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Hello all...
I haven't posted much for awhile, hope you all have been well.
We finally got our Paddy Wagon, the 1927 Dodge Brothers Four Screen, back from the County Garage. The fixed it again. Took awhile, but finally found a mechanic that was willing to work on it. Most of our Mechanics just don't know or remember how to work on these old ones. If they can't plug it into a computer, they just don't know what to do.
Anyway, I took it to a local show and while I was there, the Driver's side door, Door Handle took a dive. The latch won't come out and secure the door (I've got a Bungee cord holding the door closed.
Can any one refer me to someone that might have a replacement for the assembly. I'm not sure if I have to replace the whole thing or just the internals. I hoping that, maybe it's just a spring that need to be replaced, but I'm not sure how it works, as of yet. Just thought I would do a little research before I take it all apart. I may just wait for the off season, before I actually try to do the repair. I have too many shows/displays on my calendar.
Anyway, any help or comments would be appreciated.
Thanks, in advance.
Juan
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This is our 1927 Dodge Brother Four Screen Express / Paddy Wagon
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Hello,
Watched your video and found it very interesting. We are in the process of having to overhaul our 1927 Dodge Brother 4Screen Express. We must replace a leaky block with a new block. We have a used bock and appears to be in good shape, have pistons and rods and the crank.
I need to put together a budget for our funding. The truck is a Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department, in California. We have had it, restored back in 1987. It is used only for displays and parades and for crime prevention programs.
I need an approximate budget to get the funding for the overhaul. Can you tell me, or give me a good (high) estimate on the cost to rebuild this block. I would really be appreciative.
Thank you.
You can message me at juantejeda@yahoo.com.
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Hello,
Did not mean to upset anyone. This truck does in fact belong to the County of Santa Barbara, it is part of the fleet of police vehicles, but it was a project that, from it's conception, funded with 100% donations from the public sector back in 1987-88. The vehicle was an abandon vehicle destined for the wrecking yard when I found it and it was a compete rust bucket. I saw a future in it as a vehicle to be used for Crime Prevention programs within the county. I approached our then Sheriff with my idea and after doing a little research I found that the county actually used these vehicles in the 20's as a Jail / Paddy Wagon. With the Sheriff on board we approached the County Board of Supervisors and they approved the project, with the understanding that it would be done, but no budget would be approved and would have to be done with donations. I too on the project and collected sufficient funds and with the help of the California Men's Colony in San Luis Obispo's, Vocational Education Department the restoration was done and competed. The county supports the program by maintaining the vehicle as a fleet vehicle, but only with routine maintenance and has done so over the last 29 years.
If you read my entry, I am not asking for donations, I was just explaining what we are doing and what my needs are, and I will reiterate, I need to put a budget together to submit for funding of this new project to keep the Paddy Wagon alive. Just need some input on what the costs will be so that I can submit a budget for funding.
I happen to agree with you, and have always felt that the County and the Sheriff's Department should fund the program, but with governmental budgets the way they are, these programs are all but gone and without assistance from the outside they will be lost. Again, I'm not asking for donations, I will take what ever I can muster up, but I'm not asking anyone here to donate money. I will tell you that my very first donation came from the Horseless Carriage Club of America, back in 1987.
I hope you understand where we are. Just trying to hold on to this wonderful vehicle that has brought so much good will to our law enforcement agency over the last 29 years.
Thank you.
Juan
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Hello all, it's been a while since my last entry and I need some help with our 1927 Dodge Brothers 4 Screen Express (Paddy Wagon). I have a crak that has come back to haunt us and we need to rebuild an existing block that I invested in years ago (in 1989 or so), during the restoration of our truck. The block came with some misc parts, like pistons, crank and others, but we have never had to really see if it was serviceable. I purchased the block from a, then reliable Dodge Brother Parts distributor out here in California, some of you may remember him, Roy Belcher. Roy passed away years back. Anyway, he looked the block over and assured me that the block was in good shape. Well it's time for us to find out and we want to rebuild that block.
Here is my problem. I need to come up with a budget for our Sheriff, so he can try and get funding for it. I have started a Go Fund Me account with the hope that I can raise the money to rebuild this block. The Sheriff has a possible source, but I need to find out what it's going to cost and I have no one out here that I can get that info from. Our truck was restored in back in the 80's, bet 1987 and 1990, buy the California Men's Colony in San Luis Obispo. It was done by the inmates in their Vocational Education Department, but that program no longer exists, because of funding. The whole project has been funded, over the years with 100% donations from the community. The truck is a Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department fleet vehicle, registered to Santa Barbara County. The County Garage maintains it for the routine service needs, but there is no budget for major type repairs and over the years I have had to continue to get donations when something comes up. I have been involved with this program from day one, as it was my project. We are in ur 29th year and I continue to take care of the Paddy Wagon, in my retirement.
Anyway. what I need is to put together a good budget to restore/overhaul the existing block that I purchased. A complete list of parts and costs will be need for my presentation. The Sheriff has agreed to get the funding and has said that the "Wagon will ride again."
If anyone can help me with putting this budget together, I would really be grateful. The engine is the standard 1927 4 cal, not the Fast Four. I have attached a few pictures and there should be more pictures of the Paddy Wagon in the Picture File of the Forum.
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I'm looking for a, good. replacement distributor for our 1927 Dodge Brothers 4Screen, 6v system, 4 cal (not the fast four). Or a repair kit, we seem to have a bushing problem and need to either replace and or repair the existing distributor, or if anyone has knowledge of a MSD system that could replace our distributor, points and condenser. Please get back to me.
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Can't help, but I'm looking for info on a MSD for our 1927 Dodge Brothers 4Screen, has a 4 cal, 6v system. Does anyone know if they make one?
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Thats good. I bought the MC and not to worry, it's not going to be a rider. My plan is to make it strictly a show Motor. I will drive from the trailer to where the display will be and thats about it. Maybe around the block once in a while just to keep it running, but not on any big rides. A parade once in awhile but that's it. Seems it may be an LAPD Motor, that will be my first goal. I'm doing some research now. Picked it up tonight, runs kinda rough, but esthetically it looks good. All I need is all the equipment that was removed. Front Red and Blue lights, flashing/rotating lights, blues lights rear, siren, and radio box and antenna. City seal and POLICE decal. Going to take it to a mechanic and have it all checked out. First I need to buy a new battery, hopefully thats all. lights are kinda dim, don't know if thats the battery or maybe the generator. Well, you take it easy and keep in touch!
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OK, EXBCMC, when do we see you car(s)? So, how you doing Craig> Glad to see that you finally made it on here. Think you will really learn to like these guys, they have a lot of knowledge and don't mind sharing. They laugh with you, not at you. So don't be afraid to ask as question. By the way, I'm may be starting a new project. No for sure yet as I haven't worked out the details on the project itself, but here is a picture of what I'm trying to get.
Well I tried to upload the picture, but as luck would have it I can't get it to load.....anyway, it's a 94 Kawasaki 1000P, former Police Motor, think it was LAPD's. I am looking into that. Want to restore it to LAPD Motor. We will see what happens. Have fun!
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And the "Tax by the mile" will spread..... to all of "Amerika".
Just remember that while 1975 and newer are exempt currently from emission checks that all cars from 1966 to 1975 ( have exhaust emission controls ) and according to law a owner must maintain those systems. If you read California smog control laws you will also notice that the state can pull those vehicles back into smog check at any time if the state deems it necessary. Newly passed California Cap and Trade law will no doubt sometime in the future bring those cars back into smog check. One of the reasons this will happen is the state is scaring away businesses in record number. The company I worked for ( major auto manufacturer ) left Ca. in 2006 and I understand Toyota Motor is in the process of moving it's headquarters to Texas and there are literally hundreds of companies that have left the state. All this means is California will be looking for alternative place to reach it's carbon offset requirement. As in the past the state has always picked on the auto owner because there is apathy in the ranks and little struggle passing laws against the aware motorist. The most recent example of the state and it's appetite for motorist money is the new mileage tax law that was passed a few weeks ago, whereby a GPS will track your mileage or you will have to go to DMV once a year for mileage check verification in addition to the already gas tax fee on a gallon of gas.The negatives in California are plenty and growing every day. All this with a state legislature that can pass laws with not a 2/3 majority like it used to be, but with a simple 51% majority. It's no wonder people from outside California ( especially the ones that ran away from that state ) call it the California Socialist Republic.
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I have a dozen or so alternators, new and re-built, some still in boxes. Alternators are original equipment and are for 60's and 70's era vehicles. I'm not in the business for car parts, but a retired friend of mine used to be a dealer of some car parts, such as era Air Cleaners for carburetors (some still in boxes) and oil filters (some still in boxes).
Just want to offer to anyone that might need an alternator for their classic GM, Ford or MoPar a chance to get one of these alternators. Don't have them for all models, but if you send me the part number of what you need I can try and match them to what I have. I'm setting the price at whatever you feel you want to donate to our cause, plus the delivery costs.
I am a retired Deputy Sheriff with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department, California and am the caretaker of our 1927 Dodge Brothers Paddy Wagon. The wagon restoration was completed back in 1988 and has been with us since that time. It was restored on 100% donations and continues to be kept running with donations as the county will not provide a budget. So any purchase will go to that cause.
I have attached some pictures of some of the alternators and a picture of our Paddy Wagon.
Any questions or requests, please email me at juantejeda@yahoo.com or here at AACA. I will try to get back to you ASAP.
Juan
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You still looking for parts? Try Restoration Supply Company in California. If they don't have it they will usually find it for you. Prices seem to be so so. Check them out. they have a web page. Their email address for info is, info@restorationstuff.com
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I finally heard from Myer's, they have the Thermometer unit, it's the thermometer and the Brass part that attaches to the Dog Bone, but it only works if you have a re-Pop, won't work on an original cap. It cost $30 plus tax and shipping, comes out to about $35. It's in their Catalog under Accessories. I went ahead and ordered it. Thanks for the info you found.
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I finally heard from Myer's, they have the Thermometer unit, it's the thermometer and the Brass part that attaches to the Dog Bone, but it only works if you have a re-Pop, won't work on an original cap. It cost $30 plus tax and shipping, comes out to about $35. It's in their Catalog under Accessories. I went ahead and ordered it. Thanks for the info you found.
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Have you tried soaking in Cooa Cola? That seems to break-up just about anything..... Oh, by the way, have you found a replacement thermometer for your motor meter?
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Anyone have a contact for purchasing new thermometers for the motometer.
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Does anyone know where or who sells thermometers for the motometers? I need one.
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Restoration Supply Company<BR>2060 Palisade Drive<BR>Reno, NV 89509<BR>Pnone 775-825-5663<BR>Fax 775-825-9330<BR>e-mail restoration@rsc.reno.nv.us
This is no longer a good email address....Does anyone have an updated address?
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Hello! I have a 27 Dodge Fourscreen with a Dog Bone Moto Meter and the thermometer has broken. What I need is a new thermometer. Does anyone know where or who sells the thermometer? I know that the Moto Meters are available at Romars and Myer's but my Motor Meter is in great shape, just the thermometer is broken. I figure that there is a source for the thermometer, just haven't been able to find it on the internet and Romars and Myer's have not responded.
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Take a look at Cooley Blue, Imron by Dupont. Looks really good on out 1927 Dodge Brothers Four Screen.
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Trial and error. I've learned when my 26 DB Coupe is cold, the spark advance needs to all the way up and the throttle at about 2 o'clock. After it is warm, it doesn't matter wher gnd apart advance is but if I pull it all the way down when I'm idling it will run rough....you can actually feral the car vibrating more. I really can't tell much affect of the advance or the throttle when I'm driving.
Anyway, just keep experimenting under various loads....it gives a good excuse to go driving.
Thanks, that's what I've been doing, every chance I get. I was just hoping that there might be some good info on how it works. So it sounds like bringing th lever all the way down is the "Retard" side. When you push it the opposite way (Up), it will advance the Spark and I should do the adjustments when the engine is warm. Got a Xmas parade coming up and I hate to go down the street back firing all the way.
Thanks for your help.
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Need some help on adjusting the Spark Advance.
Once I get the truck started and warmed up, as I start driving it, it seems to miss a little and then, does a little back firing out of the muffler. How do I adjust for this, do I advance or retard the spark and should I make the adjustment slowly, about a 1/4" at a time, or less?
I seem to loose power when I', going up and incline, the higher the incline the worse it is.
Anyone have some ideas?
Thanks
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Yes it does help, a little. Our truck is a smaller truck, I believe it is a 1/4 ton, maybe 1/2 ton. The spark control is a lever and is behind the Throttle Control lever. I am not sure is the lever should go CW or CCW for Advancing the spark. And when it is in the full CW position is that full Spark and Full CCW the Retard position? Right now it is about 1/2 inch from the full CW position and it seems to start fine and seems to running smooth, but I have not actually driven it, as of yet, so I am not sure how it actually drives in this position. Don't know how much difference the ambient temperature makes, but we are in the Central California area and temperatures are pretty mild. Usually somewhere between the low 50's and low 80's. Once the engine is running hot and in Parade conditions, should the Spark be advanced or retarded, or do you just play it by ear?
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Hello all....
Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving.
Anyway, need s little help.
We have a 28 Screenside and up until now the Distributor has been secured so that the Adance / Retard lever was not used. Well we decided to fix that and now we have it working so the Spark can be retarded or advanced and I need a quick class on the proper operation. Where should I have the lever when I start the truck? when do I know that I need to adjust, advance vs retard. Which way to I move the lever for Advance?
If someone can give me some advise on its operation I would be really grateful.
Thank you and I can be emailed at juantejeda@yahoo.com.
Door Handle for 1927 Dodge Brothers Four Screen Express
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Thanks, both of you for your input. I think it is a broken spring, just haven't had the time too take it apart, but will be doing that real soon. Any idea if the springs are available?