Guest Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 I have a 70'Cutlass and I am wanting to know if there is a difference in Hurst 4spd shifters for console and non-console cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Wyatt Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 I have only seen one non console 70 up close and it used the same shifter as my 70 with console. Both had the offset stick that brought the handle up closer to center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 A guy who has one for sale said that the non-console shifter handle was different thatn the one for a console - I need one for a console but the way he talks it won't work - hate to spend the money on something that might not work -thanks for your help though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Wyatt Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 The unfortunate part of the 70 OEM Hurst shifter was the fixed stick. By that I mean, it was not bolted on like the regular Hurst shifters you got at the speed shop. You can swap handles on those to fit whatever. What you may want to do, is go to your local Olds dealer and look up the part numbers in their old books and see what they say. My original handle is going to end up bolted to the after market Hurst in the car now, with some creative machining. Only if someone gets way too nosey will they figure it out. And at that point they'll have to figure out how to remove my foot from their back side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Dave, Thanks for the info - I'll see if Olds can help me out with part #'s - that's if they still have the books - lol - take care Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 The 1974 edition parts book says:1970-72 F85 synchromesh trans w/ console, p/n 405534 lever, floor shift (Hurst- stamped "H") (less knob)1970-72 F85 S.T. except console or 1971 4400 HD trans, p/n 406713 lever, floor shift (Hurst-stamped "H") (less knob)So it appears there is some difference. Differences also show up between console and non-console in 1964-69 and 1973 applications, and between F85/Cutlass and 442 1965-69, difference there being 442 shifters had "442" stamped into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 thanks for the info - so I guess I need to be looking for part # 405534? Is the F-85 part # the same as the Cutlass S part # for the Hurst shifter w/ console? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Yes- F85 is generic Olds-speak for 1961-77 A-body car. Anytime you see a reference to F85 in factory publications, Cutlass and all variations come under it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Wyatt Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Good info indeed. I'll file that away for future reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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