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43 minutes ago, wayne sheldon said:
That Chrysler "77" is a couple years later than your Chrysler. Although slanted windscreens had been common on roadsters and tourers for fully ten years then, enclosed coupes and sedans were still usually straight windshields (windscreens) with popular common lower priced cars beginning to pick up the trend about 1930. That is part of what makes your convertible coupe so interesting! The door and styling of the later Chrysler is quite different from yours, with its chromed small frameworks around the glass. Yours still has the heavier stamped steel (painted and fully a part of the lower door panel) forward window frame.
For a small local coachbuilder to alter a standard straight door frame for a slanted windscreen would be a simple task. It would require altering or replacing the window riser mechanism to support the glass without the forward upper frame to hold it straight. However even that would not have been difficult.
I sure do hope you can find out where in all the world that car has been! If only our hundred year old cars could talk and tell us all their stories! The families they carried, the adventures to which they took them!
HI wayne you are spot on with the year of the Chrysler 77 it is 1930
I have a 1931 lasalle town sedan which came out of a railway museum in america
I have lots of history with the car which I found fascinating to read bit like a window into the past
anyway I will concentrate in getting the Chrysler on the road perhaps one day I will find its history
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HI wayne thank you for your interest in my post
I realise my car is at the lower end of the spectrum so provenance is not important to me
the reason i am searching for its identity is merely my own curiosity
(part of the fun of owning a nearly 100 year old car)
as to the alteration to the windscreen slant that would be a reasonably straight forward job
but the door is in my opinion a factory stamping (no evidence of welding or body filler ect)
I have shown a photo of a Chrysler 77 convertible with slant screen and similar door to mine
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9 hours ago, viv w said:
Catching up on your post and it is interesting that most of the countries with RHD cars were from the British commonwealth where they used miles per hour back in those days.
I've had several Chryslers here in Zimbabwe, and seen many in South Africa, all RHD, and all of them the speedo has been in Miles per hour.
I also have a 1927 Nash advanced 6, and interestingly in the original parts book for the car, it lists the speedo for RHD cars was in KPH. I can't understand why Nash would have fitted a KPH speedo for RHD export cars, it does not make sense, when most countries with RHD cars had speed limits in MPH. Sadly the original guages for my Nash were stolen before I got the car, so I cannot confirm if it did in fact have a KPH speedo originally. I have aquired correct MPH speedo for my Nash and also got lucky on EBAY and also found a KPH one.
Hi viv w. the problem I have with my cars history is mainly the fact it is right hand drive and kph
the two facts don't seem to ad up other than Uruguay ( Montevideo ) if that is what the wording on the screen
translates as. I Believe the writing on the screen was from the country which exported to the uk over 20 years ago I realise its not a high end car but it origen intrigues me (but the parts availability are a challenge)
do you know if the 1928 model 72 convertible coupe a one or two year only build
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On 3/8/2023 at 2:32 PM, Gunsmoke said:
Thanks for clarifying 31 LaSalle on the folding top, I did note rear glass was still snapped in place and standing vertical, preventing top from lowering further. Top looks to be very high quality job. Perhaps the customizer decided not to have lead bow fold in order to reduce the amount of layers when folded and enable overall result to be lower when folded. Good luck with your continuing efforts to research more about the car.
picture of roof fully down and in its cover on it still looks lumpy but it is what it is
And as george dammann 70 years of Chrysler says in his book a rather lumpy top when folded
he was not wrong there
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Lovely car color suit it enjoy
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Is there an adaptor to enable the use of modern 14mm spark plugs instead of champion C4
not sure of the C4 tread size
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Does anyone know the equivalent to champion C4 with the same thread size
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I think it is a 106 inch wheelbase but don't know the overall length
TRY posting your question in the Chrysler section further down the page
you might get more response good luck enjoy the car
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They look like a smaller version of my hub covers on my 1931 lasalle
mine measure approx 9 inch with a 5 inch bore
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On 2/24/2023 at 2:03 PM, leomara said:
Hi Leomara glad to see you sorted your lock problem
while looking at this photo it has solved a puzzle for me my Chrysler 72 is the same set up
the lock is missing on mine I was looking for a t handle as I thought the handle on mine was the wrong one
but looking at yours its the same so i am looking for a lock like yours
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20 hours ago, Aussi John 1 said:
Hi Leif
I don't know all the countries that are or were RHD, other than the ones I mentioned, Japan, at least one of the South American countries and there would be others.
I don't know much about which countries are metric, most of Europe if not all, certainly France Germany Italy, etc. Australia has been metric since the seventies.
I don't know if any county was both metric and RHD, other than Sweden, which converted to LHD in 1967, they have use the metric system since 1876.
The top will look a lot better when fully folded, especially when the top envelope is on. see photo of my Brooklands Studebaker
It's a shame we didn't change to LHD in 1945, but our steering wheel is on the right side, not the wrong side.
My car is a 1929 Studebaker President Eight, the wheelbase is 125 inches, the rear axle ratio is 3.47-1, 3.37 cubic inch I straight eight side valve engine. I have recently fitted Stahl radials, big differences, no more tram tracking
I believe that your car is original, as built by the local body builder. I have a 1935 Studebaker Commander Eight with an original Australian custom built body., see pics. I'm in Sydney, where in the UK are you located.
Hi Aussi John that sure is a stunning car you have there
what wheelbase is your brooklands is it longer than the president
I am located in Lincolnshire uk
John [ 31 LaSalle ]
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9 minutes ago, leomara said:
The head on my 1928 Model 72 roadster does not have the Silver Dome or Red Head identification, must have not been OEM...
Hi leomara my model 72 convertible coupe does not have silver dome or red head identification either
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13 hours ago, Aussi John 1 said:
Hi Leif
I don't know all the countries that are or were RHD, other than the ones I mentioned, Japan, at least one of the South American countries and there would be others.
I don't know much about which countries are metric, most of Europe if not all, certainly France Germany Italy, etc. Australia has been metric since the seventies.
I don't know if any county was both metric and RHD, other than Sweden, which converted to LHD in 1967, they have use the metric system since 1876.
The top will look a lot better when fully folded, especially when the top envelope is on. see photos of my Brooklands Studebaker.
13 hours ago, Aussi John 1 said:Hi Leif
I don't know all the countries that are or were RHD, other than the ones I mentioned, Japan, at least one of the South American countries and there would be others.
I don't know much about which countries are metric, most of Europe if not all, certainly France Germany Italy, etc. Australia has been metric since the seventies.
I don't know if any county was both metric and RHD, other than Sweden, which converted to LHD in 1967, they have use the metric system since 1876.
The top will look a lot better when fully folded, especially when the top envelope is on. see photos of my Brooklands Studebaker.
HI Aussi John 1
you are correct about the top of my car when it is correctly folded and in its envelop it looks not perfect but presentable , with help from others on this site if the writing on screen is MONENEGRO in uruguay
they drove on the left side of the road until 1945 when they changed to right side of road
also speed in km as my car
love your car what is the wheel base
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5 hours ago, Gunsmoke said:
Interesting well made top. However the decision to not "fold" the front bow leaves the rather awkward appearance in open mode and no way to improve it. Must catch a lot of air when at speed with top down/open, and not any easy way to strap it down. rumble seat passengers would not be having a pleasant experience. I'm speculating a good shop could hinge the sides of that bow to fold and lock like originals, but top fabric might not accommodate such "folding". Were it my car, I would be spending some time assessing how to make it fold correctly, but might not be an easy or inexpensive job.
The nature of this folding top suggests to me the car may have been a custom or prototype job for a client, who perhaps never planned to drive with top down, wanted more of a sport coupe look.
The photos I posted of my car with the top down are a bit misleading as the top is not fully folded
I cant get to the car for a while but when Ido I will take a photo showing the top fully folded
which looks a lot better. but as George Dammann states in his book 70 years of Chrysler
It looks rather lumpy when folded
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On 3/5/2023 at 8:35 PM, Gunsmoke said:
Does the about 28" long side piece above door opening fold in dead center, or is one leg (like rear piece) longer than the other? (I cannot see a joint?) I assume in original tops as shown on green car above, this piece folded in half to stack at rear when in open top configuration. If front piece of this 28" part is shorter than rear piece, that may give a hint that top was foreshortened 4"-5" to accommodate a later slanted windscreen alteration. Quite a mystery, we can assume the new wood carcass (especially door posts) was made using original pieces as patterns. The door posts and their various shapes and the dash cross member meeting point brackets should also reveal something, such as what do the 4 extra bolts fasten to?
HI Gunsmoke thank you for your input which I greatly appreciate
I think the four bolts fasten on the cowl
as to the slanted windscreen I think the door posts could have been done by a skilled body shop
but the door skin slant looks to be a factory pressing no sign of welding or alteration
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4 hours ago, AURktman said:
Maybe Montevideo?
Thank you that could be a possibility
Uruguay drove on the left side of the road until 1945 then changed to the right
also they used km like my car
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I am wanting to change the oil in my 72s gearbox
what grade of oil do I us
Thanks in advance
John
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1 hour ago, TAKerry said:
Im confused as to why you think the writing on the windshield has relevance to the country of origin? The car is close to a hundred years old, I highly doubt that writing corresponds with the age of the vehicle. May have been something an auction house installed, a repair shop, a reposession, etc, etc.
HI TAKerry I am just guessing as to the writing being the name of country of origin
all I know is the writing was on screen when imported into uk by previous owner
I purchased the car from the deceased estate who had spent the last 25 years doing a nut and bolt rebuild
99.9% completed. his family have no clue as to its history
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2 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said:
My only guess (due to the 3rd and 4th letters) would be Montenegro, but I doubt very seriously that is a match.
However the 4th letter looks like an L to me...
No other country starting with M is even close that I've come across which makes me wonder if its a location or a business like an auction house or something along those lines.
Countries That Start With The Letter M - WorldAtlas
What makes you think it would be a country, do you have paperwork that makes you think that?
HI Dodge Panel thanks for your guess Montenegro was my guess
I have no paperwork relating to its country of origin
I doubt its montenegro but it must be a country that has right hand drive and odometer in km
I had pinned my hopes on chrysler records but they have no records for 1928
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On 2/19/2023 at 2:57 PM, 30DodgePanel said:
could anybody have a guess at what it says on the screen as i believe it is the name of the country it was exported from
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my january 1928 model 72 has brake light switch as std
although its right hand drive and master cylinder has four bolt hole mount to frame not three like yours
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when did manufacturers start using sealed beam lights
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3 hours ago, Gunsmoke said:
Appears to me that at some point an owner/buyer/custom body shop, decided the straight up windshield on the 1928 Chrysler 72 product should be slanted, which became "de rigour" in early 30's. Not an awfully difficult job for an experienced shop, just mean cutting off post and stanchion, modifying both pieces to suit angle desired, and re-welding in place. Folding top is then foreshortened to suit, another easy job. Have you tried to find where the piano hinged windscreen may have come from? Does it match original 28 Chrysler in detail? As shown in this red/white car, doors originally had 4 hinges including a top one which cannot be the case for a slanted door post. Clearly the difficult part is the junction where slanted windshield post and 3rd hinge meet, and a detail a proper manufacturer would have avoided, suggesting this is custom work. Not sure windshield writing will help much since it was likely put there 40+ years after alterations were done. Have you removed any of the inner panelling and taken photos of what you see? That should tell you how the modifications were carried out. The second green model 72 below (at least is was listed as a 72?) appears to be cobbled together, has a circa 1930 Dodge hood based on raised oval like louver pattern and different cowl (with vent door)? Over the years many cars got modified.
HI Gunsmoke Thanks for your reply Which I agree with to a point
But to alter the rake of screen would also include alteration to door frames
also chrome window surround plus glass the screen is standard Chrysler
I will probably never no who altered it or when
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Chrysler 72 spark plugs
in Chrysler Products - General
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I have a1928 Chrysler 72 it is presently fitted with champion C4 spark plugs
which need replacing I have managed to get a set of champion C5 spark plugs
would these be compatible with my car
Thank you