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  1. Is Frank Millers car the same as Joel Naive? In looking through dads Mercer Associates Roster from 1962 it shows Frank Miller Glendale, Ohio the owner of type 35-K ser # 1186. Fast forward to a roster from 1993 it shows #1186 belonging to Joel Naive ex Ed King ex Frank Miller. Just for the record, my car # 2011, belonged to Jim Proffit ex Dick Teague ex Bill & Doug Magee ex H.Morris Borrows ex J.E.Miller ex Tom Carstens. It is sad that all but one of the '13 & '14 runabouts were cut up into raceabouts. Having lived with both, the runabout has the creature comforts that along with the smooth transmission makes it a delight to drive. I have to add that Roger Ellis is still a hero to me in that he succeeded in building the 35-F when most thought it a folly. Credits also go to Fred Hoch who built parts that "they" said couldn't be built. I first met both in dads garage counting ring & pinion teeth on dads raceabout figuring out a gear ratio for the racer. Still a fond memory.

    Karl

  2. Ivan, Bob and Wayne,

    I loved reading the ancedotes of your Mercer experiences. The car truely is a joy to drive as Laura and I tour as often as possible. I will try to send a picture of the '13 runabout of Joel Naives that Ken Stauffer gave me from 1996. In it you can see the different body lines particularly the rear fenders and the narrower body. The chassis is on a 108" vs the '14's 118" WB. The '14 has the brake and shifter inside the body work. I hope you will see a picture I scored off Ebay of the '53 Glidden tour showing Mr. J E Miller Jr. and (Mrs.?) wearing the exact same clothes he did in the '56 tour ! Pretty funny. Two similar automobiles yet two distinctly different cars. Part of the Mercer Magic.

    1913 Mercer

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    1914 Mercer

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    Thank You and Hope to see you soon.

    Karl Darby

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  3. Dear Mercerphiles,

    Stan Smith has been trying to update the roster concerning the

    whereabouts of certain Mercers. Perhaps anybody on this list can

    help locate these cars. I have copied the questions as sent to me

    and are as follows:

    I do have a question or two relative to my updating the MERCER

    ASSOCIATES ROSTER:

    As usual I"ve had no luck with the Auction Houses in letting me know

    who

    bought a Mercer.

    Do you know the names ( and at least the State they live in) of new

    owners for these T-Heads?

    1. The Wingard/Chandler 1911 Raceabout S/N 478

    2. The green 1913 ex-Hempel Raceabout S/N 1330

    3 .and who has the 1912 Touring ( no S/N, but M/N 584 ) that I have

    as

    owned by a Robinson of Calif.

    It was once owned by Dr. Shafer of Calif ( 1950 and 60's) and

    then

    went to Harrah's Collection.

    I hope it still exists and wasn't converted to a Raceabout.

    4. Speaking of possible conversions, do you have the name of the gent

    who bought the Naive Runabout S/N 1186 ?

    John R introduced me to him at Hershey a year or so ago...I lost

    track of his name - he lives in the Midwest?

    Thanks for your input.

    Karl Darby

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