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Best evidence I've been able to find suggest about two dozen Spohn Customs were built in the '50-57 era. Spohn closed in mid-57 and did innumerable cars concurrently but still not a sufficient number to retain their craftsmen. As contracts and employees dwindled, the end was inevitable, as it had been for most prewar coachbuilders. I have a database listing the Spohn Custom cars (defined as American chassis with coachbuilt bodies to owner preferences). Most Spohn Customs received the LeSabre tail treatment but not all of them.
I'm also very fond of the attached '50 Oldsmobile done by Spohn very much as an American-style custom of the time with chop and section work.
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I have found that one '37 Terraplane woody exists. It was in for some minor work at Wildrick Restoration in Indiana in 2011-12. Have not found an owner's name nor location. But am sure you want to see it. Photo credit to Wildrick.
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Hey Mike in Illinois, You've found the driveway Spohn Custom photo mentioned when we talked. Thanks for posting it! For other readers, as you can tell by my avatar, I now own the Spohn Custom which Mike had on his driveway some years ago.
'35 T woody - WoW - guess it never appeared again.
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Dismount your spare tire at an older tire shop. Have them look at the construction of the wheel. If the center is riveted to the outer rim, it will leak air without a tube. If the center was electro-welded into the rim, it will accept a tubeless tire. Also "safety wheels" were introduced in the early '50s which had a small step at the tire bead to help hold the tire on the rim when going flat. Ask some Studebaker guys when welded wheels and safety wheels were introduced. You might want to buy a set of wheels from a Stude a few or more years newer.
Important consideration that many overlook: Don't just buy a size interchange from a chart because you will end up with too small a diameter. Buy one size larger than what the chart says.
I ran Diamond Back radials on my '53 Commander and loved them.
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In 1935 Terraplane and Hudson cars equipped with Axle-Flex front axles came factory equipped with a torsion bar side-to-side through the rear frame just behind the axle which linked down to the leaf spring mountings to help stabilize the car.
This assembly of parts was available from the factory as a retro-fit for the '34 cars also optionally equipped with Axle-Flex. I have a '34 Terraplane with Axle-Flex. Would like to locate a stabilizer.
If you are parting out a '35 Hud or Terra with this equipment, please contact me. I have a few related pictures. If you are a hot rodder modifying or replacing an original chassis from an Axle-Flex car, I can appreciate that too; let's talk.
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Flier24, I am encouraged and excited by your ongoing research and interest. We await comments from the Hoffman owner which might add structure and direction to these discoveries.
May I ask your personal interest or background regarding Hudson-related?
Thanks.
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Refreshing back to top of the forum in hopes someone can offer further Dayton information and /or owns another of the Dayton Cyclecars. Thanks.
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Have any of you ever known of an existing Terraplane woody wagon?
There were a few special ordered in 1934 and 1935 with a '34 photo common around the internet.
Then in 1936 - 1938, they were in the Terraplane commercial car brochure as a factory offering.
Do any exist in any condition anywhere today?
I'm NOT asking about Hudson woodies starting 1939 to as late as 1947. I'm aware of a large handful of those that exist. Just no early Terraplanes.
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Chris, Mr. Vernis will be reviewing this thread, with your posts, soon. Thank you.
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flier24, you have signed "Mike" and also "Chris". What ever. Thank you for posting. I've updated Myron Vernis, owner of the Hoffman to the comments. More information is always better !
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Factories paint assembled engines prior to electrical component and carburetor installation. It is the only cost effecient and practical way to do it. And lower cost means bottom line profits which is why they are being built. Especially in the case of metallic infused paint like an aluminum silver, the electrical components such as starter, generator, coil if engine-mounted, could be compromised by a metallic paint.
Bypass hoses such as the '57-59 Hemi and their clamps were painted because they were already assembled to the engine.
Fuel pumps often got partially painted because often it was quickest and cheapest to install them during engine completion. But carburetors are never installed before paint.
In many cases overhead valve covers are a contrasting color and are thus installed later.
And a warning: NEVER go by an engine pictured in a sales brochure for your authenticity. They are almost colored for marketing purposes and have nothing to do with production line authenticity.
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My '17 Dodge Bros. winter touring was parked in 1937 for inability to find tires to suit the car. I bought it last spring. Photo shows the 70 year old battery that was under the original cover and what I have to presume is the original ground strap running to the frame upper right.
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It wasn't built to sustain 70 MPH when it was NEW, now was it? Now its 90 years old and you have no reason other than possible aerodynamics behind your towing vehicle to expect it can take it. And if still original windshield glass, it was NOT safety glass.
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Wash it. 90% of us are sick and tired of repetitious filthy "barn find" pictures. Then provide meaningful pics that support a $20K starting price for this on-line auction thread.
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And then there is this plaster model, believed to be a Frank Spring design dating back to the era. There is no exacting documentation with it however. Looks very similar.
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Photos show a 1914 Dayton Cyclecar manufactured in Joliet, Illinois during 1913-14. First cars had a 2 cyl. Spacke air-cooled engine. Later cars including this one have a Massnick-Phipps 4 cyl water-cooled engine. Seeking any information such as other owners, sales folders, parts books, engine gaskets. What have you? Thanks!
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In suburban Chicago, I took photos of a 1914 Dayton Cyclecar produced by that company in Joliet, IL. It is a late production car employing a Massnick-Phipps 4 cyl. I did not see the left side of the engine to know whether it has the "Perkins
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I have photos of a friend's original 1914 Dayton cyclecar (Joliet, IL) which has a Massnick-Phipps engine. I do not have a pic of the other side of the block to see if it says "Perkins".
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Parallel discussion over at the Hudson club: http://forum.hetclub.org/discussion/166913/1933-hudson-experimental-v-type-engine#latest
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We all care because many of us have either been on similar journeys or had buddies. We persevere and survive and you will too.
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I have a '17 DB touring and so does a friend nearby. His dash has the box. Mine has a vent hole in that area. I'm told it was a running change or a choice during the year. Go by your serial number on the frame or the VIN plate if you have it and can read it and NOT by the dash.
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This was an extremely well done clone using an excellent So Calif '60 Windsor convert and '60 Adventurer coupe. Brad Beardsley that built it died shortly after completion. It was auctioned a B-J Scottsdale once and "restored" again after that. Boyd Coddington had it in his collector car showroom for a couple years. I would own this car at this price. I've seen it in person and it is GORGEOUS.
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Thanks for the hub puller link .
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http://www.runningboardrubbermats.com/matreproductionlist.html
Kris Arnesson did RB mats for my '34 Terraplane from my poor originals. OUTSTANDING. He already has your pattern. Would not hesitate to use this company again
HCCA National - Kerrville, Texas
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Some two dozen trailers in the parking lot of the YO Hotel right off IH-10 60 miles west of San Antonio. A few cars out testing in a light drizzle as we leave the last couple days poor weather. Hope to meet some folks and see all the cars in the evenings when returned from tours.