Guest therustyranch Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I have two IGE 4027 Distributors I found, don't know what they are for either v-12 or twin six, any help would be great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I scanned thru the 1946 Auto-Lite service and parts catalog, the only car that had a IGE prefix is 30's Nash. There is no 4027 suffix. It may be a marine application. Is the distributor a dual point ,or have a four lobe cam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therustyranch Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Yes, has dual points four lobe cam and a dual rotor. Did nash use there own motor or was it another manufacturer. Thanks Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I am not a Nash guy, but I believe they used their own motors. They had a dual ignition system in some cars. The IGE distributors that Nash used were for 6 cylinder cars. I sent you a Private Message in reference to the distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 My 1945 Autolite Parts Lists for government vehicles has the exact number but I cannot see it listed to a certain make or model. It is quite likely I have missed it as there are over 200 lists and this number is likely to be a single entry on one make/model entry. It does mean however that it was used in a US Government Vehicle and likely to have been during WW2. RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 My 46 edition doesn't have anything for government or marine applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therustyranch Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Here are some pictures of what I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I notice there is a rev counter drive on the shaft housing so that tells me it is likely to be from an industrial or heavy application. It could possibly be from a fire appliance, known for twin ignition systems. I'll have another look in my book. RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therustyranch Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The two on the right are part number 4027. The one with the tachometer output I cant read the numbers on, it is similar but a little different than the other two. All I know is they were all in the same box when I got them. I am going to try and lightly sand the number plate and see if I can get the numbers off the one with the tach drive tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Right, I have it. It was fitted to a Hercules Model HX as fitted to a Biederman F1 and P1 truck during WW2. Fred Chrismon (U.S. Military Wheeled Vehicles mentions that the F1 was built by Reo, Federal, Corbitt and Biederman but I cannot find it being used in those applications, only Beiderman. RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therustyranch Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The one on the left with the tach drive the part number is 4249. Thanks Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therustyranch Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 What are these worth, I am going to sell them. I think I over payed when I purchased them, thinking they were for a cadilac v-12 or something like that. Thanks Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have never completely figured out the Auto-Lite numbering system. The distributor in the attached pix is an IGH 4027 The IG stands for ignition. I would think an IGE 4027 and a IGH 4027 would be similar.It is clear the 4027 is not a part number. Does any one know what the number letter combination in the right side of the ID tag mean? Is there a Auto-Lite guy that can clear this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 FWIW---(1) AL # IGE 4027 does show in an AL dist parts list in a 1956 Filko Truck/Bus catalog, but not, as far as i could see eyeballing, in the makes lists...(don't believe catalog listed any military models despite covering WWII period)...(2) Various other IGEs with 40XX numbers appear for Cont'ls in Brockways and in other Hercs in an Oshkosh...(3) As mentioned above, I would agree probably in some dual ign emergency vehicles, and I'd post your find to fire truck etc sites....don't despair, some fire truck collectors restorers are as deep pocketed as V12 auto owners...(ALF had a V12, but it seems to've used DR per that catalog)...(4) the Herc HX was a series, running fron HXA 43/4 x 6 thru HXE 53/4x6 and HXL (don't have b/s for that one) with somw variations thrown in..(5) AL distributor lists at hand run IGA thru E, IGH, IGJ thru M, IGO and P, IGR thru T, and IGW (1956 lists). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Should've thought to add that dual ign also used on numerous "industrial" engines used in stand-alone installations, particularly sites where only checked once a day, if that often, to increase reliability of operation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Brass Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 My Autolite catalog of Military applications lists the IGE 4027 with reference to the Biederman P1 and F1 (fitted with Hercules HX) does show it is dual ignition. The thinking at the time may have been that two spark plugs were required to fire the charge in a large cylinder. For that reason, it may have run as a twin six system, rather than having a a seperate emergency system. RegardsAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Every time I run across one of these dual/twin ign threads I mean to start noting the differing designs---dist and mag, two dist's, plugs on both sides of engine, 90 or 45 or other degrees, etc., I think I've still got a Wauk 145 manual which, IIRC, show dual plugs on one side, one vertically over the other!!...Forgot the Mcfarlan, and I'm sure many others, had triple ign...Didn't note, and can't recall now, the larger industrials with 4 plus per cyl, etc...There's probably a definitive book somewhere on such system, that I probably can't afford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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