Rattpac Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Late straight 8, 1953 4bbl carter. Napa could not even find one in the books but if I can get a Victor number or another application that they can cross over. Would really appreciate any input, hot and heavy on getting the engine and tranny back in the car this weekend. (See Attachment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 If it's the same as V8 then check the 55-56 Xref. I bought carb to manifold gasket at AZO for my 56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Original Carter 1A-76, which was superceded by 1A-97, which was superceded by 1A-108 (final service number).Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_49packard Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 As Packardv8 mentioned there is a excel crossref list in the archives.If you cannot find it I maybe able to locate the copy I saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 AZone does not list a Gasket for 55-56,, at least not online. Old Azone number by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 49Packard, Help! not sure how to run a search in the archives....Here's a post from AZone for a 4bbl carter 1 7/16 but if the pictures correct, it will not come with the heat riser cutout and the bolt pattern is much wider than Packard also special order.See attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_49packard Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Send me an email address by private message and I will send it to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Oldest Felpro book we have is 1980; the gasket was gone by then.Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Good thing I was careful with the old ones. Could probably reuse the with a coat of Gasketcinch. Made a photo copy of the gaskets and I have found larger gaskets with the same hole spread but I will need to trim the gaskets down and repunch the stud holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbking Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Here are pictures of original parts, if I can figure out the attachments.Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 If all else fails , get some gasket material and make a new one... I may have one or 2 hanging aroung here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Jon, those be the ones! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Are any of these available from youMy other option would be to order 2 Mr. Gasket #57's and do some modifications (trimming and hole punching) and use those. PM me on the details to obtain. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 If i am not mistaken, the pic that CarbKing shows in the attachment is the same as (LATE) 55 thru 65 Chevrolet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Looks like I will have to use this gasket and trim to fit. (See Attachement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Like Albert suggest, it's fairly easy to Make that type gasket. Most auto parts stores have the material in various thickness and sizes. For tools, I use sissors, exacto-knifes and hole punches (the type punches you hit with a hammer, in various sizes). I first make a cardboard templete or pattern that fits exactly and then copy it onto the gasket material. I then label and file the patterns for future use, in case I need another one. When cutting the smaller holes with punches, use a piece of soft wood for backing board, to make a clean cut and not damage punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 cutting or modifying your own gasket is just fine. BUT, if it is the same as 55 - 65 chev then it mite be easier and cheaper to buy it from one of the vintage chevy suppliers. Lets face it, it's NOT like there isn't a blue zillion 50's thru 60's chevy suppliers out there with catalougs that u can build a complete chevy from. I get their catalougs all the time and throw them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Packards1 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I can't believe all the effort that is going into one gasket. That gasket is easily available from most of the Packard suppliers and not for a lot of money. It seems that going to someone who deals in the exact parts that are needed wasn't an option. Try Bob Stoltzfus, Max Merritt, or a bunch of other people and you will have the gasket you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 "I can't believe all the effort that is going into one gasket..."I agree entirely. But nonetheless, the long term ownership of any car (or anything else) requires constant research and analysis. I have no problem ordering from the Packard dealers. But quite often do not want to wait for the shipping if there is a perfectly good alternative available quickly. That's why i started the 55-56 X-ref thread. It befuddles me that many Packard owners seem to have somekind of psychological barrier to the concept of retro-fit parts from other cars. NO ONE will ever convince me that the well seasoned dealers are not well aware of EVERY possible such retro-fit that is available from any discount parts suppliers. To-wit: Has anyone ever wondered why Kanter does not specify any part numbers in his cataloug????? Furthermore: It's NOT like the dealers haven't had the last 50 years of experience and research to determine cross over parts from other cars. Just hate that 55-56 X-ref. Don't they???? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Packards1 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 The cross reference is great and serious owners of cars should absolutley use it. But a $ 4.00 gasket does not warrant someones time and effort. Spend that same amout of effort and time on your car. And certainely cutting one from material is way more than the cost of a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 THANKS TO ALL! for the input. 'Ron of Chicacgo' and Brian 'B.H.'were the winners here! Ron supplied the original part number and Brian reminded me about Max Merrit (Don't have a clue why I didn't think of them before, got their catalogs and have even ordered from them in the past) Max Merrit has them for $5 bucks a pop (Chevy ones I don't think are a direct bolt on, flange spread) anyway will be ordering on Monday Thanks Everyone and Happy Motoring! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Some People are Always Winners! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 What's the secret??????? Inquiring minds want to know. Hell, i couldn't win a cussing match in a cemetary at midnight even i was the only one to show up for the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CaptainBristol Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Packards1, in a comment of yours above, you mention Bob Stoltzfus as a source of Packard parts. I am not aware of Mr. Stoltzfus and would like to know more.Can you please supply contact (and any other) information for Mr. Stoltzfus? I am always on the lookout for parts suppliers.Thanks much,Mark in Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Packards1 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 He is in Marietta PA. I won't put his phone number here. He is in the club directory or you can get his number from directoty assistance. He is a good guy with a lot of Packard parts. he will be at the national meet this summer in Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Joel is being a gentleman. Bob S. and Max M. are part specialists in Packard parts, but so is Joel. I've had successful purchases from all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigKev Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 I thought Olsen Gaskets in WA supplies the gaskets to Kanter. But I could be wrong. They may have them a tad cheap as you are going direct to the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted April 2, 2006 Author Share Posted April 2, 2006 Olsen Gaskets? Never heard of them, looks like I learn something new. Telephone number or web page? PM me Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattpac Posted April 2, 2006 Author Share Posted April 2, 2006 FOUND THEM! Thanks anyhooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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