Guest Steeleco Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Anybody ever used this? It is on the Cars Old Buick Parts web site.<form method="post" name="cart_quantity" action="http://www.oldbuickparts.com/catalog/up-to-1960-buick-group-heater-ac-ac-refrigerant-12r-134-compatible-p-18371.html?action=add_product">[TABLE]<tbody>[TR][TD][TABLE]<tbody>[TR][TD=class: pageHeading]A/C Refrigerant R-12/R-134 Compatible[ACR360][/TD][TD=class: pageHeading]$10.00[/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE][/TD][/TR][TR][TD][/TD][/TR][TR][TD=class: main][TABLE=align: right]<tbody>[TR][TD=class: smallText, align: center]Click to enlarge <noscript></noscript>[/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE]Replaces 134A & 12No Retrofit NecessaryNo Oil Change RequiredWorks with all oilsDirect Drop In Up to 32% more efficientRequires less energy to compressLess wear / Extends Compressor LifeColder than Freon12 oz. equiv.Zero Ozone Depletion Potential[/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE]</form> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Here is the active refriferant: Alkane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDon't swallow it.Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob J Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'd stick with standard R-12. IMO, nothing cools like R-12 in these older style HVAC systems. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Especially now that R-12 is no where near as expensive as it once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 You can still recharge a system with R-12 for under $100. It would be illogical (see Spock to your left) to convert on a collector car. An '86 to '92 Riviera would be the lowest value car in our group to service. Newer has 134a. A good example should be worth $6,000 minimum. With limited driving and an older compressor shaft seal a charge per year would be the average. Anything worse and you have a system ready for complete failure.Once we get into Rivieras from '76 back to '63 the value of the car goes up exponentially. What's $100 a year; the equivalent of a tank of gas?The correct stuff is the correct stuff. Superheat characteristics cool your compressor and protect it from premature failure, miscibility of oil assures proper lubrication and oil return, the latent heat of vaporization for R-12 is about 15% greater than substitutes. If you open a 1956 refrigeration text book from 1956 you will find most of today's "modern" replacements listed. They were not used because they were second, third or greater choice. They still are at least a second choice.It is your job to maintain a hermetic system, properly recover, and reclaim used refrigerants to keep them from escaping into the atmosphere, de minimis. The right stuff is great if you follow procedures.Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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