archives.

    Then what happened to the car? Was it kept by Parker in Wisconsin until his death and if so, what then?

    Where is General Black Jack Pershing's 1916 Dodge?

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  4. I'm looking at the Nat'l Insurance Crime Bureau's Passenger Vehicle Identification Manual (available on CD) and yes you have a DU model and the engine number should be in the range of DU-1001 - 159544. VINs 3746501 - 4015050. Location of serial number is only give as "right frame below fender" plus the plate on the right door post (which you are missing). Your D2 engine number is shown as being in the 1936 range so perhaps it was changed.

  5. Worst tapered-axle drum I ever removed was a '49 Hudson. After heat and days and penetrant, I got my father's 10 pound sledge hammer and on the third hit it let go. It sounded like a small canon. Neighbors from both side properties came running probably thinking I was dead under the car. Best comment was from the fellow to the west who owned a shop: ATTA BOY.

  6. Is the rear window frame correct for 34 Hudson? I have a couple of them and always wondered what they were for.

    '34-35 Hudson and Terraplane (perhaps '33 and '36 also) used this frame. The back window frame was removed from the original top and used in its first replacement top. Then it was removed from that top and rechromed for use in this new top 2 years ago. So I am certain this is the original and it matches factory photos as well. If you care to PM me, I'll go to the barn and provide you measurements.

  7. The design is Ghia in collaboration with Virgil Exner Sr.. On the rear flanks is "300" script. There were others also including a 350, 375, 400. And the Chrysler "613 concept" which Ex personally drove for some time and which became the '57 Chrysler 300C, was called the "Chrysler 500" as noted by Virgil Jr.

    Attaching obverse and reverse of a Ghia factory photo. I would say the car is very valuable as is any complete and running concept car, however this one has virtually no US familiarity nor with collectors worldwide. Obscurity lessens value.

    But I'd own it in a heartbeat if you can get it out of country for me !

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